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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
RIP Rels. I take no responsibility. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Quite a few ghost or throw away votes as well. ykl, Ex0_, palmar, Koshi HF I still dont understand why you believe I am mafia. What you point out to me seems to revolve around you being read independently? I dont get it. Mafia can throw out good reads on town or scum. And town can throw out good reads on town or scum. If I happen to agree with something you said; why should that automatically you town? I really dont see any other argumentation being purported. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 22 2018 08:15 Mocsta wrote: Im really struggling to understand how this game became so disjointed. Quite a few ghost or throw away votes as well. ykl, Ex0_, palmar, Koshi HF I still dont understand why you believe I am mafia. What you point out to me seems to revolve around you being read independently? I dont get it. Mafia can throw out good reads on town or scum. And town can throw out good reads on town or scum. If I happen to agree with something you said; why should that automatically you town? I really dont see any other argumentation being purported. It's absolutely unthinkable to me for your biggest scum read to be noobking based on a case I made and points you AGREED WITH ME on and points you continued to repeat yet I was just a "I don't like hf this game, dunno if scummy or not" read. That's bull shit. If someone makes a case that you are inevitably following and agree with then that person is always going to be bigger than a nothing/null read, always. Just by virtue of you seeing the same things. You do it multiple times to rsoultin where you say "Oh, look, mindmeld, we must be town!" but not once do you attribute the same thing to your read on me despite the noobking thing. Then there's the fact that you FORGOT your own points on noobking and said he looked better just to re-point out he was your biggest scum read. When the thread started unvoting him you felt the need to reiterate the fact that his posting was better despite ALREADY saying it. Then there's that whole about to die stuff which I don't think is towny in the slightest. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I'm off till tomorrow | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
:/ I’m off to keep dealing with my car. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
I'll be waiting. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
This is something I can work with. On March 22 2018 08:21 Holyflare wrote: I understand why you have this opinion - Its very consistent with holyflare logic, regardless of alignment. However, not everyone plays or interprets content the way that you do. It's absolutely unthinkable to me for your biggest scum read to be noobking based on a case I made and points you AGREED WITH ME on and points you continued to repeat yet I was just a "I don't like hf this game, dunno if scummy or not" read. That's bull shit. In this case, I stand by what was written above, in that: I can and will acknowledge points I do or don't agree with, independent of my read on the originator. I actually cannot comprehend how someone would veto an entire persons filter, because they lean scum. Perhaps a subtle point of differentiation I apply with you, is that I expect sound logic from holyflare, irrespective of alignment. Thus, that I agree with you on an item, does not in any way, shape or form trigger a lean town (or scum for that matter). What I look for with Holyflare is motivation to post that sound logic. Sometimes I need to see people lynched to get a better understanding of that outcome. This is why I would not declare you a lean either side. To be honest, I thought you treated me the same - so I suppose voicing this out makes me lean scummy on you somewhat. Regardless, I believe my filter is both transparent and consistent surrounding this; I have just applied verbosity to this reply. If someone makes a case that you are inevitably following and agree with then that person is always going to be bigger than a nothing/null read, always. Just by virtue of you seeing the same things. You do it multiple times to rsoultin where you say "Oh, look, mindmeld, we must be town!" but not once do you attribute the same thing to your read on me despite the noobking thing. Fair item to raise; however, I believe the similarities are superficial at best.n00bking: Your comments prompted me to investigate for myself. I reached my own conclusion, that yes, was similar to your read; but also what I would consider independent of your read. Mindmeld: Related to posts released by two people at the same time, with content completely unrelated to any active happenings, with the same intent. rsoultin and I have done this a couple times; as well as Kelsier. The key difference to the n00bking scenario, is that neither party prompted the other party. This is true thinking along the same lines; and I think is a super town tell (mainly cos scum find it really taxing to "solve" the game). Then there's the fact that you FORGOT your own points on noobking and said he looked better just to re-point out he was your biggest scum read. When the thread started unvoting him you felt the need to reiterate the fact that his posting was better despite ALREADY saying it. fair points to raise, but I also think scum are less likely to polarise a position like this. My position is that I am still wary of n00bking; not enough to be my primary lynch focus, but a finger of suspicion may be the best old-school word. This is actually a similar situation to Kelsier with ExO_. Tell me Will, why are you applying this tell as scum to me, and ignoring it with others?Then there's that whole about to die stuff which I don't think is towny in the slightest. I dont care. it might not be towny to you, but you have not communicated why its scummy. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On March 22 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote: Are you slipping I wont be shot 2nite?Thing is Mocsta, I don't need you to retort my case against you. I just need you to do other stuff if you're town. I want to see who you scum read next and why. Want you to pick out info from this lynch on Rels where you base it from your perspective. I'll be waiting. | ||
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Vivax
22338 Posts
I know I haven't been kind to you but don't you have a place for me in that exclusive club? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I don’t even understand why Rels got lynched? All I saw was Rsoul shouting “lynch Rels” without mentioning whatever scummy thing he did that made her switch from her earlier “Rels is a bad D1 lynch” stance. I also noticed Noobking wasting his vote on a totally null slot that got replaced and take no stances on the other wagons. Apparently I have almost 40 pages to catch up on and I’m still pretty demoralized from my shit day/life. No promises. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
What do you make of Disfo blue claim? I would have expected you to have queried this given your clear scum lean on Disfo. Even moreso when Palmar began to question the validity. At minimum, I expected you to consider/espouse that the scum QT told Disfo to claim vet. Instead, you tell me that Disfo is blue & and state I am fake claiming because I claimed vet as mafia in the past.... On March 21 2018 20:00 Holyflare wrote: Disfo is in my scum pile I think. Not because I've read his posts - in fact I think he's said some things that align with what I've said - but because he hasn't waffled or said anything cool to me yet. On March 21 2018 22:32 Holyflare wrote: I find it hard to believe you would drop a hard read in disfo and ignore the claim because you are that focused on me. In fact, i think this is the type of juicy play you cant resist to comment on.... Also I'm now scum reading disformation quite a bit. Went filter diving and the following issues arose: Awkward entry into the game. No real reads till people started making them. All the reads he makes aren't waffles they are hedges. Not the good kind of hedges either. They are hedges that lean in one direction where he 50/50s a person IN ALMOST EVERY POST but then gives really off brand meta reasons to say they're town or whatever to complete the hedge because it looks like he can't think of in game reasons to be wrong. It's peculiar and scummy. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On March 22 2018 09:41 Tictock wrote: Skimmed through EoD and it looks like most people went pretty pants on head. I don’t even understand why Rels got lynched? All I saw was Rsoul shouting “lynch Rels” without mentioning whatever scummy thing he did that made her switch from her earlier “Rels is a bad D1 lynch” stance. I also noticed Noobking wasting his vote on a totally null slot that got replaced and take no stances on the other wagons. Apparently I have almost 40 pages to catch up on and I’m still pretty demoralized from my shit day/life. No promises. Scummy | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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Vivax
22338 Posts
On March 22 2018 10:27 darthfoley wrote: Vet is the optimal fake claim to make Um no it's actually one of the few claims that gets insta dunked by ccs | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
My tell on slam is not valid. /sorry | ||
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Vivax
22338 Posts
I could just add him but that list would be one man too long for my taste. It might be fine if he's a dwarf. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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