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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 23:09 GMT
#1501
Nuts
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 23:13 GMT
#1502
yeah i think i'll take the night phase to revisit things more closely myself and try not to spam this place up. people can drop questions or something here though and i'll try to get to them before end of phase
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2018 23:13 GMT
#1503
You guys fucked up.
RIP Rels.

I take no responsibility.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 21 2018 23:15 GMT
#1504
Im really struggling to understand how this game became so disjointed.

Quite a few ghost or throw away votes as well.
ykl, Ex0_, palmar, Koshi



HF
I still dont understand why you believe I am mafia.
What you point out to me seems to revolve around you being read independently?

I dont get it. Mafia can throw out good reads on town or scum. And town can throw out good reads on town or scum.
If I happen to agree with something you said; why should that automatically you town?

I really dont see any other argumentation being purported.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2018 23:15 GMT
#1505
bed time for me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 23:21 GMT
#1506
On March 22 2018 08:15 Mocsta wrote:
Im really struggling to understand how this game became so disjointed.

Quite a few ghost or throw away votes as well.
ykl, Ex0_, palmar, Koshi



HF
I still dont understand why you believe I am mafia.
What you point out to me seems to revolve around you being read independently?

I dont get it. Mafia can throw out good reads on town or scum. And town can throw out good reads on town or scum.
If I happen to agree with something you said; why should that automatically you town?

I really dont see any other argumentation being purported.


It's absolutely unthinkable to me for your biggest scum read to be noobking based on a case I made and points you AGREED WITH ME on and points you continued to repeat yet I was just a "I don't like hf this game, dunno if scummy or not" read. That's bull shit.

If someone makes a case that you are inevitably following and agree with then that person is always going to be bigger than a nothing/null read, always. Just by virtue of you seeing the same things. You do it multiple times to rsoultin where you say "Oh, look, mindmeld, we must be town!" but not once do you attribute the same thing to your read on me despite the noobking thing.

Then there's the fact that you FORGOT your own points on noobking and said he looked better just to re-point out he was your biggest scum read. When the thread started unvoting him you felt the need to reiterate the fact that his posting was better despite ALREADY saying it.

Then there's that whole about to die stuff which I don't think is towny in the slightest.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 21 2018 23:22 GMT
#1507
well that had about 2% chance of succeeding.

I'm off till tomorrow
Computer says mafia
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 21 2018 23:36 GMT
#1508
As I was leaving work car wouldn’t start and I’ve been dealing with that...jumped in thread with about 10 minutes left. Tried to read and keep up with what was happening. I felt Rels was the best choice out of the people being voted but I had no time to think.

:/

I’m off to keep dealing with my car.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 23:48 GMT
#1509
Thing is Mocsta, I don't need you to retort my case against you. I just need you to do other stuff if you're town. I want to see who you scum read next and why. Want you to pick out info from this lynch on Rels where you base it from your perspective.

I'll be waiting.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 21 2018 23:48 GMT
#1510
Thanks Will,
This is something I can work with.
On March 22 2018 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 08:15 Mocsta wrote:
HF
I still dont understand why you believe I am mafia.
What you point out to me seems to revolve around you being read independently?

I dont get it. Mafia can throw out good reads on town or scum. And town can throw out good reads on town or scum.
If I happen to agree with something you said; why should that automatically you town?

I really dont see any other argumentation being purported.
It's absolutely unthinkable to me for your biggest scum read to be noobking based on a case I made and points you AGREED WITH ME on and points you continued to repeat yet I was just a "I don't like hf this game, dunno if scummy or not" read. That's bull shit.
I understand why you have this opinion - Its very consistent with holyflare logic, regardless of alignment. However, not everyone plays or interprets content the way that you do.

In this case, I stand by what was written above, in that: I can and will acknowledge points I do or don't agree with, independent of my read on the originator. I actually cannot comprehend how someone would veto an entire persons filter, because they lean scum.

Perhaps a subtle point of differentiation I apply with you, is that I expect sound logic from holyflare, irrespective of alignment. Thus, that I agree with you on an item, does not in any way, shape or form trigger a lean town (or scum for that matter). What I look for with Holyflare is motivation to post that sound logic. Sometimes I need to see people lynched to get a better understanding of that outcome. This is why I would not declare you a lean either side. To be honest, I thought you treated me the same - so I suppose voicing this out makes me lean scummy on you somewhat. Regardless, I believe my filter is both transparent and consistent surrounding this; I have just applied verbosity to this reply.

If someone makes a case that you are inevitably following and agree with then that person is always going to be bigger than a nothing/null read, always. Just by virtue of you seeing the same things. You do it multiple times to rsoultin where you say "Oh, look, mindmeld, we must be town!" but not once do you attribute the same thing to your read on me despite the noobking thing.
Fair item to raise; however, I believe the similarities are superficial at best.

n00bking: Your comments prompted me to investigate for myself. I reached my own conclusion, that yes, was similar to your read; but also what I would consider independent of your read.
Mindmeld: Related to posts released by two people at the same time, with content completely unrelated to any active happenings, with the same intent. rsoultin and I have done this a couple times; as well as Kelsier. The key difference to the n00bking scenario, is that neither party prompted the other party. This is true thinking along the same lines; and I think is a super town tell (mainly cos scum find it really taxing to "solve" the game).

Then there's the fact that you FORGOT your own points on noobking and said he looked better just to re-point out he was your biggest scum read. When the thread started unvoting him you felt the need to reiterate the fact that his posting was better despite ALREADY saying it.
fair points to raise, but I also think scum are less likely to polarise a position like this. My position is that I am still wary of n00bking; not enough to be my primary lynch focus, but a finger of suspicion may be the best old-school word. This is actually a similar situation to Kelsier with ExO_. Tell me Will, why are you applying this tell as scum to me, and ignoring it with others?

Then there's that whole about to die stuff which I don't think is towny in the slightest.
I dont care. it might not be towny to you, but you have not communicated why its scummy.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 21 2018 23:49 GMT
#1511
On March 22 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Thing is Mocsta, I don't need you to retort my case against you. I just need you to do other stuff if you're town. I want to see who you scum read next and why. Want you to pick out info from this lynch on Rels where you base it from your perspective.

I'll be waiting.
Are you slipping I wont be shot 2nite?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
March 22 2018 00:25 GMT
#1512
It's no surprise mafia starts murdering townies when they are the ones who start lynching innocent people.

I know I haven't been kind to you but don't you have a place for me in that exclusive club?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 22 2018 00:41 GMT
#1513
Skimmed through EoD and it looks like most people went pretty pants on head.

I don’t even understand why Rels got lynched? All I saw was Rsoul shouting “lynch Rels” without mentioning whatever scummy thing he did that made her switch from her earlier “Rels is a bad D1 lynch” stance.

I also noticed Noobking wasting his vote on a totally null slot that got replaced and take no stances on the other wagons.

Apparently I have almost 40 pages to catch up on and I’m still pretty demoralized from my shit day/life. No promises.
I can take that responsibility.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 22 2018 00:58 GMT
#1514
Holyflare
What do you make of Disfo blue claim?

I would have expected you to have queried this given your clear scum lean on Disfo.
Even moreso when Palmar began to question the validity.

At minimum, I expected you to consider/espouse that the scum QT told Disfo to claim vet.
Instead, you tell me that Disfo is blue & and state I am fake claiming because I claimed vet as mafia in the past....

On March 21 2018 20:00 Holyflare wrote:
Disfo is in my scum pile I think. Not because I've read his posts - in fact I think he's said some things that align with what I've said - but because he hasn't waffled or said anything cool to me yet.
On March 21 2018 22:32 Holyflare wrote:
...
Also I'm now scum reading disformation quite a bit. Went filter diving and the following issues arose:

Awkward entry into the game. No real reads till people started making them.

All the reads he makes aren't waffles they are hedges. Not the good kind of hedges either. They are hedges that lean in one direction where he 50/50s a person IN ALMOST EVERY POST but then gives really off brand meta reasons to say they're town or whatever to complete the hedge because it looks like he can't think of in game reasons to be wrong.

It's peculiar and scummy.
I find it hard to believe you would drop a hard read in disfo and ignore the claim because you are that focused on me. In fact, i think this is the type of juicy play you cant resist to comment on.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 22 2018 01:20 GMT
#1515
On March 22 2018 09:41 Tictock wrote:
Skimmed through EoD and it looks like most people went pretty pants on head.

I don’t even understand why Rels got lynched? All I saw was Rsoul shouting “lynch Rels” without mentioning whatever scummy thing he did that made her switch from her earlier “Rels is a bad D1 lynch” stance.

I also noticed Noobking wasting his vote on a totally null slot that got replaced and take no stances on the other wagons.

Apparently I have almost 40 pages to catch up on and I’m still pretty demoralized from my shit day/life. No promises.

Scummy
Computer says mafia
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 22 2018 01:27 GMT
#1516
Vet is the optimal fake claim to make
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
March 22 2018 01:28 GMT
#1517
On March 22 2018 10:27 darthfoley wrote:
Vet is the optimal fake claim to make


Um no it's actually one of the few claims that gets insta dunked by ccs
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 22 2018 01:30 GMT
#1518
rsoultin.. im going to say something that will upset you.

My tell on slam is not valid. /sorry

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
March 22 2018 01:34 GMT
#1519
Should I ever have a reason to remove ExO or Kelsier from my scumreads, I'll have Palmar take their place.
I could just add him but that list would be one man too long for my taste. It might be fine if he's a dwarf.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 22 2018 01:41 GMT
#1520
hi
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