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rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:02 GMT

#789

Noob. Let's play a game.

Pretend for a moment that you're 100% convinced that I'm town. Maybe the host fairy whispered it into your ear or something.

Help me understand how you and I could possibly have been on the same page last game had you been town if this is an example of your town game.

Because I don't see it.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:10 GMT

#793

On March 21 2018 17:07 n00bKing wrote:

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Eh. Perfectly happy to help you keep an eye on her, but high-activity players are poor D1 lynches. I expect her to post, I expect her to respond to people who make an effort to engage her, and I expect to be able to read her with a lot more confidence as time goes on. As much as I disagreed with her initial set of musings, I can't support a D1 lynch of rsoul.

So tempted to throw shoes...

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:13 GMT

#794

On March 21 2018 17:09 ykl wrote:
Actually, for all of how much I dislike the tone he takes in a lot of them, I don't really think n00bking is acting very scummy? I'm not sure if I missed anything from the context of the posts.

When I say boring I mean focusing and talking about things that aren't interesting/irrelevant.

Which is not something I'd like to attribute to town players. However, there is the possibility that he genuinely believes we can't lynch scum except by happy accident on d1 (or if scum just really fucks up)

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:19 GMT

#798

On March 21 2018 17:17 Koshi wrote:

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I like this guy. Can we keep him? Pretty please 😇

Lol, why?

Though I don't mind lynching slam instead

I still say his narrative makes no sense given his curse of chupazi way of understanding the game lol ><

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:30 GMT

#801

Okay, let me list my points:

- slam entered the thread seeming to have less fun than my experience is when he's town

- he chided people for fast judgments, then made one himself

- picks up the 'slam whisperer' rhetoric when I have not claimed any such thing (if anything, I'm predisposed to townread him, even when he's scum) to push a narrative that scum rsoul wants to use her whisperer clout to get him mislynched d1

- this third point directly contradicts a long-standig view of the game in which slam believes scum tries to keep him as late as possible to mislynch him and win the game off that

No, I don't claim to have a god read on him. I do claim that none of this feels like town slam tone or how slam would think. And I almost never want to lynch him, which makes me more convinced that I'm probably right here.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:42 GMT

#810

-flicks noob- if you're trying to 'understand' me, the answer to your question about slam is already in the post you just quoted from

And obviously i prefer a slam lynch. But if that doesn't materialize, I want to refine my other reads.

And I really don't see how your list vs my gut with only a little logic mixed in yields the same reads to such an extent that my having different reads than you d1 is enough to not want to vote slam whom you agree with me on!

Plus you simultaneously say

You don't care who gets lynched, must be scum!

And

Anyone who is certain of who they're lynching is bad because they're probably wrong

Makes any earthly sense. It's like...stop being bad. But don't stop too much because townies are bad, and not being bad makes people scum.

How does that even make sense?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:47 GMT

#812

On March 21 2018 17:42 n00bKing wrote:

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Because we WERE on the same page last game. lol

When playing scum, I am never unaware of what the town me would be thinking and feeling. And I deviate from it only if furthering or protecting the scum agenda has taken precedence over "looking and acting precisely as I would while town" for that moment. You and I consistently held (and stated) the same opinions in that game, on one issue after another. The only subject on which you and town me differed was Holyflare.

Lol I just...am flabbergasted at how many ppl think they know what they'd think if they didn't have perfect information. I really am.

Because I haven't the faintest.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:48 GMT

#816

On March 21 2018 17:30 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, let me list my points:

- slam entered the thread seeming to have less fun than my experience is when he's town

- he chided people for fast judgments, then made one himself

- picks up the 'slam whisperer' rhetoric when I have not claimed any such thing (if anything, I'm predisposed to townread him, even when he's scum) to push a narrative that scum rsoul wants to use her whisperer clout to get him mislynched d1

- this third point directly contradicts a long-standig view of the game in which slam believes scum tries to keep him as late as possible to mislynch him and win the game off that

No, I don't claim to have a god read on him. I do claim that none of this feels like town slam tone or how slam would think. And I almost never want to lynch him, which makes me more convinced that I'm probably right here.

This is important! The master of chupazi has abandoned his chupazi mindset.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 08:57 GMT

#821

-facedesks-

And this is yet another reason why I say 'ppl probably won't see what I see'. Managing expectations.

If I don't get anyone to talk to me about slam my head might explode ><

Tell me I am not the only one who knows about his chupazi game theory?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:01 GMT

#825

And here I have koshi saying he'll just rely on slam's read to make a read on noob @.@

Viva is off doing his tinfoil again.

Noob is infuriating regardless of his alignment. It's like talking to a scolding school teacher.

I want a mocsta. And a KSC. And I want votes on slam. And I want people who don't want votes on slam to explain to me why, and my head might explode again if it's just 'I don't know how to read people like slam'. Cowards.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:03 GMT

#826

On March 21 2018 18:00 disformation wrote:

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well i know that je is using the word chupazi a lot? is the theory the one you mentioned in the point about him thinking mafia wants to usually keep him for endgame or late game?
thinking of it i might want to check a game he was in with me. the host revenge one.

yes! that is exactly it! thank you

I wish I could say which game he's explained it in. I think more than one. But yes.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:04 GMT

#827

Okay, sure, noob.

Now vote slam.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:07 GMT

#832

-bounces up and down-

KSC CHUPAZI!

What is slam's chupazi theory?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:10 GMT

#834

;o;

I really find it wild that people don't know his chupazi theory.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:20 GMT

#841

On March 21 2018 18:15 KelsierSC wrote:
honestly rsoultin I have no idea what the fuck he is saying and I don't have any substantial meta read so i'm just going to ignore him and try to lynch someone else. I think you're town so I don't see your intentions as malicious but I just can't deal with slam

head

exploding

days when you wish you were a vig so you didn't need to convince people to lynch your scumread

so i have four options:

1) bounce up and down and channel palmar (oh, right, palmar lol >< he's playing this game)
2) find the damn game(s) out of the 20 something I played three years ago @.@
3) say fuck it and go do something else <- tempting
4) find who else I'd be fine lynching

meh, I think I'll have to do four eventually, but yeah ><

of course, there's more mafia in the game even if I'm right on slam (and I think I probably am)

but this is annoying ><

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:29 GMT

#848

palmar/slam

2 out of whatever. 5 probably. op suggests at least 5

Remove from lynch pool in no particular order
KSC
koshi
Viva
mocsta
Rels
ExO
Rayn
moosy
df

That leaves:
HF
Conv
ykl
noob
disinfo
ff
tt
sl

Way too large a lynch pool. Poop.

Could totally lynch palmar for big boy plays if people are too pussy to lynch slam. (Because yeah lol people too pussy to lynch slam are definitely going to get behind a palmar lynch).

Also, wasn't going to spam this game.

Diving filters to try to narrow that lynch pool. Some are just in there because I don't remember much from them.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:35 GMT

#853

Probably should remove noob as well because he's actually being less...I don't know how to call it...hammer and nail with the counterarguments. Focused? Everyone now gets the benefit of the aggravation? Something like that.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:36 GMT

#854

On March 21 2018 18:33 Mocsta wrote:
Heading out soon

N00b reads better past hour. Aside from awkward exchnage with ykl

I am fearful of lynch shenannies as i cant see any inkling of consensus and no default leadership. Lots of independents.

How about tjis new stone
Lwts talk palmar

Useful filter so far??

Lol ><

Consider me well-pocketed this game.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:42 GMT

#856

Meh, could lynch conv. Super narrow focus on noob, even though I don't find the initial scumread awful. Chance he could just be town tunneling and thinking he 'caught' scum. Bit lower with hardly any other reads coming in at all.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 21 2018 09:42 GMT

#857

On March 21 2018 18:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Tina why are we lynching dis?

I honestly don't remember. I can filter him next. Last time I filtered him I was torn.

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