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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 06:06 disformation wrote: shitty host wifom: there just was a post in the replacement thread by calix. That's not alignment-indicative though, right? And if it is, I think it supports a sicklucker lynch, rather than opposing one. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 06:11 rsoultin wrote: Why so hell-bent on lynchig disinfo? There are potentially other ways to check rather than just let mafia shoot/not shoot him. Like what? I really only see Role Cop, and even that won't help, if he's legitimately a mafia Veteran. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 06:12 disformation wrote: *cough* *cough* sl is pure 50/50 at this point. or 25/75 with 5 scum and 20/80 with 4 scum I guess. And I know I'm 100% to flip Town. And I think Kelsier is very very likely to flip Town, so I'll do anything short of sticking my own neck in the Noose, to keep his out of it. Again, we have singleton votes on: Alakaslam, rsoul, mocsta, Rels, and Conversion. Kelsier now saying DF is a good lynch. Where is a strong enough town-guided consensus going to land, besides onto sicklucker? | ||
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n00bKing
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##Unvote ##Vote: sicklucker Starting to look like the only proper play. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 06:36 Fecalfeast wrote: This is my only break til deadline and i have no idea what's going on... can we lynch vivax Would lynch Vivax. Would lynch ykl. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 07:17 rsoultin wrote: More comfortable lynching conversion than df, so there's that. Same, if that's what it comes down to. This Coagulation guy looks like a pretty good lynch, though?  ##Unvote sicklucker ##Vote: Coagulation I have returned and am caught up, and will be reading along. But will only be able to post in the moments of greatest need. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 07:48 rsoultin wrote: whoa ykl ghost vote I'll say ghost vote NAI, ykl only scummy for other reasons. Would still like to have lynched him, or Vivax, or Coagulation. Would lynch Rels over any of Conversion/DF/Kelsier I suppose. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 07:55 KelsierSC wrote: noobking move your vote ##Unvote ##Vote: Rels | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 07:58 Rels wrote: yep. But more than that, rsoul attitude is not solving the game. She's 100% scum. Being mean to the newbie make no sense. I didn't see anyone comment on this post from Rels. Was he just mixing up players, here? Or has Exo played here little enough that Rels could conceivably think of him (and not ykl) as "the newbie?" Because it was Exo she was mean to, and not ykl. | ||
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n00bKing
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I'll slip that you won't be shot 2nite, too. Assuming you're also Town, I think we're both likely to survive the night on the basis of there being just enough swirling suspicion for the scum to think we can be lynched. A more interesting question from you would have been to ask Holyflare why he seems to imply that HE will be around to see how you handle the future. Kelsier is also very optimistic about living to see Day 2: On March 22 2018 08:08 KelsierSC wrote: Yeh I'm taking the day off mafia tomorrow and going to look with fresh eyes on Friday. He won't be able to look with fresh eyes on Friday, if he's killed on Thursday (in his time zone). But he may also feel like he's potential lynchbait. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 08:48 Mocsta wrote: I dont care. it might not be towny to you, but you have not communicated why its scummy. At the time you made your longer "last will" post, I didn't feel like you were in too much jeopardy of being the lynch. Looking back, there *was* legitimate reason for you to be worried. So that works in your favor. Still, by the time of your shorter "last words" post, you were definitely not in danger, so to me, it's a post that reeks of insincerity. I felt the same way about your drunken typos, as you could probably tell. These are not very strong reasons to scumread you though, so with you being one of the active players, I wasn't interested in shoving you into a Noose, so I broke what (at the time) was a tie by shoving Rels instead. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 20:01 Holyflare wrote: She was rude to ykl. Asked him if he couldn't post in thread or something. Ok, I'll check back and look for that. I mostly remembered her being (more) rude to Exo. Though I can understand her frustration with him. lol | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 09:41 Tictock wrote: Skimmed through EoD and it looks like most people went pretty pants on head. I don’t even understand why Rels got lynched? All I saw was Rsoul shouting “lynch Rels” without mentioning whatever scummy thing he did that made her switch from her earlier “Rels is a bad D1 lynch” stance. I also noticed Noobking wasting his vote on a totally null slot that got replaced and take no stances on the other wagons. Thank goodness you didn't have a wasted singleton vote on me, at EoD. Oh, right. Rels got lynched because we allowed ourselves to be in a position where one of those wagons HAD to be, instead of taking the ABC play of consolidating on the AFK (and if we could rewind and lynch the AFK instead, I guess we probably should, huh?) Also, lol @ "taking no stance on other wagons." I broke a tie to protect darthfoley from being lynched, and Rels remained the lynch from the moment I did that, until EoD. Killing Rels isn't something to hang my hat on, but it pretty well protects me from your criticism of "taking no stances" on the wagons. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 10:34 Vivax wrote: Should I ever have a reason to remove ExO or Kelsier from my scumreads, I'll have Palmar take their place. I could just add him but that list would be one man too long for my taste. It might be fine if he's a dwarf. What's a dwarf, in this context? | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 18:48 Palmar wrote: I love how it took less than 1 page of mocsta's 7 page filter for him to drop the stupid post restriction :D More town-indicative than the opposite, I would say, if I needed to pick one way or the other. Agree/disagree? | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 20:07 n00bKing wrote: Ok, I'll check back and look for that. I mostly remembered her being (more) rude to Exo. Though I can understand her frustration with him. lol 1) Why is rsoul's filter 8 pages already? argh! Is she still this spammy as scum? (I would assume yes, but can't hurt to check.) 2) Is this the post you mean? On March 22 2018 07:50 rsoultin wrote: Took you four minutes to formulate this sentence did it? I read that more as being suspicious of him taking a long time to craft a "decision post" about where to vote, instead of reading it as rudeness about "are you too dumb to make sentences?" | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 18:10 Palmar wrote: My gut says that veteran is both a stupid and weird claim for mafia to make. It's also one of those types of claims that bad townies feel really comfortable revealing, because they don't understand the role of a veteran in the game. Thus if I was forced to bet, I'd bet town on disfo. That doesn't make it the wrong play to lynch him. He fucked up and should be lynched, and of course there's very much a possibility he's just mafia fakeclaiming a vet. We should not forget the possibility that he is mafia TRUEclaming vet. There's nothing stopping the mafia from having a vet, so that's something that makes it a little less attractive for having a Role Cop check him. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: "Dumbtell" about setup. In neither case are those dumbtells. They're just good questions to have answers to. And in the example from this game, a question the mafia would NOT want us to have an answer to. On March 22 2018 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also then there is the shit where he forgets all his scumreads and votes for an afk person I made clear who I was interested in lynching. Those targets were not up for lynch at EoD, the votes just weren't there. Taking a stab in the dark at Rels (when he at least had begun playing, and showed enough effort to read/skim the majority of the game) instead of taking the paint-by-numbers play of consolidating onto sicklucker IS NOT what I think we should have done, and I made THAT clear as well. But consolidation onto the afk didn't happen, and taking the stab at Rels was the nearest thing to it, so that's what I did, to ensure that it would take a DEDICATED last-minute push for anyone to get darthfoley into the Noose. Because I thought he was obviously a subpar lynch, and if he got the Noose anyway, I wanted to be able to see whose fault it was. With regard to questioning ykl about his word selection: The thing you SHOULD have noticed is that he DOESN'T want to answer me. When we had the first exchange about his double-usage of the word "instead" I asked him if he was nervous about something, because his word selection indicated to me that I was making him nervous, or uncomfortable. To his credit, he ADMITTED to being nervous, instead of following up his discomfort by lying about it to me. The next time I questioned him about his word choice, he failed to answer, and left. When I brought it up again later, he answered with a question that didn't give me an answer to my question. I immediately pointed out that he didn't answer the question and he left again. When comparing this to my questioning of HF about his word choice in the previous game, yes, they do look the same, and SHOULD look the same. Because at that stage in that game, I felt free to simply question HF in exactly the same manner I would if I had been Town. Did I have mafia motivation for wanting his lynch? Yes. Did that impact the way I went about interrogating him? Not in any way whatsoever. And this shit MATTERS. If I post a multi-point case against someone, and one of the points involves their word selection, then if you don't find that evidence compelling, you can dismiss it and decide if the other points move you or not. But I think you'd be making a mistake, because in my experience, understanding the psychology behind word choice is very helpful in these games. For example: On March 22 2018 19:06 Palmar wrote: I actually really like rayn's last quote on noobking. That was a perfectly readable sentence by ykl, but noobking decided to be obtuse about it. Is it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster. That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 22 2018 21:01 ExO_ wrote: This is a part of the game I struggle with, feeling motivated to filter dive and scum hunt after the mislynch. Pretty big part of the game, bro. We're expected to mislynch on Day 1. This is what comes next. *shrug* On March 22 2018 21:01 ExO_ wrote: Rayn you said you were interested in me. Do you or anybody else have questions I can answer? Ooh, ooh! I have a question you can answer. Imagine a hypothetical world where we have a Vigilante. Whom should they kill tonight, and why? | ||
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