• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:26
CEST 10:26
KST 17:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202515Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced27BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Shield Battery Server New Patch BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 623 users

[M] Classic Mafia - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:32 GMT
#655
Oh I also need to note, due to my phone eating a post a few hours ago, that I'm tempted to step back from my Exo read. I felt like his interactions with KSC on pg 26, or summin, felt decently towny.

I'm gunna wait till I'm all caught up to decide if I want to move my vote or not though, if I do it would be to Noob atm.

Still don't think Dis is scum, not quite ready to call him town but I don't get scum vibes from him.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:39 GMT
#663
On March 21 2018 07:35 Palmar wrote:
Also ff is not trustworthy


I assume this is you calling FF scum?

I don't know who in their right mind would make any decision based on what FF says. Or why you would be worried that people might listen to FF for that matter.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:47 GMT
#666
On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:

tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.


?

I don't give a shit you temp scum read me (for pretty meh reasons), and I'm leaning town on you atm.

Got bigger fish bro.

I am surprised you agree with the notion of leaving Moosy off the lynch block today though. Not that he is my top scum read or dying to lynch him myself, but I do think he has a pretty good chance of being mafia at this point.

Idk, just weird to see multiple people take this "ignore Moosy" stance.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:50 GMT
#667
Eh, I should hold off posting till I'm all caught up.

Just finished pg 30 and now I'm less sure of my Moosy read >.<
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:51 GMT
#668
On March 21 2018 08:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hot take moose is actually town


Can't resist...

I'm creeped out by this mind-meld.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:03 GMT
#674
On March 21 2018 08:57 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2?

Here's a strategic decision that would be informed on D2 by knowing how many mafia the game started with: WHO TO LYNCH. If you know how many members of the mafia there are, you know how many kills they can execute. Then you can see if any are "missing." If you don't know how many to expect, then a healer doesn't know whether to have added trust toward the target he healed. A roleblocker or jailkeeper doesn't know whether to have added suspicion toward their own target. Circumstantial evidence yielded by the night results will very often outweigh whatever inclinations players previously had, about who "seemed" town and who "seemed" scummy. Instead of the pure guessing game of Day 1, you have hard data to work with...IF you know how many mafia members there are. So it's CRITICAL information. Unfortunately, the OP doesn't even give us a RANGE of possible answers. There's literally nothing keeping this from being an 11/9 setup at this point. Or 19/1.


Reasonable assumption that there are more than 3 mafia but less than 6(ok maybe 6 if town has quite a few PRs), why would you throw out the ridiculous #'s you did at the end of your post?

I agree with HF, this shit you keep posting just feels like arguing for the sake of arguing. Nothing I have seen from you looks like actual scum hunting, or at least all your arguing seems to have given you no leads as you seem content to have sheeped koshi 4 hours into the game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:08 GMT
#675
On March 21 2018 09:17 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 07:59 Mocsta wrote:
On March 21 2018 07:54 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:36 Palmar wrote:
df's roleplaying is some of the worst I've ever seen.

yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided.

Don't really agree, personally. How does the persona help him hide, if how annoying it is becomes a topic of conversation? I also haven't known scum players to normally be bored enough that they have to do anything like inventing a persona, in order to keep themselves entertained. Drawing a scum role should never be boring, it's pulling a town role that's boring. (I believe someone already said early in this thread that they pulled a town role and it's boring.) I haven't seen many people invent a role like this for themselves, but when they have, they've been town (and then they've been asked to cut it out, much like what's been happening to darthfoley here.) So while we mostly agree that it doesn't point too strongly in either direction, if *I* had to pick I would say it is more of a town indicator.
This monologue is pointless - as both of you are debating YOUR values on how to play the game. Not what Darthfoley is actually doing with the roleplay.

What is that even supposed to mean? He's not doing anything with the roleplay. Roleplay doesn't DO anything. The discussion is of whether the use of roleplay is scum-indicative or town-indicative. Kelsier thought scum would be more likely to "hide" by making a persona. I asked how the persona is supposed to help him hide, when I think the opposite is actually true, and that it draws attention. And when I say that it's something I've seen from Town but not from Scum, that has nothing to do with my "values on how to play the game." It's just real-world, lived experience.


Lol, you literally answered your own question, ya know?

Scum: I'm gunna do weird shit, kus only town does weird shit!

Noobking: Wow, look at that townie, doing weird shit...

Scum: Success!
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:12 GMT
#676
On March 21 2018 09:47 n00bKing wrote:
I'm the last person who needs the rules and roles quoted to me. As shown in the order of operations, the mafia roleblock would be enforced before a vigilante shot. And there is exactly no reason for you to assume they do not have a roleblocker. Or a jailkeeper.

So let's all just hope you're not a town vigilante. Because if you are, you've done a very stupid thing.


I will agree with NK here.

From OP
- The following roles can be used and can be of any alignment: Veteran, Roleblocker, Doctor, Jailkeeper, Role Cop, Vanilla Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Vigilante, Vanilla.


However, I think we are overlooking something important here.

Mocsta just dumb-telled himself town!
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:18 GMT
#678
On March 21 2018 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 09:53 Conversion wrote:
funny you mention skill because if you’re town you’re the one getting scum read, not me

but you’re scum and it’s really cute that you try to quantify skill at a forum mafia game as literally no one thinks you’re good LOL

I just wanted to point out I really hate this type of post from people.


Who cares Moosy, you never listen when other people tell you they hate what you do.
On March 21 2018 05:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:32 Tictock wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


Stop doing this moosy.

You've done it as town and as scum last game, also it is against the rules of the game. It literally means nothing and is a waste of space.

##Vote:MoosyDoosy

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:23 GMT
#681
On March 21 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:29 Tictock wrote:
Almost caught up. Well still ~5 pages behind, but home now and got everything that was distracting me out of the way.

@ KSC
Right now I am fairly comfortable calling you, Rayn, Vivax, and HF town. Nothing great as to why, just level of effort, tone, and investedness from you guys makes it fairly likely you are all town. At the very least I think you are all off the table for lynch today.

I am also fairly convinced Moosy is scum. He is the read I mentioned awhile ago.

Basically Moosy's mood has done a complete 180 from his initial bit of spam, which was more in line with what I'd expect from a town!Moosy. As far as I can tell he forced his initial bit of spam to make some kind of effort, but really can't be bothered to play scum twice in a row.

His latest bouts of posts are more emo shit, and his scum list at the end of pg 28 is just OMGUS. I'd expect a town!Moosy to be happy and at least a bit trolly for having rolled Town this game, but I just see a disgruntled person reluctantly playing.

I didn't want to post this read earlier as there is clearly something going on with Moosy given his /out and somewhat reluctant re/in, but I'm betting it was just fear of rolling scum in this large of a game having just lost as scum.

This post is almost correct except I enjoy playing Mafia and I hate playing VT

Actually scrap that. Tictock's post is complete garbage like Mocsta's earlier post on me. Both have no idea what the point of my activity at the start of the game was and why my list is the way it is.


I remember there was a time I enjoyed playing with you...

This game I kinda want you vigged.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:34 GMT
#686
Being Ignored still hurt my feelings

W/e, I'm thinking Moosy is probably town and feel like there is a decent chance FF is as well.

What I'm now wondering is how Rayn called Moosy town so early.

Also swapping my vote to Noob.

Oh and, I'm caught up.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:44 GMT
#689
Eh I was more venting than getting angry with you Moosy.

I'm gunna take a short break then come back and look over people who I don't have a town-lean on and see if I can spot any other potential mafia.

For the record, I still think Exo could easily be scum but I'm less certain now. I also feel it is more worthwhile to lynch Noob who consistently has an opinion about what town/mafia SHOULD do, yet can't seem to do anything that tangibly helps town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:47 GMT
#691
On March 21 2018 11:38 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:35 Mocsta wrote:
I have no desire to argue with a scum read. Its pointless for the spectators.

It's hugely important for the spectators, if you actually have ANY designs on seeing me lynched. Players get lynched and not lynched based on what spectators think of the arguments between them.
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:35 Mocsta wrote:
The only comment I will make is that #652 reads like a classic scum "what have i done wrong" post.

lol, oh no no no no no. By no means did I ask "what have I done wrong?" I know there is not something I've done wrong. I instead only listed things I've done that contribute to seeing my targets receive pressure, and things I've done that contribute to an atmosphere consistent with a town victory.



Seriusly dude, what have you done besides argue with everyone and call yourself great?

I can't recall any reads from you. You whine that we don't know how many mafia there are and throw out insane numbers of potential mafia.

How are you helping create a positive atmosphere for town?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 04:13 GMT
#715
Bah, don't have as much time as I would have liked after showering/getting rdy for bed.

I dislike not having any posts from Rels or Sicklucker, but I agree with Rsoul (?) that it is a bad idea to lynch them as it is kinda a waste and at best a coinflip.

I don't want to lynch (in no particular order) Holyflare + Show Spoiler +
Seems invested, digging at things that catch his attn, has attitude
, Mocsta + Show Spoiler +
pushing his reads, checking filters/meta, forgot about his post restriction kus he got into the game, dumbtell
, Vivax + Show Spoiler +
Agressive and involved play, have agreed with/had similar thought process
, raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +
honestly less sure about rayn atm (moosy thing and having a hard time recalling what he has done without double checking), but potentially strong town who gave me town vibes earlier
, KelsierSC + Show Spoiler +
quite active and pushing his reads, has multiple times shown eagerness to question things to get a better understanding
.

I probably wouldn't lynch these people (weak-leaning town), Conversion + Show Spoiler +
several of his posts showed a fire in them I don't expect from mafia, I remember liking his response to early pressure
, rsoultin + Show Spoiler +
potentially strong town, felt a bit off but prob just kus I disagreed with early slam read
, disformation + Show Spoiler +
probably just have a soft spot for him kus we started playing here around the same time, but nothing has really struck me as scummy
, Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
dat mind-meld, he reacted exactly the same way I did to a few of Moosy's posts


Jury is out on these folks, Alakaslam + Show Spoiler +
had good vibes from him early, has dropped off. Head says he could easily be mafia, gut wants to town read him still
, darthfoley + Show Spoiler +
really low impact, sorta agreed with a couple of his posts
, ykl + Show Spoiler +
can't remember if he has posted at all recently nor much of what he did early on tbh, didn't get any scum vibes off him though and kinda just want to see more


Probably mafia in: ExO_ + Show Spoiler +
Other than the interaction with KSC, haven't seen anything to change my early read
, n00bking + Show Spoiler +
Claims to be invaluable but seems to do nothing but argue
, Palmar + Show Spoiler +
Almost no read on him, but I feel like he is lacking the fire and passion I have seen from Palmar before
, Koshi + Show Spoiler +
If he has posted anything since the start of this phase it left no impact, very un-Koshi-like


Bleh, guess this became basically just a list post. Was hoping to organize my thoughts better, and I'm not super happy with where I am kus there are a ton of people I would like to filter.

I will not be doing that though as I am not tryharding this game and I will prob only have time to catchup before deadline. I'm fine with any lynch as long as it's someone if my "joury's out" or "prob mafia" list.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 04:33 GMT
#725
Quickly skimming through the posts I missed makes me want to bump up DF and Exo a spot in my last post.

Has Rels actually made it a thing of just not playing D1? If so that is indeed total shit.

As I’m (hopefully) falling asleep I’m wondering just how entertaining a Koshi vs Palmar EoD wagon would be.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 21:17 GMT
#1215
I just got off a 9 hour shift with no breaks kus my place refuses to schedule enough people.

Going to speak with my managers in a few kus I’m fed up with shit and am pretty close to quitting.

So I am rather disctracted today and am unlikely to do anything related to this game till tonight.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 22 2018 00:41 GMT
#1513
Skimmed through EoD and it looks like most people went pretty pants on head.

I don’t even understand why Rels got lynched? All I saw was Rsoul shouting “lynch Rels” without mentioning whatever scummy thing he did that made her switch from her earlier “Rels is a bad D1 lynch” stance.

I also noticed Noobking wasting his vote on a totally null slot that got replaced and take no stances on the other wagons.

Apparently I have almost 40 pages to catch up on and I’m still pretty demoralized from my shit day/life. No promises.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 22 2018 02:02 GMT
#1525
On March 22 2018 10:42 Mocsta wrote:
i dunno vivax

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=Tictock&view=all
its actually a pretty shite filter.
lots of fence-sitting, lots of apologies

sorta like the guy wearing the hand-glove below.
not just shouting from the sidelines, but shouting @ the people shouting from the sidelines...
[image loading]



I'm actually the kid in the corner.

As such I'm gunna leave this game for awhile longer and treat myself to some icecream (well actually a fruit and kale smoothie, but I'll put some ice cream in that). + Show Spoiler +
Honestly I just can't be bothered to read what I missed from like page 37-70 tonight, but I'll probably read the little bit that comes in tonight


Also what does my filter have to do with Palmar's alignment?

If he is scum, I am prob looking like an easy target to push atm.

If he is town, I've done shit all in the past 24 hours and have basically just posted excuses as to why.

Hell we could even both be scum and I told him to bus me kus I just can't be bothered atm.

I'd like to hear about it if you think Palmar is town, kus everything I have seen from him this game is weaksuace.

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 22 2018 14:16 GMT
#1689
On March 22 2018 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, rsoultin, Moosydoosy, Kelsier, darthfoley.


Assuming this is a scum list, what made you change your mind about Moosy?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 22 2018 14:18 GMT
#1690
Never mind, I was just not reading apparently.

Going back to not posting till I’ve actually read stuff.
I can take that responsibility.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Creator 87
Nina 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1879
Nal_rA 494
Soma 304
ggaemo 252
Killer 205
PianO 137
Leta 107
JulyZerg 75
Aegong 67
sorry 50
[ Show more ]
Sacsri 46
Backho 44
Free 32
EffOrt 32
soO 28
Sharp 28
GoRush 27
Bale 14
sSak 11
Hm[arnc] 0
Dota 2
XcaliburYe223
BananaSlamJamma178
ODPixel110
League of Legends
JimRising 414
febbydoto5
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K787
olofmeister393
Super Smash Bros
Westballz40
Other Games
summit1g11187
ceh9611
SortOf116
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1044
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta42
• Light_VIP 41
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota251
League of Legends
• Stunt1120
• HappyZerGling164
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 35m
WardiTV European League
7h 35m
PiGosaur Monday
15h 35m
OSC
1d 4h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 7h
The PondCast
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.