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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 20:32 GMT
#1156
Oh yeah, I thought his frustration to Moosy was genuine.
On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

On March 20 2018 11:19 Conversion wrote:
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On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


You can't vote for yourself, buddy

On March 20 2018 11:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On March 20 2018 11:19 Conversion wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


You can't vote for yourself, buddy

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

On March 20 2018 11:21 Conversion wrote:
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Voting rules:
  1. Voting is mandatory.

  2. Use the following format (##vote: Calix or ##unvote) when posting your vote in the voting thread.

  3. You cannot vote for yourself.

  4. Votes that are not in the correct format will not be counted.

  5. Votes that are hidden in spoilers are not allowed and will not be counted.

  6. Plurality lynch is in effect. In the case of a tie, the person who reached the highest number of votes first will be lynched.





+ Show Spoiler +



You cannot vote for yourself.





+ Show Spoiler +
YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 20:38 GMT
#1163
On March 22 2018 05:27 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?user=Mocsta&view=all

Talking only about this ?
On January 21 2018 09:06 Mocsta wrote:
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On January 21 2018 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
Would like to shoot mocsta 200% though
yea im the vet hf

2 shots pls

Or is there something else ? Cause that is pretty different, in this other game it was clearly a jab, in this current game he's quoting the rules and shit.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 20:42 GMT
#1168
Like for me, he's commited here, he has his "scum has no RB" thing and all to justify his claim:
On March 21 2018 07:37 Mocsta wrote:
btw, rsoultin, i woke up today and filter dived ppl like moosy/rels/sicklucker etc before reading the thread.
So when I spoke to Moosy about trolling etc that was without knowledge of you on p28.

Now that I have caught up: I like the mindmeld. Not specifically the action, but rather, the tone. Welcome to my hard town circle.

Palmar, im the vig btw.
Dont care to say it because mafia dont have a RB.

On March 21 2018 09:01 Mocsta wrote:
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On March 21 2018 08:57 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2?

Here's a strategic decision that would be informed on D2 by knowing how many mafia the game started with: WHO TO LYNCH. If you know how many members of the mafia there are, you know how many kills they can execute. Then you can see if any are "missing." If you don't know how many to expect, then a healer doesn't know whether to have added trust toward the target he healed. A roleblocker or jailkeeper doesn't know whether to have added suspicion toward their own target. Circumstantial evidence yielded by the night results will very often outweigh whatever inclinations players previously had, about who "seemed" town and who "seemed" scummy. Instead of the pure guessing game of Day 1, you have hard data to work with...IF you know how many mafia members there are. So it's CRITICAL information. Unfortunately, the OP doesn't even give us a RANGE of possible answers. There's literally nothing keeping this from being an 11/9 setup at this point. Or 19/1.
Know this. Im vig, and if you arent lynched Day1.
You still wont be around Day2.

On March 21 2018 09:42 Mocsta wrote:
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On March 21 2018 09:34 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 09:01 Mocsta wrote:
On March 21 2018 08:57 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2?

Here's a strategic decision that would be informed on D2 by knowing how many mafia the game started with: WHO TO LYNCH. If you know how many members of the mafia there are, you know how many kills they can execute. Then you can see if any are "missing." If you don't know how many to expect, then a healer doesn't know whether to have added trust toward the target he healed. A roleblocker or jailkeeper doesn't know whether to have added suspicion toward their own target. Circumstantial evidence yielded by the night results will very often outweigh whatever inclinations players previously had, about who "seemed" town and who "seemed" scummy. Instead of the pure guessing game of Day 1, you have hard data to work with...IF you know how many mafia members there are. So it's CRITICAL information. Unfortunately, the OP doesn't even give us a RANGE of possible answers. There's literally nothing keeping this from being an 11/9 setup at this point. Or 19/1.
Know this. Im vig, and if you arent lynched Day1.
You still wont be around Day2.

lol, right, right. You're the Vigilante, and the scum do not have a roleblocker. Since you've already informed us that the scum don't have a roleblocker, could you please go ahead and tell us which roles they DO have? Would it be safe to assume they have...a Vigilante?
Indeed, as we are all aware they have a very special vigilante.
But how about instead of inferring; you put the cock on the block and state my alignment.

FYI in general:
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On March 15 2018 21:25 Calix wrote:
Game Mechanics

- Order of Operations: Mafia roleblocks -> town roleblocks -> heals -> mafia/ vigilante kills -> investigations -> other


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On March 15 2018 21:25 Calix wrote:
Mafia-exclusive Role PMs

Backup [role]:

When a specific PR of any alignment dies, you take on their role.

This ability is passive and cannot be roleblocked.

If that role had limited abilities that were spent, you are not refunded these abilities.

If you are role-copped after you have taken on a role, you will appear as that role.

Strongman:

If you target a player for the night kill, your shot pierces through all protection.

This includes roleblocks, jails, and heals.


On March 22 2018 01:15 Mocsta wrote:
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On March 22 2018 01:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well then i scumread mocsta and am pocketed by hf.

Why is disfo more scum than nk, sheepdog hf?
im vigging you bbygurl

If there is another vig he will just shoot him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 20:44 GMT
#1172
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.

can I have a special Palmar tone read on rsoul filter ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 20:46 GMT
#1177
On March 22 2018 05:45 Palmar wrote:
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On March 22 2018 05:44 Rels wrote:
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.

can I have a special Palmar tone read on rsoul filter ?

She called you mafia so that's a good thing

not really TBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 20:49 GMT
#1181
On March 22 2018 05:47 Palmar wrote:
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On March 22 2018 05:46 Rels wrote:
On March 22 2018 05:45 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 05:44 Rels wrote:
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.

can I have a special Palmar tone read on rsoul filter ?

She called you mafia so that's a good thing

not really TBH

No I'm a fan of it. I'm like 30 pages behind but I've read some stuff on my phone and such today and I think I recall you coming into the thread and calling me mafia, then calling her mafia, then assuming she was soft busing me or some utter complete bullshit.

So no, I'm fine with her calling you mafia.

the soft claim was to explain how I could have you and her at the same time 'cause she attacked me on that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 20:55 GMT
#1189
On March 22 2018 05:51 Palmar wrote:
yeah but obviously that's bullshit, so maybe you just admit I'm town now?

lol we'll see when you do something
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 21:55 GMT
#1273
On March 21 2018 03:00 darthfoley wrote:
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On March 20 2018 21:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:33 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:22 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
[quote]

disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.


Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.

What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?


I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.

I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.

I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.

##Vote: disinformation


This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote....

I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him.


koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote.

I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too.

I can see you are not reading "super closely" again.

but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful.


On March 20 2018 10:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote:
just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range.

##vote disformation

It's ok. You tried.


You're trying to brush me off, but this quote doesn't look like much of a reason to me.


ok then don't vote and talk about something else.

Honestly you are either scum or town with zero reading comprehension so you aren't that important.



+ Show Spoiler +
Just gonna let you know that you've been toxic as hell this whole game and you should probably stop

This is the post that makes me think DF is town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 21:56 GMT
#1275
I like the irony of DF calling me out for not playing D1 earlier, but now he's being pushed for that reason
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 22:17 GMT
#1318
On March 22 2018 07:12 disformation wrote:
*takes deep breath*
I think rels being on a shitty solo wagon is more town for him. I think I recall one of the games where he came in close to deadline, voted on a dead wagon, got lynched for it and was town vig. think that was the one with hf/koshi/palmar scum.

so mocsta or df.

I don't think it's a shitty wagon though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 22:39 GMT
#1383
On March 22 2018 07:36 Mocsta wrote:
Hi HF

I am not a lawyer, so hopefully context is good

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
Hasn't really pushed anything that I can actually remember.
Conjecture or falsification, your honour

Show nested quote +
Says he followed the noobking scum read because he looked the same as last game.

When noobking stopped displaying the same things as last game Mocsta decided to go anti that read and say noobking was just the same still.
Objection: Leading the Witness

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Despite Mocsta's original read on noobking being a sheep from ME and also his scum read on someone else being a sheep from ME he keeps referencing how he minorly nothing reads me or some useless crap.
And? Can I not be wary of you. P.S. you still haven't leaped into the mode where I consider you town.

Show nested quote +
Not once does he attribute anything I've said to lynching his biggest scum read as me being any alignment.
Objection. This is applicable to almost every individual in the game. Strawman...

Show nested quote +
He made a really shit fake claim like he did in the last mafia game. And no, it wasn't the one that Rels posted it was some role that wouldn't exist in the game that people STILL believed and was ludicrous.
LOL thats true. but why does it make me mafia this game.

Show nested quote +
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Noted.

so your claim was BS ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 22:40 GMT
#1387
On March 22 2018 07:38 KelsierSC wrote:
voting is pretty interesting here, Im tempted to vote mocsta because if he flips scum then like most of the scum are on this conversion vote.

Moosy jumping on it at the end is really fucking dumpster.


that's definitely my preferred lynch out of all the current options
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 22:44 GMT
#1403
##Unvote
##Vote Mocsta
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 22:51 GMT
#1436
On March 22 2018 07:50 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 22 2018 07:50 ykl wrote:
Ehh, I don't really like the other lynch choices up right now so I'll go with darthfoley


Took you four minutes to formulate this sentence did it?

this is so shit. This is a newbie coming in a super hard to read situation.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 22:58 GMT
#1473
On March 22 2018 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:57 Mocsta wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:55 Mocsta wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:52 Mocsta wrote:
Wow.. i cant believe I might be mislynched here.

umm, dunno what to say.
i should have stuck to my post restriction, too much information put into thread, its hard to see what my final position is.

OK, so for clarity.
Im really concerned this game that a bunch of non-contributors could lead a wagon.
Town really need to stop being selfish and work together around someone.

I think a good core is rsoultin / Rayn / Kelsier.

At least those are 3 of my most trusted reads that are capable of good logic.



If I flip, please trust me that Slam is very unlikely to be scum.
It should be sorta simple to filter-dive. I will leave it as that.

I have no reason to doubt Disfo vet claim. I would have preferred he just said blue. but yet, i dont expect him to be a "best play" king either.

OK thats it. Good luck.



this

doesn't

even

say

anything

??????
Stop the propaganda Will
You are meant to be better than this.


It's not fucking propaganda, you literally just gave 0 scum reads as a "farewell" post. ZERO.

yep. But more than that, rsoul attitude is not solving the game. She's 100% scum. Being mean to the newbie make no sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2018 23:00 GMT
#1480
I don't play D1, I get flamed.
I play badly D1 because I hate it, I get lynched.
GL HF
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