Let me be clear i am not going to vote for Koshi here, if you guys wanna lynch him you can do it without me with all the other town people on him. Maybe you're right and i am wrong but i don't think i am and i am going to trust myself. So there is that.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 27 2018 07:50 GMT

#3442

Anyways it's already 11 am and i need to sleep.

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Finland43268 Posts

March 27 2018 07:53 GMT

#3445

He can be mafia vig but yeah basically you're correct because he isn't mafia.

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Finland43268 Posts

March 27 2018 23:04 GMT

#3661

I tried so hard.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 27 2018 23:07 GMT

#3669

I am sad noone wanted to lynch mafia with me. Or am i?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 27 2018 23:09 GMT

#3680

I am a bit mad you guys refused to win thee game last night. All we had to do is block rsoultin....

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 27 2018 23:10 GMT

#3685

On March 28 2018 08:09 darthfoley wrote:
4 town modkills is really oof. Nothing Calix could do but... oof. Idk what would've happened without them.

You would have prolly lynched them all.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 27 2018 23:17 GMT

#3704

I am happy i could for once work with Palmar in a mafia team. Thank you.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 27 2018 23:18 GMT

#3706

On March 28 2018 08:16 Half the Sky wrote:
reading mafia qt.....

rayn /m173 "Hey guys! We are gonna win this game Chezinu style. Let's kill all players from up -> down in the playerlist!"

wow.....

you guys had way too much fun (and whisky??) in there

I tried but they went and shot TT. Pffffff...

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 03:48 GMT

#3760

I still have no idea how noobking got lynched D2.
Well okay aside from the baby seals but afaik it was pretty set in stone at that point already.

Also one thing that was terrible in this setup was scum rb not being able to target same person on consecutive nights. Another thing that was terrible is that JK is super terrible role for mafia compared to rb because you can't shoot the same person you block, especially with the consecutive nights thing it becomes even more terrible and i almost stopped playing instantly when i saw our roleset. Backup JK makes it even worse because i can't even ever claim as if coag/sicklucker ever flips i am always confirmed mafia.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 04:31 GMT

#3761

ill submit:

rayn kill: rsoultin
rayn jail: mocsta
palmar kill: tictock
palmar watch: mocsta

and watch the thread. think mocsta just posted some stuff on you... maybe tina changes her opinion again

Uh.. disformation. Aside from not jailing rsoultin why were we even jailing and watching the same guy?

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Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 04:57 GMT

#3763

Vivax
03-25-2018
04:04 PM ET (US)
N00bking reminds me a bit of gumshoe

lol never,.,,

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 05:14 GMT

#3768

Mocsta, i really felt like this game you called everyone who disagreed with you either bad or scum and refused to contribute with them until i said that on the last day (and still you didn't listen to me :p). The fact is i always had the right reasons to scumread disformation and while obviously i didn't push it to the extent (i probably wouldn't even as town since i am terrible at reading him) he never really did anything with his reads or well.. witl anything he said. If i was town i would have probably gone demotivated "fuck you" mode especially after rsoutlin died.It was not only me, it was also with other players who were actually town.

I have honestly no idea where TT got his read on me because everything he said was wrong. My moosy read for example was really easy to find, here;

On March 20 2018 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because ha cannot work with incomplete information which results in this.

At this point Moosy had posted all the first page of the game and then basically just trolled. Which is in line of his town play since he has no clue what to do, especially early on, when working with incomplete information. Obviously i didn't care if you think i am mafia with him at that point. The other points you also made were very wrong, like sheeping Koshi and Vivax, when i specifically had never sheeped Koshi and my whole "read" on Vivax was even after he died "super paranoid -> wrong -> can't convince anyone", i never even entertained any of the reads Vivax had so i have no idea where you got that stuff.

It was funny df scumread me for being boring and not doing what he thinks is boring at the same time...

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 05:16 GMT

#3769

On March 28 2018 14:08 rsoultin wrote:
if i have as many doubts on rayn as i did this game again i'm going to know not to dismiss it as paranoid in future lol ><

I will tell you a secret, after, or well starting from 1-day mafia i have been playing mostly against you when i am mafia aka breaking my meta because i am not sure what i can get away with and not with you the most.

I am so rude.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 05:18 GMT

#3770

Well not really breaking my meta but trying to break it and it seems to be working.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 05:22 GMT

#3771

On March 27 2018 07:41 Mocsta wrote:

Show nested quote +

mafia is a team game for both alignments.

have correct suspicion, doesn't meet the game definition of winning.

wasnt this already debated prior when damdred got lynched d1 with correct reads.
you still need to convince people to lynch them - otherwise pointless.

Thats why I will always have respect for marvellosity.
There was this game he created a fake account years ago as fivetouch.
as a complete nobody he got the entire town onside and lynched mafia day1.

Very real crisis leadership.

i dont think any of the players in this game could do that; many are relying on reputations due to "correct suspicions".

The closest may actualy be Koshi, but for different reasons to fivetouch.
Koshi as town *CAN* be very involving from what I have seen in 2018.
Again, this is why he is scum this game.

ciao.

Also Mocsta, this post is very wrong. If i am completely honest here, while marvellosity is/was one of the best town players the only reason he is so good is because he cannot play as mafia. I have almost zero respect for people who can only play as one alignment, or well.. are only good as town because people naturally believe them as they are basically confirmed town, and for example Holyflare is on a completely different level because he can actually play as mafia and for that reason has to ACTUALLY work on convincing people as town when not confirmed.

And still manages to lead.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 05:24 GMT

#3773

I am just gonna say it out loud, Holyflare is the best mafia player i know and in my mind pretty much noone comes even close.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 28 2018 05:27 GMT

#3774

Tina i didn't really got you were blue and i don't know why Palmar and / or disfo decided to watch you N1 but it was a really good call. Only thing i said about night actions was "if i am getting tracked or something i will blame you guys" when they were about to make me deliver a kill.