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On April 12 2018 14:26 Calix wrote:
ES and Damdred will probably vote me so I am very likely just dead here. People seriously need to give thought to the insane amount of ES defence compared to people who are actually defending me (AKA nobody). And think about why that might be the case.
Anyway I am off. Not claiming role because if I get lynched over scummy AF Eversince then I played bad and deserve lynch, anyway.
Break a leg :p
I will never believe this wasn't a blue soft.
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On April 14 2018 06:34 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely amazing wall of text that had a completely nothing conclusion on the two checks. Yes, I've only skimmed the thread. Actual filtering will happen tomorrow. Because it is half ten and I have not even had dinner yet.
You've only skimmed the thread but pretty much weighed in on everything that wasn't relevant. How about where you stand with the claims off the top of your head. Snap judgement.
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There's framer, miller etc. I think lynching outside the claims isn't bad at all.
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Especially when calix softed blue (at least in my mind) to survive a lynch.
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On April 14 2018 06:54 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
There's framer, miller etc. I think lynching outside the claims isn't bad at all. Statistically speaking, the odds of this affecting results are extremely low so using that as an excuse is weak as fuck.
Why is it weak? If there's a framer rayn isn't a bad frame n1 or me n2. Miller is statistically low odds but not unheard of at all. Just because something in a game is improbable doesn't make it bad in the slightest. It's worse to blindly follow probability.
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On April 14 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 06:54 Calix wrote:On April 14 2018 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
There's framer, miller etc. I think lynching outside the claims isn't bad at all. Statistically speaking, the odds of this affecting results are extremely low so using that as an excuse is weak as fuck. Why is it weak? If there's a framer rayn isn't a bad frame n1 or me n2. Miller is statistically low odds but not unheard of at all. Just because something in a game is improbable doesn't make it bad in the slightest. It's worse to blindly follow probability.
I also would quite like to get mafia today outside of this claim and then see what the nk looks like after that.
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Why are you saying it like I haven't evaluated anything? I've spent the whole game evaluating these people. I thought exo was mafia, he was pushed as mafia and was most likely to be mafia. I'm insanely wary of his claim. I snap voted rayn and said vivax was town at the beginning of the day because i spent the last few minutes before deadline combing vivax's mafia games and he's right, 13 pages would be a record for him as mafia. Max he had was 8 day 3 in a 160 page game. When I concluded this and saw the nk I thought it was 100% rayn mafia because if vivax is town and I'm town shitting up the thread with vivax leaving me alive with him is optimal mafia play and fake voted rayn to see what would happen. Nobody reacted and exo claimed so kind of wasted my attempt but if rayn town reads me and I town read rayn and we both were wary of vivax and none of us three died then I'd always think it was rayn at this point.
Thus I couldn't really decide between the two which I trusted more. I thought exo's claims had holes but it didn't so much after I looked into it and the more I thought about the setup the more balanced it seemed. After that I remembered tubesock quoting you with a definite blue soft to not get lynched (yes, keep repeating that it wasn't, we get it). If we lynched rayn and he turned out to actually be town (like I initially thought last cycle) then I kind of thought the game would be over in my mind (sleep deprivation) and was a bit of a risk. Since you softed blue and there were three blues already it's a far better shot at lynching you and letting the blue claim resolve itself.
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^ + I liked my initial case on you.
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Also bit of theory on exo. Don't think he claims parity like that if I open the day as if I had a red check on rayn.
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When did I ever say they were both town? Now THAT is a distinct lack of reading comprehension.
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I also think it's quite likely you'll lynch me, I'll flip town and then you lynch rayn and the game could theoretically be over if any of those scenarios happened. I think it's a far far better play to find two mafia outside of the claims and let it resolve itself.
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Why am I not doing that? I've seen someone quite blatantly claim a blue role to survive a lynch and three blues claimed so I wanted to lynch mafia in you. I also baited you and pretty much the entire game with a post I made like a page or two ago that should quite easily confirm myself town but you didn't acknowledge it at all so I'm even more wary of you being mafia than you'd expect.
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Ch isn't a bad lynch after all :D?
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I have one read on vivax that's weak and did have even weaker reads on ch/rayn but I pretty much have no town reads. Maybe tube actually. Didn't talk about tube though so vivax is correct that that statement is bad.
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On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are
Ah true true
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On April 14 2018 16:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:16 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Ah true true Wtf is this shit HF? All you have been doing about ExO today is doubting his claim. Or is this some kind of joke and if it is why aren't you trying to get this dude lynched over yourself after stating blatantly false facts. Is this game some kind of truman show where I'm the protagonist or are you both mafia?
Perhaps read the discussion again.
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On April 14 2018 16:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:37 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:32 Vivax wrote:On April 14 2018 16:16 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Ah true true Wtf is this shit HF? All you have been doing about ExO today is doubting his claim. Or is this some kind of joke and if it is why aren't you trying to get this dude lynched over yourself after stating blatantly false facts. Is this game some kind of truman show where I'm the protagonist or are you both mafia? Perhaps read the discussion again. Your stuff on ExO is inconclusive. He isn't a townread you just say that parity cop is compatible with the setup which isn't even a reason to believe his claim especially since that claim is getting you lynched. CH turns it into a townread on ExO. You say that with a rayn townread and all three of staying alive it probably means rayn is mafia and CH turns it into you having a rayn townread. All of this cause otherwise it wouldn't have made any sense for him to make that read on you since your only visible townread besides those was me who is CHs primary scumread. So he's pretty much trying super hard to bend what you said to fit his version.
Yes, I agree that ch has extrapolated far too much. He's changed "he has good reasons to town read people eventually" to "he doesn't say he wants to lynch me or rayn so that's good".
Did write that I think exo wasn't likely to fake claim parity after I voted rayn and posted like I had a check though.
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I said that before that post didn't I?
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It's not bad balance and his claim wasn't THAT shady
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Amount of people that have called me town with a potential red check is incredibly high. Too high maybe.
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