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On May 25 2018 21:38 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 21:25 Rels wrote:
I don't really think you agreeing with rayn makes you anything, I feel it was a little bit too easy but it's true you like to sheep as town.
I don't like the second thing though. You've said you followed the fight closely, but you missed 2 things in it, that were linked to stuff you had commented before:
- you think noone should attack HF for his opening post. GB attacks HF for his opening post. You miss it.
- you understand rayn's post about HF missing a bad post. You think you know what is that bad post. GB says what is the bad post, and rayn confirms it. You miss it. Again I did miss that post you showed about gb's comment on rayn's thing on hf but I followed the fight pretty good just didn't see that post in particular >.<
Yeah that's my point, you missed 2 posts in a fight you said you've closely followed. p:
On May 25 2018 21:38 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 21:27 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 21:25 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 21:16 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:59 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 20:55 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:45 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and saw that HF went from calling me scum into only a very slight town in a spam of a few minutes? Did get a question: On May 25 2018 20:16 Rels wrote:LS I have two questions for you. On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go. Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though. Anyways just got home now and can talk more not on my phone at least :D I don't know if I believe you when you say you see his point. Can you explain his point to me ? What post is rayn talking about ? On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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"I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total".
:D
2 mafia down boyzz. If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff. If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time. That's where I come from. In this post, GB is calling HF scum for the reasonning you were gonna arguee with rayn on the post above: On May 25 2018 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh I thought you were going to call him scum for his opening and was going to argue he done similar entrances before as town but ya I see your point though.:D But when GB does it, you don't seem to react ? Why ? Rayn's point was he thought a town HF would of called out rayn for his post here(assuming correct quote): On May 25 2018 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well, we need to lynch ppl in this order:
11. Jealous
9. fuba
6. LightningStrike
2. GlowingBear
4. darthfoley
5. Holyflare
7. Koshi
12. Eversince
3. Grackaroni
10. Rels
newbie is excused ofc. Thus I can see where he coming from because HF didn't touch that post at all but I didn't think he was scum for it. I'll be honest I did miss that quote entirely by GB but I did follow the rest of the fight much closer though >.< do you think this rayn list post is scummy ? I thought it was a joke post tbh that's all. OK. I think it's a little bit weird. rayn makes this list post. You dismiss it as a joke and you don't comment on it. HF also doesn't comment on it. But when rayn arguees HF wouldn't have missed the post, you agree. IDK, seems too easy. Furthermore, it's wasn't the post rayn was talking about. GB indicated the post rayn was talking about. Apparently you missed it, even though you've said you followed rayn / GB fight quite closely. And you also missed GB's comment about HF's entrance during that fight. On May 25 2018 20:59 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 20:56 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I will be a bit careful on Rel's as I know he can have a good scum game and did kind of break a town meta of his a while ago regarding his entrance style. ? What meta did I break ? The delayed entrance into doing stuff when we were scum together. But I didn't have a delayed entrance this game, so I don't see your point ? I didn't agree on it??? I just said I can see where rayn was coming from >.<. I just noting to be careful with you and yes it was a bit delayed as waited till I went to sleep when you posted which is about roughly how long it takes for you to enter a game no a days from my memory.. OK I can see that. Game started while I was sleeping, so no. It's usual D1 that I wait for the last 24 hours to post, 'cause it's not fun for me playing when there is very little info. That's not the case this game, in big part 'cause I promised rayn to actually play D1. Fair enough anything else you want to talk about?
nope p: and you ?
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On May 25 2018 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:03 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2018 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where was i arguing about the read on you? because i completely missed his read on you in the first place... Oh it sounded like you two were aruging about his read on me lol. CXVNXCVNUIDH SJDASJDCNMC DD this rage is townie :p rayn, the pictures are awesome and pretty understandable That is not the problem. The problem is i can't tell reasoning or even how strongly he feels about the stuff he comments on. You can never add that to pictures and it is a crucial element of this game. His posts basically are "this happened and i think it means X". It doesnt really say anything.
I see your point, but his pictures are just too funny. Just treat it as Chezinu roleplaying or something like that.
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On May 25 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
I dont believe Rels attacks obvious town GB for talki g about LS but vote grack. But then when asled about the post says the GB logic was "not bad".
Rels is pretending to do things.
Mafia pretends to do things.
Rels is mafia.
I thought it's weird he voted Grack in that post, and I thought the LS logic was not bad, at the same time. That's it.
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On May 25 2018 22:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rayn's progression is towny. He goes from calling me mafia for shit reasons (that I didn't call out his post...? Hyper aware) to then calling out gb for also calling me mafia but he doesn't actually weigh up on gb's alignment and instead just attacks gb for an argument that is basically the same thing as his (at least he thought it was so why on earth was he initially attacking it?).
Then he votes jealous and gets mad and talks in codes for absolutely no reason. Looks like his pushes flopped and he's just clutching at straws for a reason to do not much imo.
Don't agree. I don't think the first part makes rayn anything. And for the code part, I think it's absolutely possible that rayn get annoyed and "fight back". For example, he got modkilled to prove a point in Resistance V, where he used the exact wording of BH to make a post that got him modkilled, then tried to show how BH was an hypocrit. The first part is definitely mafia perspective because he doesn't care about answers he's just spamming up shit basically. He THINKS gb said the same thing as him so why on earth did he pick on it in the first place?
I think he thought GB was parrotting him while pretending not to be. Don't have time to check before tonight though.
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On May 25 2018 22:58 byj wrote:
Hiya! So am I right to assume we all have no night actions and have to find Mafia through talking/ voting patterns? I voted No Lynch in case I forget, but I don't trust any of you enough to follow on a lynch~
Hello! Is this your first game?
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On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now.
I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything.
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On May 26 2018 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:03 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2018 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where was i arguing about the read on you? because i completely missed his read on you in the first place... Oh it sounded like you two were aruging about his read on me lol. CXVNXCVNUIDH SJDASJDCNMC DD this rage is townie :p rayn, the pictures are awesome and pretty understandable Why is that townie? It looks forced to me.
It just fits with how rayn works, feeling like another player is not playing the game fairly, and threatening the ruin the game if he doesn't stop
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rayn talk to me when you're there
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On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke u Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now. I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything. Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.<
I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game.
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On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am here.
good.
Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything.
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On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke u On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now. I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything. Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.< I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game. Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game.
yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again.
I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town.
But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything.
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On May 26 2018 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there I am here. good. Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything. Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home. But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm.
k. I think Jealous' stubborness makes him likely town actually. I don't think scum would angry the town for no gain. It's not like he's hiding behind his drawings to not say anything.
Will wait for the HF stuff
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On May 26 2018 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke u On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now. I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything. Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.< I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game. Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game. yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again. I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town. But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything. Only with the right partner(s) I could break my own meta. https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Arya321&page=7That part of my filter will help I think you to give you a better clue.
I don't think you making some posts about "I would like for more player to enter the game" is you breaking meta though.
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On May 26 2018 22:55 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 22:42 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there I am here. good. Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything. Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home. But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm. k. I think Jealous' stubborness makes him likely town actually. I don't think scum would angry the town for no gain. It's not like he's hiding behind his drawings to not say anything. Will wait for the HF stuff I disagree with this for two reasons: 1) Jealous probably decided to play like this pre-game. 2) I don't think he's actually angering many people since his pictures actually do give reads and some idea of the reasons behind them.
Point 2 is what I'm saying above, that he's not hiding behind it to not play.
Point 1 is right though.
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On May 26 2018 23:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 23:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke u On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up! Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying. I'll go with LS being town for now. I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything. Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.< I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game. Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game. yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again. I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town. But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything. this literally says 0 words it's so many words to say absolutely nothing You've: A) Said nothing that makes LS town or mafia? B) Didn't call LS mafia. C) Explained why you didn't call him mafia. D) Said you're not mafia reading him for meta. E) Said you'd vote him if you had to.
Read in context. This whole conversation is about GB saying LS might be town for saying something, me not agreeing, and LS thinking I was saying another thing.
I think LS is scum because he's posting a lot and (1) not saying anything meaningful (2) most importantly, not paying attention to things he should. In particular, he said he followed a part of the thread very closely. This part of the thread is not very long, but he managed to miss two things in it that he shouldn't have, especially because they were linked to thinkgs he himself had done earlier.
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On May 26 2018 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
I'll be honest Rels I don't give a fuck about your read on me right now but we need to work together. I thinking maybe 1-2 active scum with 1 afk scum because honestly town is a mess. Maybe I might be wrong on rayn but I doubt it. I know HF could do all that stuff as scum which is why i reserving my judgement on him. Do you think HF is town or scum atm Rels? Knowing his alignment might be the key here.
I have no idea what alignement HF is.
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On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null
This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.
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On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post.
what did you think of that post ?
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I'm not convinced by this HF case. I've always found the first part very flimsy - HF not reacting to a bait post. Then I don't think the following is true - HF was super laid back too a few games ago where I was convinced he was scum and got him lynched.
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I think DF is the best lynch.
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