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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 15:37 GMT
#1022
Also yeah if it's down to NK and disfo I'm more confident on the NK townread.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 15:50 GMT
#1027
lol >< i have nothing against voting rels except that i doubt i can objectively read him. i want disinfo to answer my question regarding the slam games he linked
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 16:11 GMT
#1039
On March 21 2018 22:09 rsoultin wrote:
I know that reads are not entirely based off association D1, but Rels' lynch list (ignoring the null could lynches)

is literally me/Palmar/ExO

Where I don't think anyone sees this exchange between ExO and myself and thinks oh, that's SvS! And what earthly reason would I have for pinging Palmar out before anyone if we were scum together >< Much less for hey man he feels wrong!

I would at least expect you to think, hey, I'm probably wrong here on something because these people MAKE NO SENSE together. Maybe you still come to the conclusion that people are independently scummy, but it seems like you're just throwing names out there without considering it at all.


I still find this relevant, even if no one else does and it's easily hand-waved away. Particularly the bolded.

It's not that he has us three as his scumreads. It's that no apparent thought has gone into it. Like I think if you're scumreading me you'd be more inclined to reconsider your read on ExO, even if he's pushing me for asinine reasons.

And while I could see someone missing my pinging Palmar out...multiple times...because I can't really explain that read. I would think it would also give him pause about Palmar. I'd expect some sort of...well this seems odd hedging or something, like perhaps an explanation why we're all so independently scummy that none of this matters.

Didn't see anything of the sort.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 16:11 GMT
#1041
On March 22 2018 01:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
So we believe mocstas vig claim right? Ive had him as scummy in my brain but that d1 claim though


Not lynching mocsta.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 16:16 GMT
#1045
On March 22 2018 01:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well then i scumread mocsta and am pocketed by hf.

Why is disfo more scum than nk, sheepdog hf?


So what exactly is this tone read that has you so convinced hf is town?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 16:19 GMT
#1047
On March 22 2018 01:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 01:16 rsoultin wrote:
On March 22 2018 01:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well then i scumread mocsta and am pocketed by hf.

Why is disfo more scum than nk, sheepdog hf?


So what exactly is this tone read that has you so convinced hf is town?


He's handsome and smells nice


You're in my poe list, so if you could help me out by giving a straight answer, I'd appreciate that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 16:31 GMT
#1055
-facepalms at ff-

Okay.

@disinfo thanks

Same place really. Disinfo could be scum and I could be wrong, but I'm not liking that lynch. Will only go there to save stronger townreads (NK included).

Rels I can get behind. Palmar. Would really like Slam most just for the vindication if he flips scum but that lynch doesn't seem terribly likely. I've explained the best I can.

I guess of my fallback lynches I'd prefer sl? Dunnae FF could be town for not making shit up. Maybe. Possibly. Conv...okay conv and sl mostly same level.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 16:38 GMT
#1057
Could be getting white-knighted or just hard mafia-siding in mocsta's pocket again, but I find it unlikely that we keep thinking along the same lines so frequently irt.

HF, is there anyone of Rels/Slam/Palmar that I could convince you to vote for?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 16:53 GMT
#1065
On March 22 2018 01:42 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Could be getting white-knighted or just hard mafia-siding in mocsta's pocket again, but I find it unlikely that we keep thinking along the same lines so frequently irt.

HF, is there anyone of Rels/Slam/Palmar that I could convince you to vote for?


Quickly sum up Rels for me — why do you think he should be the vote? just omgus?

I don’t think he’s particularly good looking and think he doesn’t have a good reason to add me into his lynch pile, but evidently has some rep for ignoring day 1. If he was scum he could’ve skirted by without saying anything. What has he said that makes you think by posting he’s scummier than if he just stayed silent?


I just mentioned it again?

His scum list is retarded. He has you, me and Palmar as scum. Which could be fine if it appeared he'd even paused to consider that for two seconds, but it doesn't.

Also, I find it really fucking strange that he has no read on slam but says my vote is bad. And calls me underwhelming. I could understand people doing that before (when I was trying not to spam), and maybe it's my ego talking but I hardly feel like underwhelming and not trying to solve the game are things that anyone can accuse me of at this point.

If you think I'm scum you have to think I'm actively pushing scum objective. Period. Which apparently according to Rels' reads is shitfighting with one scum buddy while calling him town and throwing the other one who's received barely any scrutiny under the bus cause reasons?

@hf

I'm gonna feel like a complete tard if either noob or disinfo are scum, perhaps especially if disinfo is, but this doesn't feel like a thread of panicked scummers to me. Gut says TvT.

@conv

I see something that may be town. Then more that is meh and could easily be scum. And I end up right back at 0 for you. It is what it is.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 16:59 GMT
#1069
\o/

slam/palmar/rels?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 17:09 GMT
#1070
On March 22 2018 01:59 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 01:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 22 2018 01:42 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2018 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Could be getting white-knighted or just hard mafia-siding in mocsta's pocket again, but I find it unlikely that we keep thinking along the same lines so frequently irt.

HF, is there anyone of Rels/Slam/Palmar that I could convince you to vote for?


Quickly sum up Rels for me — why do you think he should be the vote? just omgus?

I don’t think he’s particularly good looking and think he doesn’t have a good reason to add me into his lynch pile, but evidently has some rep for ignoring day 1. If he was scum he could’ve skirted by without saying anything. What has he said that makes you think by posting he’s scummier than if he just stayed silent?


I just mentioned it again?

His scum list is retarded. He has you, me and Palmar as scum. Which could be fine if it appeared he'd even paused to consider that for two seconds, but it doesn't.

Also, I find it really fucking strange that he has no read on slam but says my vote is bad. And calls me underwhelming. I could understand people doing that before (when I was trying not to spam), and maybe it's my ego talking but I hardly feel like underwhelming and not trying to solve the game are things that anyone can accuse me of at this point.

If you think I'm scum you have to think I'm actively pushing scum objective. Period. Which apparently according to Rels' reads is shitfighting with one scum buddy while calling him town and throwing the other one who's received barely any scrutiny under the bus cause reasons?

@hf

I'm gonna feel like a complete tard if either noob or disinfo are scum, perhaps especially if disinfo is, but this doesn't feel like a thread of panicked scummers to me. Gut says TvT.

@conv

I see something that may be town. Then more that is meh and could easily be scum. And I end up right back at 0 for you. It is what it is.

imo rels is more like "those are the most scummiest persons in isolation". in a "i think there is at least 1 scum in there" kinda way? as implied by bolded here:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 22:12 Rels wrote:
On March 21 2018 22:09 rsoultin wrote:
I know that reads are not entirely based off association D1, but Rels' lynch list (ignoring the null could lynches)

is literally me/Palmar/ExO

Where I don't think anyone sees this exchange between ExO and myself and thinks oh, that's SvS! And what earthly reason would I have for pinging Palmar out before anyone if we were scum together >< Much less for hey man he feels wrong!

I would at least expect you to think, hey, I'm probably wrong here on something because these people MAKE NO SENSE together. Maybe you still come to the conclusion that people are independently scummy, but it seems like you're just throwing names out there without considering it at all.

I don't expect anyone to have the perfect 3 man team in his first read post D1. So no the fact that your discussion is apparently not SvS (I only skimmed it so I have no opinion on that) wouldn't change my reads individually.



-shrugs-

i'm not going to pretend that I think rels is slam-dunk scum, or that my ego's not involved. but i know i'm town, and i find it extremely difficult to believe that in a 20 person game i'm the only one really pinging him. extremely difficult. he's played with me enough, and (sorry ExO) doesn't have the issues some others have with reading me. i expect better

of course it could be true that he really just looked at us all in isolation and found us all to be individually scummy. i just think if you're going to take the time to do your little spoiler 'stream of consciousness' you'd probably comment as your reads develop (like so many players have) when your reads and how they interact stop making sense.

basically, i think his scumread on me is most likely bullshit. and his 'scumreads in isolation' without considering how they're interacting is also likely bullshit.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 17:13 GMT
#1072
and another thing that seems pretty bullshit? all of that happening during a lunch break. i hadn't really registered that until reopening his filter

the only possible town explanation i have for it is he had a eureka! moment regarding my alignment where i was 'bland' and had a 'bad vote', and just had to then rush off and completely catch up in his lunch break so he could play d1 and lynch the evil baddy scum queen rsoul rofl ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 17:21 GMT
#1074
On March 22 2018 02:11 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 01:59 rsoultin wrote:
\o/

slam/palmar/rels?

hm. think there is a good chance of hitting scum on my wagoneers.
could do slam though.
rels is fairly nully still.
keep forgetting plammar. bad sign right there.

time goes so fast in this m20 stuff.


blaaaah you're still thinking conv/nk might be scum on you i suppose?

i really am beginning to feel like i'm talking into a vacuum. maybe it's time to take a step back and let others play and stop spamming @.@

gonna get some shit done i should have started hours ago instead of continuing to beat my head against a wall. btw, if i read one of your earlier posts correctly, last minute will not be appreciated
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 17:35 GMT
#1078
On March 22 2018 02:31 disformation wrote:
though. aside from the votes on me thing. I might need to reconsider a few things. like slam and palmar might actually look worse than nk and conv.

a lot of ppl are also super not really active. i think ksc and koshi are just happy with the lynch, but i also have a feeling that scum doesnt give a fuck and is just chillin... or afk.

mh. fuck. might actually be a tvt situation.


That's where I'm at.

And I agree one, maybe two on you could be scum from a purely theoretical standpoint, but I don't think looking only there for scum is that useful if NK is town, which I think he is.

Definitely also fine with a palmar lynch. I'd be happy as a clam if I could just get people on one of those three @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 20:00 GMT
#1120
wafflebot isn't so sure she wants to lynch slam anymore

wafflebot is pre-making dinner for tomorrow because she forgot that she won't be here to do that before lex's late shift

please tune in later for more updates from wafflebot
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 20:31 GMT
#1153
On March 22 2018 05:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:
@NK, don't agree on conv, but your slam point is solid.

@KSC...I still don't remember reading his filter. Would have to check the filters of the people voting him. Which I'll probably do, but honestly I don't want to lynch him anyway because:

- viva read feels genuine to me <- this was my hesitance earlier
- focus on finding scum in those scumreading him feels super natural from town
- he's actually trying to engage me on slam <- entirely selfish reason

Removing disinfo from the lynch pool

You know what?

Fuck you folk, I’m out. Lynch the slot if you want.


Really not sure why this set you off?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 20:39 GMT
#1164
On March 22 2018 05:35 n00bKing wrote:
Yo rsoul, what does it mean when you say "nh"?

Nothing. It's just me being uncertain. Onomatopoeia for a grunt.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 20:40 GMT
#1165
I don't think mocsta is scum though?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 20:45 GMT
#1173
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.

Claimed vet. Try again
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 20:46 GMT
#1178
On March 22 2018 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am here let me catch up real quick.


Please tell me if I'm just butthurt on Rels. i want to lynch him but I'm not sure that's not just pride. Hf says I've been underwhelming so it's justified @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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