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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 19:35 GMT
#1731
around to. gonna try n do some filters. if you have questions shout.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 19:58 GMT
#1739
On March 23 2018 04:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:28 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs.
i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith.

wtf is going on.


Relax, buddy. I won't vote you to save myself. I believe you are town and this wagon picking up steam is definitely not pure, so I think town will be able to get mafia out of it.


Am I smoking something or is this literally the first time in the entire game you actually give a read on mocsta?

conv does like 1-2 reads per 24hours.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:07 GMT
#1741
conv:
- does like 1-2 reads a day, making him look like minimal effort scum.
was about to say that doesn't seem to mind and just does thing in his own pace, but:
On March 22 2018 22:49 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 22:42 Palmar wrote:
although to be fair, conversion is close to being a lurker, he has no memorable interactions I can think of


This is a correct evaluation and where I should be in most people’s minds, IMO.

I will play more seriously now for whatever that counts for.

sounds kinda self aware n stuff.
- his reads aren't that exciting.
+ I do like his tone in a bunch of his other posts.
to quote conf town rel for example:
On March 22 2018 05:32 Rels wrote:
Oh yeah, I thought his frustration to Moosy was genuine.
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On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

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On March 20 2018 11:19 Conversion wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


You can't vote for yourself, buddy

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On March 20 2018 11:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:19 Conversion wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


You can't vote for yourself, buddy

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

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On March 20 2018 11:21 Conversion wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


Voting rules:
  1. Voting is mandatory.

  2. Use the following format (##vote: Calix or ##unvote) when posting your vote in the voting thread.

  3. You cannot vote for yourself.

  4. Votes that are not in the correct format will not be counted.

  5. Votes that are hidden in spoilers are not allowed and will not be counted.

  6. Plurality lynch is in effect. In the case of a tie, the person who reached the highest number of votes first will be lynched.





+ Show Spoiler +



You cannot vote for yourself.





+ Show Spoiler +
YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF.


/ vote on rels was basically for rels having a questionable tr on him. I think as scum you'd rather lynch ppl that scum read you. timing wise he voted rels just as a lot of ppl were jumping off him onto rels rendering that point kinda nai.


sooo. can still vote and if the quantity/quality of his reads stays this way he is likely scum.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:11 GMT
#1744
On March 23 2018 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 04:58 disformation wrote:
On March 23 2018 04:51 rsoultin wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:28 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs.
i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith.

wtf is going on.


Relax, buddy. I won't vote you to save myself. I believe you are town and this wagon picking up steam is definitely not pure, so I think town will be able to get mafia out of it.


Am I smoking something or is this literally the first time in the entire game you actually give a read on mocsta?

conv does like 1-2 reads per 24hours.


Sure, but when you're determining who you want to lynch at EoD and tell mocsta hey I'm townreading you bro and it's the first time you've mentioned him? Pretty out of left field for me.

hm did look more at his df and rels reads since he was voting them.
but yeah that is kinda the problem with him having like no reads posted. can do whatever he wants ands its super hard to see if that makes sense from his filter/pov or he just pulled it out of thin air.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:13 GMT
#1745
On March 23 2018 05:08 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 21:54 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2018 21:15 n00bKing wrote:
Or should they not kill anyone, hold their shot, and hope to get off a shot later in the game?


I think there's two approaches here I would consider:

Shoot Disinfo. Operate on the assumption that Scum won't target him for KP going into Night 1. If he's telling the truth I'll know then. Especially with the way the voting went (chaos after he blue claimed) maybe could use his thoughts and my own thoughts to formulate an educated opinion on who is scum. And if he was lying, easy scum dead.


Alternatively I might shoot Vivax. Might just be OMGUS but I don't think Vivax has scum hunted this game. I think his post have largely distracted town and can't make sense coming from a towny point of view. He's scum reading both myself and Keslier -- this doesn't make sense in my opinion. Particularly with the discussion I had with Keslier earlier in the day. And I don't think he's ever given a good explanation.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 22 2018 03:32 Calix wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count



disformation [5]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare
n00bking [4]: Conversion, Holyflare, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy, Tictock, Fecalfeast, disformation
KelsierSC [2]: ExO_, darthfoley
rsoultin [1]: Alakaslam, Rels
ExO_ [1]: Vivax, Tictock, MoosyDoosy
Alakaslam [1]: rsoultin
Rels [1]: Mocsta
ykl [0]: Alakaslam
Mocsta [0]: MoosyDoosy
Tictock [0]: Mocsta, MoosyDoosy
Palmar [0]: Koshi

Not Voting [5]: ykl, Palmar, sicklucker, disformation, Alakaslam


disformation is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM.


On March 22 2018 03:48 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC




At the time, Keslier is the 3rd wagon but 2 votes behind. He hops on the wagon with me, his primary scum read all game. I'm just not sure I believe if he really thinks I'm scum he's going to hop on a wagon with me to try to get traction for a new target (or just throw his vote away on 3rd party).


So Vivax or Disinfo. I feel like if I was a better player I would go with Disinfo because potentially more information could be learned by confirming he's blue. However I personally would be more likely to go with Vivxa: I think he's likely to be scum.


Really don’t like this post, not just kus he is suggesting a possible situation where a townVig shoots a townVet but the Vivax read feels pretty off.

Like Vivax’s KSC v Exo being MvM read is almost too weird to be coming from scum, and I feel like he is ignoring a ton of the content Vivax has provided this game.

yeah I think that is a typical town vivi tinfoil.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:22 GMT
#1751
like game sense or game flow like I kinda think that one of the wagons was indeed scum and that 2-3 ppl on Rels are scum.
but its actually fairly hard to figure out which one(s).

well that or it is vivi's tinfoil. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:31 GMT
#1755
that's actually another point. like tons of ppl scumread nk. why wasn't he the lynch?
I mean I think palmar, hf and rayn have a scumread on him? usually that would mean a lynch mob
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:45 GMT
#1763
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1770
*sigh* don't think your getting the point.
The not voting mocsta thing is indeed more likely town.
I am just using the out-of-nowhere tr on him as an example that you could pull whatever reads out of nowhere because you cant be hold accountable cause there is nothing in your filter.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1772
but yeah whatever, go and be productive
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 21:03 GMT
#1784
On March 23 2018 05:58 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:31 disformation wrote:
that's actually another point. like tons of ppl scumread nk. why wasn't he the lynch?
I mean I think palmar, hf and rayn have a scumread on him? usually that would mean a lynch mob


I'm going to filter dive you for it soon, but if you can, can you answer what made you hop off n00bking an hour after you voted him?

On March 22 2018 02:31 disformation wrote:
though. aside from the votes on me thing. I might need to reconsider a few things. like slam and palmar might actually look worse than nk and conv.

a lot of ppl are also super not really active. i think ksc and koshi are just happy with the lynch, but i also have a feeling that scum doesnt give a fuck and is just chillin... or afk.

mh. fuck. might actually be a tvt situation.

On March 22 2018 02:45 disformation wrote:
aight lemme unvote and think about it a tad more.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 21:09 GMT
#1792
On March 23 2018 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:31 disformation wrote:
that's actually another point. like tons of ppl scumread nk. why wasn't he the lynch?
I mean I think palmar, hf and rayn have a scumread on him? usually that would mean a lynch mob

Because none of you idiots listened to us. Well not you really because you're mafia but the townspeople.

On March 22 2018 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk what to do because df is voting for rels and disformation is voting for df and one of them is mafia.

On March 23 2018 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh god i fucked up. Should have lynched df.


so which one is it?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 22:43 GMT
#1870
bleh tired af. sry I couldn't be more useful, but I have 0 concentration atm.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 22:50 GMT
#1879
can we talk during resolution?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 22:53 GMT
#1886
yeah dunno. I think the nk wagon got more steam during n1 again...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 23:01 GMT
#1900
uhhhh...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 23:09 GMT
#1925
+ Show Spoiler [colored votes] +

Day 1 Final Vote Count


Rels [7]: Mocsta, rsoultin, Mocsta, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, Conversion, darthfoley, n00bking, raynpelikoneet, ExO_
Mocsta [4]: MoosyDoosy, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, MoosyDoosy, Rels, MoosyDoosy
darthfoley [3]: KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Conversion, disformation, ykl, raynpelikoneet
Conversion [1]: Koshi, darthfoley, disformation, rsoultin, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy
KelsierSC [1]: ExO_, darthfoley, Vivax, MoosyDoosy
n00bking [1]: Conversion, Holyflare, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy, Tictock, Fecalfeast, disformation
disformation [1]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, Palmar
rsoultin [0]: Alakaslam, Rels
sicklucker [0]: n00bking
Alakaslam [0]: rsoultin
ExO_ [0]: Vivax, Tictock, MoosyDoosy
ykl [0]: Alakaslam
Tictock [0]: Mocsta, MoosyDoosy
Palmar [0]: Koshi

Not Voting [2]: Coagulation, Alakaslam

will try to make more sense of it when I'm awake again
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 23:29 GMT
#1958
hmm... doesn't sound too bad. is there actually overlap?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 23:30 GMT
#1959
well. ill look at it after sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 23 2018 09:58 GMT
#2069
On March 23 2018 18:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 10:17 n00bKing wrote:
So, is Coagulation any sort of a decent Town player? Or is he another guy like Slam or FF, who assures us that he wields no influence, and that no one ever would listen to anything he had to say? Because that's the only scenario where I can make sense of a town player reading an 85-page thread, and then risking his own death before he gets to tell us ANYthing about what he thought of those 85 pages.


Slam is exponentially more useful than Coag. That should give you an indication of what coag does. Doing nothing is overachieving for him.

mh. despite having trouble reading slam i hope he comes back.
i guess that means coag plays like this as either alignment?

also what is this emo rayn thing?
On March 23 2018 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh i forgot. I will keep a list of this. Idk what other people read as big names but here's the list still:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 06:24 darthfoley wrote:
I don't think he's been aggressive enough with the other big names.

Holyflare
Vivax - although i have absolutely no idea why Vivax was shot here since this game he was never going to convince anyone of anything, at least alive. Probably medic dodge.
Mocsta - i for once agree with Koshi here 100%
Koshi - townread
Palmar - townread
rsoultin - townread

rels - i am pretty sure df can't claim i wasn't being aggressive with Rels since i voted for him, twice.
We will see if i would actually need to be aggressive with big names. So far looking pretty good for df, don't you think?

sheeping hf, palmar, koshi and rayn sounds like too good to be true... xD
inb4 we all should sheep vivi instead.
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