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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 01:17 GMT
#636
On March 21 2018 10:13 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 09:53 Conversion wrote:
funny you mention skill because if you’re town you’re the one getting scum read, not me

but you’re scum and it’s really cute that you try to quantify skill at a forum mafia game as literally no one thinks you’re good LOL

lol, sure buddy. I'm not being scumread by a significant number of players. I'm not in the Noose right now, the number of votes on me are fewer than will be had by the eventual lynch, and there's a lot of time left in the Phase.

If the scum team isn't terrified of me yet, they WILL be. In all the years I've played this game, and in all the dozens of times I've played this game, I have still never ONCE been end-gamed as Town. If I'm Town, and the scum won, then I HAD to have been dead. The scum team MUST eliminate me themselves, or get the town to do it for them, because if I'm left alive, the mafia win percentage falls to ZERO.

As another player once put it, the only person who figures out the scum roster faster than I do, is the narrator.

It has also been more than four YEARS since any town team I was on accidentally mislynched or vig-shot me, and then managed to win without my help. It's never happened here. Town won when the scum team failed to kill me, and town won after the scum team night-killed me, but the one time I was mislynched, is my only Town loss here. (I voted against only two players in that game, and both were scum, but even after I was mislynched, Town didn't follow my votes quickly enough to win the game without me.)

If there are any players in this game more experienced than I am, there aren't many. And I expect there are none who could match my winning percentage.

But keep on running your mouth.


Wow dude, you're really good. People like you are what's going to make #TLMafiaGreatAgain. After all, there is WAY too much dick measuring and toxicity going on around here.


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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 01:19 GMT
#637
I do want to shout n00bking out for him revealing the dirty nature of TLMafia meta. With him leading us to victory by taking no stances on anything, he will surely increase his winrate and therefore the win rate of us all
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 01:26 GMT
#647
On March 21 2018 10:24 Mocsta wrote:
DF,
I preferred you in character.

Responding to that chatter is only satisfying NK agenda to avoid having to scum-hunt.
NK says "disfo/ykl are good targets to pressure" but at no points applies, said pressure.

My question for you is why arent you voting NK.


Chester Campbell is still around, but he's only necessary for some people in the thread
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 01:27 GMT
#648
On March 21 2018 10:24 Mocsta wrote:
DF,
I preferred you in character.

Responding to that chatter is only satisfying NK agenda to avoid having to scum-hunt.
NK says "disfo/ykl are good targets to pressure" but at no points applies, said pressure.

My question for you is why arent you voting NK.


I'll get there eventually. But i still don't think KSC is townie like everyone else seems to think so
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 01:31 GMT
#653
On March 21 2018 10:28 Mocsta wrote:
Moosy - You sexy Deer! Do me a favour and swap that vote from ExO to Noobking.

DF. you didnt answer the q.


Because I dont want KSC to be comfortable and theres still plenty of time to change
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 01:33 GMT
#657
On March 21 2018 10:30 Mocsta wrote:
Eventually lol.. i didnt think chester liked to tease?

Even if KSC is scum.
Who has a more likely filter to be scum? NK or KSC?

what is actually pinging you about KSC vs. him being abrasive?


will respond to this after my pubg game
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 03:36 GMT
#701
On March 21 2018 11:49 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:51 Mocsta wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:47 Tictock wrote:
On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:

tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.


?

I don't give a shit you temp scum read me (for pretty meh reasons), and I'm leaning town on you atm.

Got bigger fish bro.

I am surprised you agree with the notion of leaving Moosy off the lynch block today though. Not that he is my top scum read or dying to lynch him myself, but I do think he has a pretty good chance of being mafia at this point.

Idk, just weird to see multiple people take this "ignore Moosy" stance.
I cant speak for others, but my opinion is 2-fold.

(1) Most trolling mafia dont have the balls to keep it up for an entire cycle. At some point there is a need to survive.
I dont know Moosy well enough to understand if this tell applies, but, i can give benefit of the doubt for 1 cycle.

(2) I am expecting between 4 and 5 mafia. Even if Moosy was mafia, i think there is enough content this Day1 to have a successful lynch outside moosy.

Your 2nd point is seriously ludicrous. Even if Moosy was Mafia, you think there's enough content in Day ONE to have a successful lynch on someone else? Why would a town player ever believe this? The odds of a successful Day 1 lynch are ALWAYS LOW. And any time a scum player is lynched on Day 1, it's always going to be their own fault, and not the result of some widespread super-sleuthing from the town players. Remember that time when a scum player was lynched on Day 1, not because they did something wrong, but because the town at large just played and cooperated so well together that the odds of a successful lynch actually tilted in their favor? No, neither does anyone else. In the history of ever.

Even if a town player had this kind of confidence (which they should not), they still should not speak of it. But certainly a mafia player would have reason to speak of it. It will decelerate discussion, and keep players from thinking for themselves.


Two games ago our town lynched three mafia in three days to win a perfect game. So yea, go do some research m8
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 03:37 GMT
#702
On March 21 2018 11:58 Mocsta wrote:
Cool story bruh,

From 6 weeks ago.
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 01:40 Skynx wrote:
Vendée Globe 16' Mafia

[Flips]
Day1: mderg, as Mafia Framer
Night1: Trfel, as VT
Day2: rsoultin, as Mafia Goon
Night2: Mocsta, as VT
Day3: Damdred, as Mafia Roleblocker


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Nominating our town in Vendée Globe 16' as "best town performance"

we lynched mafia d1, d2, and d3 to win the game in three days. With epic shennanies onto scum D3!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia


Hell yeah baby. Hell yeah
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 03:41 GMT
#703
On March 21 2018 12:14 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 11:58 Mocsta wrote:
Cool story bruh,

From 6 weeks ago.
On February 02 2018 01:40 Skynx wrote:
Vendée Globe 16' Mafia

[Flips]
Day1: mderg, as Mafia Framer
Night1: Trfel, as VT
Day2: rsoultin, as Mafia Goon
Night2: Mocsta, as VT
Day3: Damdred, as Mafia Roleblocker


On February 14 2018 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Nominating our town in Vendée Globe 16' as "best town performance"

we lynched mafia d1, d2, and d3 to win the game in three days. With epic shennanies onto scum D3!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia

I hope you don't think that's supposed to be contrary evidence? I can confidently expect that mderg was a fuckup in that game.


LoL. Literally every mafia caught ever fucked up in some way because they were lynched or vigi shot.

What a meaningless semantics to prove your e-peen.

You might actually be Town this game because of how dull of yourself you are compared to last game. Either way you're contributing to toxicity
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 03:54 GMT
#706
On March 21 2018 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 00:32 Conversion wrote:
I read some filters.

I'll consolidate onto disform, only for the reason I have a nagging memory of someone explaining his scum play and feeling like it fits it. I'd have to meta dive for that, but that's annoying.

I don't think ykl is scum for whatever reason alakabanana slamma jamma man said. and I don't think anyone else being voted is scum. besides disform.


Had a few people call out this idea and have to agree with them. We really don't need to consolidate onto dis right now if you have a good read

vivax and hf called it out, yeh im not a big fan, not sure what this accomplishes.

Then again conversion has come back and qualified the statement. So just have to see what he comes back with.

I like rsoultin calling out slam a lot and pushing that vote.
pretty good list post. nothing to write home about but still a solid list

----

Dis list post and follow up - I have specific questions which I will ask in a seperate post

---

apparently I made df cry, I I will attempt to be nicer.
I disagree with what you said on rayn and rsoul. I can't blame you for being confused about my dis vote because I was tilted and shit posting. You do seem to just be parroting sentiment on noobking, have you had original thought? Still have you as scummy but i'm not building a case right now.



FF has rsoultin posting a lot? It's way down on what you would expect and vivax called out rsoultin for not posting enough. I'm not liking ff tbh

----

I'd probably have a lynch pool of

dis,exo,noob,slam,ff, df and moosy

does sicklucker not post d1 anymore?

obviously i need to narrow the list down but i'm good with that pool right now. I can't remember why i asked ticktock a question so hold on



On March 20 2018 19:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 19:36 Palmar wrote:
df's roleplaying is some of the worst I've ever seen.


yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided.

In terms of actual bad stuff. He liked a post that exo had made which wasn't that good.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:27 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


Looks like this chap 'ere as a 'ead on his shoulders


I can understand exo's defence of this post but I don't like the post in general.

he also leaves exo off his list of town afterwards

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:45 darthfoley wrote:
Chester Campbell believes he dun found some good folk to confide in as he rids the streets of petty 'n big boss crime.

The likes of Vivax, Alakaslam Mocsta and Conversion seem like good blokes, eager to help the coppers

Chester is keeping a wary eye out for any bad hombres


gives the impression that he doesn't really care who his town circle is and just wants to throw some names out.
I'd lynch him and not just to stop the terrible RP.


So Kelscier makes some post about me and how he doesn't want to build a case on me when he's been using any reason to scum read me. Chester actually agrees with n00bking that KSC scumreading Chester Campbell is just silly and excuse for a scum read.

Also him claiming that I have no original reads is factually inaccurate and just another excuse to throw shade at Chester Campbell. I'm one of the few people who isn't okay with rsoultin (btw did I just realize your name is "our sultan?") and Rayn.

Btw we should ban Rels for a couple games until he decides to play d1 again. Tired of this shit every game
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 03:55 GMT
#707
On March 21 2018 12:49 ExO_ wrote:
Still kinda want an explanation from KelsierSC regarding his initial disinfo vote. Really not satisfied with how he never gave me a proper answer as to his own reasoning for voting disinfo -- and again Koshi's quoting of Disinfo is not an explained reason.


Thanks for reminding me of the other point on KSC.

I didn't buy his explanation either. I'm tentatively gonna say you're Town
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 03:57 GMT
#708
Also KSC writes a lot about Conversion in that earlier post just to not give a read on him and not include him in the lynch list
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 03:58 GMT
#709
On March 21 2018 12:42 ExO_ wrote:
So far, getting really scummy feelings from rsoultin:

- Doesn't commit to a scum read except on slam (and even says doesn't expect other people to get it).
- Is okay with voting noob not because she thinks he's scum, but because his post makes her yawn? wtf reasoning is that.

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.

This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.

Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch.



Everything else rsoultin said came down to "tone". I don't know, I don't buy it. This rsoultin is very wishy washy and not the town-driving rsoultin I'd expect.

While I'm at it just general other reads from what little I've seen throughout the day via phone

HF - Town
Mocsta - Town

NK - Scummy


Okay dude we're mindmelding. I read that rsoultin yawn post at 6AM and I was gonna comment on it but I completely forgot until now.

Keep going hoss
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 04:04 GMT
#710
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.

This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.

[b]Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch[b].


Nvm this wasn't from 6AM.

Anyways the issue I had with the most is that rsoultin claims Nk isnt scum because he's SCUMMY(?) but because he makes her yawn.

But then the bolder paragraph feels like she's trying to justify her scumread on NK through the lens of him doing scummy things or being scummy... which she just said wasn't the basis of her read on NK.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 04:10 GMT
#713
It's like if I said

"I don't eat bananas because they're healthy, I eat them because they are yellow!"

Followed by an explanation of

"Indeed, bananas are yellow because they have lots of vitamins and minerals that will help you live a long and happy life. That's why I eat bananas. "

The explanation doesn't fit with why I stated that I eat bananas.

Expecting a town read from koshi and rayn for making a banana analogy.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 04:13 GMT
#716
On March 21 2018 13:04 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.

This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.

[b]Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch[b].


Nvm this wasn't from 6AM.

Anyways the issue I had with the most is that rsoultin claims Nk isnt scum because he's SCUMMY(?) but because he makes her yawn.

But then the bolder paragraph feels like she's trying to justify her scumread on NK through the lens of him doing scummy things or being scummy... which she just said wasn't the basis of her read on NK.



On March 21 2018 13:10 darthfoley wrote:
It's like if I said

"I don't eat bananas because they're healthy, I eat them because they are yellow!"

Followed by an explanation of

"Indeed, bananas are yellow because they have lots of vitamins and minerals that will help you live a long and happy life. That's why I eat bananas. "

The explanation doesn't fit with why I stated that I eat bananas.

Expecting a town read from koshi and rayn for making a banana analogy.

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 04:18 GMT
#718
On March 21 2018 13:14 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 12:41 darthfoley wrote:
On March 21 2018 12:14 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 11:58 Mocsta wrote:
Cool story bruh,

From 6 weeks ago.
On February 02 2018 01:40 Skynx wrote:
Vendée Globe 16' Mafia

[Flips]
Day1: mderg, as Mafia Framer
Night1: Trfel, as VT
Day2: rsoultin, as Mafia Goon
Night2: Mocsta, as VT
Day3: Damdred, as Mafia Roleblocker


On February 14 2018 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Nominating our town in Vendée Globe 16' as "best town performance"

we lynched mafia d1, d2, and d3 to win the game in three days. With epic shennanies onto scum D3!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia

I hope you don't think that's supposed to be contrary evidence? I can confidently expect that mderg was a fuckup in that game.


LoL. Literally every mafia caught ever fucked up in some way because they were lynched or vigi shot.

What a meaningless semantics to prove your e-peen.

I don't think I can bring myself to believe that you genuinely can't tell the difference between what I said, and "literally every mafia caught ever fucked up in some way." A scum player who gets lynched on D1 probably fucked up big, and their lynch is probably on them, and not creditable to super-awesome town play. A scum lynch on D1 is already statistically improbable, and then made all the more unlikely by the fact that (unlike most town players) they will have teammates who know they are on the team, and will actively work to keep them out of the Noose. A red flip on D1 should never be the expectation, and no one should be overly disappointed when it doesn't come. Therefore, when Mocsta says that even if Moosy is scum, there should be enough D1 content here to still lynch someone ELSE successfully too, that is really, really weird. But I could envision the mafia trying to lull the town into a false sense of security that "everything is going cool...you don't need to ask more questions....you don't need to do more thinking....we've got all this content...things are great...everyone just sit back and relax." The motivation for a TOWN player to say it? I dunno man, you tell me. I don't see it.


I agree that it is a weird thing to point out and one that I don't like.

IMO if you think moosy is mafia, you vote to lynch him. You don't "wait and see" if you truly believe he's mafia tbh.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 04:39 GMT
#728
On March 21 2018 13:33 Tictock wrote:
Quickly skimming through the posts I missed makes me want to bump up DF and Exo a spot in my last post.

Has Rels actually made it a thing of just not playing D1? If so that is indeed total shit.

As I’m (hopefully) falling asleep I’m wondering just how entertaining a Koshi vs Palmar EoD wagon would be.


Yea Rels comes in with like two hours to go every D1 in the last two years with some excuse
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 17:49 GMT
#1082
Need to catch up on 17 pages now.

If there are specific questions I need to respond, let me know. But 17 pages is a lot of content
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 21 2018 21:42 GMT
#1250
On March 22 2018 06:17 KelsierSC wrote:
last time df was mafia i called him out and he flung shit at me trying to call me scum , feels that way.

Plus he still has votes on me, trying to make me "uncomfortable" at this stage that's just bad.



Okay i'm back now after after-school meetings.

Dude I haven't "flung shit" at you. I address a couple of points why you I thought you were scum. I literally haven't been able to play all day; ever factor that into your assessment of why my vote is still on you? Believe me, my emotional state will be okay with you scumreading me. I'll get over it
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