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ExO_
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On March 20 2018 19:15 Palmar wrote: I have no reservations about lynching people on day 1 who are intentionally not playing like Koshi I agree with this, except I swear Koshi does shit like this every game I play with him and seems more hostile when he’s town | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On March 20 2018 17:39 KelsierSC wrote: For exo himself, I do have a scum lean I guess I would want to know if his read on me has changed. Some of exo's posts seem plausible like his defence of his moosy read was possibly ok..im rambling on this. This is the main quote I'm referring to. This post reads to me like you want to know my opinion of you so you can then either scum read me if I still scum read you, or town read me if I town read you. And I'm not leaving myself a backdoor to come after you later. But I'm not committing to you be a firm town or firm scum at this point. I'm leaning town on you now based on your more recent posts -- however it's hard for me to shake my early impressions of you. I have a really bad history of tunneling based on early reads though and I'm aware of it, so I'm trying to improve my own play. | ||
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ExO_
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ExO_
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On March 20 2018 20:31 Palmar wrote: To clarify, I agree that the read by exo is stupid and shouldn't be made. I also agree with noobking (and hf?) that exo's read doesn't directly push any mafia agenda. Aka, Exo might very well be mafia, but that read is at best a mistake then, it's not some kind of a slam dunk case that he must be. Townies are more prone to do stupid shit than mafia. Like I don't hate ticktock's vote, i'm fine with some pressure on Exo ......At the time I made the read, HF hadn't made a single post of more than a sentence. Thus I thought she probably couldn't care less about furthering the discussion therefore she was likely scum, or vanilla town annoyed she doesn't have a role. I wasn't saying this based off a deep understanding of Holy Flare, but in a more general sense. I do know that I've played a few games with HF and she seemed more active in pushing town than she did thus far in this game when I posted that. That has sense changed, but at the time I posted I felt like HF had to be either VT or scum | ||
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ExO_
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ExO_
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On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote: I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem. I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing. I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort. ##Vote: disformation More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote: disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100% But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote: he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis. Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided. What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)? | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote: I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment. I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that. I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote. ##Vote: disinformation This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote.... I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him. | ||
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ExO_
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On March 20 2018 21:30 KelsierSC wrote: koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote. I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too. I can see you are not reading "super closely" again. but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful. You're trying to brush me off, but this quote doesn't look like much of a reason to me. | ||
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ExO_
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"it's ok. You tried" some sort of profound reason I just don't see | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On March 20 2018 21:35 KelsierSC wrote: ok then don't vote and talk about something else. Honestly you are either scum or town with zero reading comprehension so you aren't that important. I don't think attacking me makes sense here. If I'm missing something, instead of antagonizing me show me: where is Koshi's reason for his vote? I certainly don't see it in his filter -- quoting disinfo and saying "it's okay you tried" isn't offering any reasoning or explanation at all. You clearly think disinfo is worthy of a vote here, and Koshi was the first person to vote Disinfo and you've established you believe Koshi has a reason you agree with, I would like that explained to me, because I don't see it at all. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On March 20 2018 21:44 KelsierSC wrote: Koshi quotes then votes in the same post. Huge leap of logic to assume Koshi doesn't like the post that he quoted. I don't like it either so I voted dis. If you are fine with the post then don't vote and contribute something else. I would try and explain in more detail but you have already said you don't read the thread and just try to bury people rather than read their explanations.. The problem I have here is that I don't think this came up organically. I brought up the fact that NK voted Disinfo with Koshi without providing a reason (and I still don't believe quoting one sentence from Disinfo is remotely a good enough reason to vote him without further explanation). You then provided a potential reason why NK might have voted Disinfo -- I said he didn't provide this reasoning though, and you double down by voting Disinfo yourself. It feels wrong to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but this makes me think you are scum with NK. ##Vote:KelsierSC | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On March 20 2018 22:21 Vivax wrote: Some thoughts I feel like sharing in inconclusive post manner. - Almost purely tonally TT and NK look town to me. - rsoultin hasn't been pestering anyone and might be mafia for it. - Did anyone hijack Kelsiers account? Don't even want to decide what he is as long as he keeps posting. - Koshi probably town for not giving a shit so far, will have confirmation when the town Koshi trademark posts start to pour in. - ykl very diplomatic, could come from mafia, currently stuck deciding whether he's just catering to the people he answers to. However his filter leads me to Mocstas for this reason: + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote: Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out? I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable. n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. I think it's odd here that Mocsta pays attention to the TMI element in the #232 post he links in the nested quote and emphasizes it when ykl said he doesn't think either are scum already which implies that there is at least a null read, I also didn't like Mocstas post on TT. It was cute style-wise but also read like plain rhetoric without much substance cause the entire point was to ping TT for the sole reason that he hadn't been pinged yet. I'd have found the part more interesting where he says: Bolded is pretty much an example of a"let me go and look for something to write about on the go" mindset, but in a natural way. I think this particular case comes from town cause he's so brazen about it. Scum does it more accidentally. To have the post actually end conclusively though, I need to point out something else and why I still think we should lynch ExO: I believe it's a very mafia thing to do to point at what the guy pressuring you isn't doing while he is busy with you, cause it's a way of getting rid of pressure by trying to play it back to him based on the posting quantity of said person. I could just omgus, but that’s not really gonna help town now is it? I’ve been bad about this in the past. However I can’t help but notice you offer nothing new here. I’ve posted a lot, take the above for example — do you have no thoughts on this exchange between myself and keisler? Asking you your thoughts on other players and do something other than insist “lynch ExO” isn’t scum indicative. If you wanna tunnel me fine — offer something else too. Calling everyone town and only looking at me as scum isn’t productive in my opinion | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
Gonna quickly browse over for 15-30 minutes but then i'm off to bed. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
- Doesn't commit to a scum read except on slam (and even says doesn't expect other people to get it). - Is okay with voting noob not because she thinks he's scum, but because his post makes her yawn? wtf reasoning is that. On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote: Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn. This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong. Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch. Everything else rsoultin said came down to "tone". I don't know, I don't buy it. This rsoultin is very wishy washy and not the town-driving rsoultin I'd expect. While I'm at it just general other reads from what little I've seen throughout the day via phone HF - Town Mocsta - Town NK - Scummy | ||
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ExO_
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ExO_
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Also, awake now! | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
Maybe it's OMGUS a little bit, but you look like scum tunneling your one read (similar to what rsoultin was doing until she was called out for it last night by me/DF). Again I ask do you have any other scum read, and what's the reason for them? Or is it just "ignore all ExO's posts, I'm going to call him scum without reading his posts all day" day | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On March 21 2018 15:23 Vivax wrote: I'm currently thinking mafia are rsoultin, HF, ExO. HF read largely depending on NKs flip if we get that but I suspect shenannies today. Fefe and Palmar are kind of my lower tier suspects . Disfo and rayn nullish and kind of reserved to be looked at later. Didn't look at much of what df has posted so far so got to keep him null for now. Skimming him makes me think he might be doing the rp thingy to conceal a lack of passion in his posts which is what sticks out to me on the go, but I'm also going to hedge on this one for now. That's pretty much it when I disregard SL and Rels. I also might be being too generous with not considering Koshi and Moosy but I don't really see a benefit for them in playing like they do if they are mafia which is rather feather ruffling. I don't usually mention that many big names on a D1 for suspects but when it's so many of them I almost have no choice if I want to tell everyone where my head is at. I will only be casing ExO among them today though, maybe FF as well. I explained what made me suspicious of rso already and in regards to HF it's pretty much about the way he's going after NK. Should he flip town at some point I'll start casing HF, if NK flips mafia I can abandon that suspicion for a good while. Are you referring to this post Vivax? Because I don't think there was this much content in this post. You basically said "here are some people and I kinda maybe not really think they might be scum" before going back to spending every post hard tunneling me. | ||
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