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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2018 22:21 GMT
#578
I also agree with read on slam. Far too many coherent sentences and words.

The unvote post struck me as the most uncharacteristic. Just seems off. None of the sson, u see with the eyes of chupazi. The house of maroon thought you were svengali but now you're not.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2018 22:22 GMT
#580
If moosy is going to misbehave I'd rather just sit him in the naughty corner and ignore him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2018 22:31 GMT
#582
Thanks captain obvious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2018 23:32 GMT
#605
On March 21 2018 07:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
Thanks captain obvious.

Explain to me why the two people voting ksc are mafia


I don't even know who is voting kelsier.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2018 23:34 GMT
#606
On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
So... im in an odd predicament

(1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything
(2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought.

I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics:
Slam
Moosy
Ex0/KSC,
Koshi/Disfo/n00bking,
DF

Rest is probably side distractions.

My current (albeit loose) thoughts are:

Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar
Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy)
Below null pile (n00bking)

Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only.
Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said.
Slam I would still need to meta-dive.
DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on.
tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.
moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team.

Apologies to leave it like this.


As if I'm null while you simultaneously scum read noobking.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 00:00 GMT
#613
On March 21 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
So... im in an odd predicament

(1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything
(2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought.

I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics:
Slam
Moosy
Ex0/KSC,
Koshi/Disfo/n00bking,
DF

Rest is probably side distractions.

My current (albeit loose) thoughts are:

Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar
Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy)
Below null pile (n00bking)

Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only.
Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said.
Slam I would still need to meta-dive.
DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on.
tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.
moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team.

Apologies to leave it like this.


As if I'm null while you simultaneously scum read noobking.
Perhaps its the ply of your toilet paper, but you havent tickled me yet in the way a town HF normally tickles me.

I realise I don't know how a scum!HF tickles, but I have certainly seen the town tickle across the games this year.
Until I see a bit more of that magic around the game, you are still in my null pile.


Funny you mention it now. I'm using it and am thoroughly disappointed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 00:03 GMT
#615
Also post game when I have some time at a computer I am going to be a sad person and systematically dismantle noobking's "logic" posts if he is town because they are so deeply flawed.

I still think he's just mafia though. The last big post to me is re-stating exo nothingness, big post here is talking about mechanics. Don't know who he scum reads (apparently slam now (that "I saw it and then rsoultin did" post looks really unlikely)) because he never states it.

Whole lot of semantics really
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 00:11 GMT
#618
Are you an AI programmed to only talk in probabilities or what?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 08:47 GMT
#813
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 10:33 GMT
#886
On March 21 2018 18:44 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 18:20 rsoultin wrote:
of course, there's more mafia in the game even if I'm right on slam (and I think I probably am)

I don't have any context on whether it's suspicious for Alakaslam to think that "lazy mafia" are pushing him early game, instead of saving him to be mislynched late game.

I DO find it odd that he so confidently named me town in this game. When people voting against me (like HF and Moosy) say they're doing so on the basis that I'm playing the same as the last game. They're right, I'm playing the same as the last game, because I just played my town game for 95% of the last game. HF doesn't seem to know anything about my Town game, and doesn't care. He's just "blah blah, same as other game, blah."

Yet while I AGREE with the people voting against me that I'm playing the same as the last game, Alakaslam correctly labels me Town in this game, after all his "classic scum m8" crap from the previous game. Now yes, I pushed him off of his scumread on me in the prior game, and even had him voting against MY lynch target, eventually. But even so, the speed and accuracy of his townread on me here is cause for pause.

However, I can't help you lynch him, cuz then he'll OMGUS me, and then once Slam gives the go-ahead, Koshi will lynch me with the heat of a thousand suns. And then I flip town, and people are sad. :D

(In all seriousness, Slam is probably fine as a fallback option, with the likes of Rels. From your recent "remove from the lynch pool" list, the only one I disagree with is Rels. I would add to that "remove from the lynch pool" list by putting Tictock in it. I don't have any interest in lynching him. Oh, and me! I should be removed from it too. hehe. I also am not too excited about lynching Conversion, though he's been almost entirely useless, it seems. I can at least hope that he might be useful later. I can't hold out much hope for that in the case of like...Fecalfeast.)


Who isn't reading the thread? This guy ^.

Why is slam scummy for doing this when I can name 3 other people off the top of my head that have just done the exact same thing. Koshi, rsoultin just now, myself? If three other people can see it and two of those are ok and the other one is confirmed mafia siding town then what's different about slam seeing the same thing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 10:35 GMT
#889
On March 21 2018 18:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't want to start a counter wagon without knowing people were into it since it was so close to deadline. I saw sentiment there and pushed it hard.



Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.




Wasn't I town in this game??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 10:37 GMT
#894
On March 21 2018 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 18:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't want to start a counter wagon without knowing people were into it since it was so close to deadline. I saw sentiment there and pushed it hard.

https://youtu.be/cNgxyL5zEAk


On March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.




Wasn't I town in this game??


Nah nvm I was mafia. Think it was the game slam didn't vote and lost us the game :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 10:58 GMT
#911
He's not wrong. I'd more than happily argue semantics and logic with him. In fact I'm trying my hardest not to.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 11:00 GMT
#912
Disfo is in my scum pile I think. Not because I've read his posts - in fact I think he's said some things that align with what I've said - but because he hasn't waffled or said anything cool to me yet.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 11:26 GMT
#924
I am so lost basically. Not really been able to do anything other than skim.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 11:26 GMT
#925
I'm just gonna scum read the first people that called me town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 11:36 GMT
#930
Is my filter even good to be town read?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 11:44 GMT
#937
On March 21 2018 20:36 Holyflare wrote:
Is my filter even good to be town read?


Read it. It's not.

The hunt begins.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 13:25 GMT
#995
On March 21 2018 05:43 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 21 2018 00:32 Conversion wrote:
I read some filters.

I'll consolidate onto disform, only for the reason I have a nagging memory of someone explaining his scum play and feeling like it fits it. I'd have to meta dive for that, but that's annoying.

I don't think ykl is scum for whatever reason alakabanana slamma jamma man said. and I don't think anyone else being voted is scum. besides disform.


Had a few people call out this idea and have to agree with them. We really don't need to consolidate onto dis right now if you have a good read

vivax and hf called it out, yeh im not a big fan, not sure what this accomplishes.

Then again conversion has come back and qualified the statement. So just have to see what he comes back with.

I like rsoultin calling out slam a lot and pushing that vote.
pretty good list post. nothing to write home about but still a solid list

----

Dis list post and follow up - I have specific questions which I will ask in a seperate post

---

apparently I made df cry, I I will attempt to be nicer.
I disagree with what you said on rayn and rsoul. I can't blame you for being confused about my dis vote because I was tilted and shit posting. You do seem to just be parroting sentiment on noobking, have you had original thought? Still have you as scummy but i'm not building a case right now.


FF has rsoultin posting a lot? It's way down on what you would expect and vivax called out rsoultin for not posting enough. I'm not liking ff tbh

----

I'd probably have a lynch pool of

dis,exo,noob,slam,ff, df and moosy

does sicklucker not post d1 anymore?

obviously i need to narrow the list down but i'm good with that pool right now. I can't remember why i asked ticktock a question so hold on









Don't know what you're on about m8. Chester Campbell was but one of five blokes who said you were being angry and mean. Chester doesn't cry, he's a man's man.

Chester 'as 'ad quite a few original toughts. Not Chester's fault ye can't see what ye don't wish to see


Men are allowed to cry too. Quite good for mental health.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2018 13:32 GMT
#998
On March 21 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 22:25 Holyflare wrote:
On March 21 2018 05:43 darthfoley wrote:
On March 21 2018 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 21 2018 00:32 Conversion wrote:
I read some filters.

I'll consolidate onto disform, only for the reason I have a nagging memory of someone explaining his scum play and feeling like it fits it. I'd have to meta dive for that, but that's annoying.

I don't think ykl is scum for whatever reason alakabanana slamma jamma man said. and I don't think anyone else being voted is scum. besides disform.


Had a few people call out this idea and have to agree with them. We really don't need to consolidate onto dis right now if you have a good read

vivax and hf called it out, yeh im not a big fan, not sure what this accomplishes.

Then again conversion has come back and qualified the statement. So just have to see what he comes back with.

I like rsoultin calling out slam a lot and pushing that vote.
pretty good list post. nothing to write home about but still a solid list

----

Dis list post and follow up - I have specific questions which I will ask in a seperate post

---

apparently I made df cry, I I will attempt to be nicer.
I disagree with what you said on rayn and rsoul. I can't blame you for being confused about my dis vote because I was tilted and shit posting. You do seem to just be parroting sentiment on noobking, have you had original thought? Still have you as scummy but i'm not building a case right now.


FF has rsoultin posting a lot? It's way down on what you would expect and vivax called out rsoultin for not posting enough. I'm not liking ff tbh

----

I'd probably have a lynch pool of

dis,exo,noob,slam,ff, df and moosy

does sicklucker not post d1 anymore?

obviously i need to narrow the list down but i'm good with that pool right now. I can't remember why i asked ticktock a question so hold on









Don't know what you're on about m8. Chester Campbell was but one of five blokes who said you were being angry and mean. Chester doesn't cry, he's a man's man.

Chester 'as 'ad quite a few original toughts. Not Chester's fault ye can't see what ye don't wish to see


Men are allowed to cry too. Quite good for mental health.

Hey, do you buy the Rels read on me? Am I just being butthurt?


Unfortunately I've thought you've been a bit underwhelming but not particularly in a scummy way though.

Can see someone taking that as scummy.

Also I'm now scum reading disformation quite a bit. Went filter diving and the following issues arose:

Awkward entry into the game. No real reads till people started making them.

All the reads he makes aren't waffles they are hedges. Not the good kind of hedges either. They are hedges that lean in one direction where he 50/50s a person IN ALMOST EVERY POST but then gives really off brand meta reasons to say they're town or whatever to complete the hedge because it looks like he can't think of in game reasons to be wrong.

It's peculiar and scummy.
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