I haven't always been this way, phone posting and work made me lazy and I spew whatever is on my mind. If it's wrong or "pushing mafia agenda" it's simply because I had 30 seconds at work to post something that I thought was correct but turns out wasn't.

I'm sorry you're so good that it ended like this though. 5 other players, including mafia moosy decided not to lynch me so I can't have been that bad either.

Holyflare

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March 14 2018 21:03 GMT

#2259

Does he seriously think I didn't know medics can do no action lol?

Holyflare

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March 14 2018 21:16 GMT

#2269

On March 15 2018 06:05 n00bKing wrote:

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If you were to say things like "what about this idea? Would that be good for us or no?" and it's a scum-favored plan, that wouldn't be so bad. But that's not what you did. It was "let's do this" and it's a scum-favored plan. No town player should ever be guilty of that. When you catch a player doing that, they should be scumread for it.

And if you're in a spot where you don't have time to see if something you're saying is correct or not...maybe WAIT? Until you can actually look and see if what you're saying is FALSE, before you post it. At very least, if you don't have time to fact-check yourself, you can say so. Mention that you're posting without checking, and say that someone else should double-check for you, because you might be wrong. You did none of that. You just presented things as fact that were not. That's what scum does, when they hope no one will read back and catch them.

I have an MRI and will the rest of the phase. So if you have any further response, you'll have to wait for mine til post-game. Bye

I don't have time at all in my life to wait. I get pockets of minutes to write stuff and then go about my day. I work 12 hour days and get home and make dinner and go to bed. We don't all revolve around playing mafia in a perfect way where we can fact check everything we say. All I can say is that other players managed to figure me out and they didn't find your points very convincing. If you say it's because they did not read them or discuss them then that is because you did not present it in a way that catered to your audience.

Playing the crowd is a valuable mafia skill that you should develop if you want to become very good at the game. You have to cater your posts to be presentable to the most people possible and get your case across. The moment you saw people saying that you write too much (they are presumably living lives like I where they don't have the time) you should try and re-assess the format that you write your posts. I appreciate that it might work in other forums to great success but keeping a rigid play style to the detriment of your case is not the be all and end all of playing. A good mafia player is one that can adapt to their surroundings. I am extremely certain that if you had presented your case in a more succinct way that was readable to more people that I would have actually been lynched.

You mention specific wording that I should have used such as suggesting "Is this a good plan?" but that IS, at the end of the day, just semantics. If you replied to me, "No, mafia can simply do this and that's why it's bad" I would have instantly backed down on the plan and agreed with you. It happened exactly like that with Rsoultin the day before last. I'm sorry if my speech is based on definitives and whatnot but that is a habit that other players are used to and based on ego and hence why people did not find those points very convincing in your case. I'm sure if I came to your website I would not be using them if it got me lynched but I have adapted a vocabulary playing here that caters to getting things that I want through manipulative speech that I wish to carry on using. Each site has a different playstyle and if you do not like this one then that is absolutely fine. There is no "My site is better" only "My site is different." We enjoy playing here and that is why we are here. If you do not enjoy playing here then goodbye. I enjoyed playing with someone that elaborated all their thoughts and I'm sorry it ended up this way for you.

Holyflare

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March 14 2018 22:30 GMT

#2288

zzzzzz

Holyflare

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March 14 2018 23:35 GMT

#2306

On March 15 2018 08:17 darthfoley wrote:
Also I agree with AMG in the obs thread.

AMG kill was understandable regardless of what others said. Rsoultin was basically townread to the point of a medic claim so it was understandable (and why I saw it coming.)

AMG was a good kill, no disputes.

Wouldn't be one I would make though.

Holyflare

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March 15 2018 00:21 GMT

#2320

On March 15 2018 09:16 AMG wrote:

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Oh not at all, I think i mentioned in obs that we were ALL struggling to find mafia early game and it was really starting to show. Everyone was standing around saying BUT WHOS MAFIA to each other and the response was a shrug. That really is a credit to moosey and noobkings early play to stay off nearly every bodies radar, they did quite well in that regard and I think town did equally well to not go feral on itself when there were no obvious options to go for.

I can say though that my day 1 reads are probably about 50%, but by the end of 2nd or 3rd cycle i'm usually well and truly onto scum, as unpopular as my reads may be at the time. If i'm flying with thread sentiment, you can assume i'm either being lazy af or i'm scum.

You were refreshing to play with. Thanks for playing.

Holyflare

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March 15 2018 01:02 GMT

#2324

Also I don't think my nk plan that noobking said was terrible was actually that awful. He says it ends the game in the qt but my whole point was that if we lynch wrong I 100% know it's the other vt and if mafia DO try and do some shenanigans to narrow it down further then the mafia in the medics becomes 50/50 between two people the next day.

Obviously statistically for everyone else not so great but when have I cared about that? Perfect for me if I can just argue my way out of a lynch knowing someone is confirmed mafia.

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