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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:28 GMT
#1683
On March 12 2018 08:27 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
Nobody is saying df is mafia lol?


n00bking voted me and vivax implied it


Wasn't his vote a joke lol?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:36 GMT
#1688
All scenarios based off mafia shooting rsoul:

Mafia medic in vivax/nk/ff.
Vivax heals moosey and hopes for a swap for 3 kills!
Vivax lone town heals moosey and mafia medic is nk/ff and stacked for koshi kill.
Moosey is mafia and vivax is bussing.
Moosey is mafia and nk/ff couldn't take the extra kill.

I don't think moosey is mafia and vivax created enough confusion at the last second based on a really bad moosey read to try and get 3 kills in one night. Terribly baf mafia play because it revealed his strat.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:39 GMT
#1691
To be really honest I think the best play here is to not lynch vivax.

We kill into the VTs (slam) and then we get ff/df to heal vivax, nk to heal rsoul and vivax to heal df.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:43 GMT
#1694
On March 12 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
To be really honest I think the best play here is to not lynch vivax.

We kill into the VTs (slam) and then we get ff/df to heal vivax, nk to heal rsoul and vivax to heal df.


With this plan we can confirm all the medics and keep two basically confirmed town alive right?

Df basically confirmed town. If vivax does not die ff is mafia confirmed.

If rsoul or df die mafia is confirmed.

If vivax dies and rsoul and df stay alive we still have 2 confirmed alive which is great.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:45 GMT
#1699
Discredit followed by actually looking into something. Amazing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:46 GMT
#1701
On March 12 2018 08:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
To be really honest I think the best play here is to not lynch vivax.

We kill into the VTs (slam) and then we get ff/df to heal vivax, nk to heal rsoul and vivax to heal df.


You do realize that if it's NK that practically confirms Moosy scum.

Only FF could theoretically (if mafia medic was the one to claim medic) have not targeted a town Moosy.


Don't see how but ok.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:47 GMT
#1703
If I was mafia here I would have without a doubt healed rsoultin lol.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:49 GMT
#1705
On March 12 2018 08:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:46 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 08:43 rsoultin wrote:
On March 12 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
To be really honest I think the best play here is to not lynch vivax.

We kill into the VTs (slam) and then we get ff/df to heal vivax, nk to heal rsoul and vivax to heal df.


You do realize that if it's NK that practically confirms Moosy scum.

Only FF could theoretically (if mafia medic was the one to claim medic) have not targeted a town Moosy.


Don't see how but ok.


Why would scum not take the 3 kills here? NK was here to double stack. He didn't. Thus, if he's scum, that practically confirms Moosy scum, doesn't it?


No? They could have been wary about saying they are on koshi and koshi not dying. They could have thought vivax was lying if vivax is town. They could have been ff and afk. They could have been any amount of things tbh.

Talk about my nk plan a bit. Any holes in it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 00:01 GMT
#1707
Too tired to think tbh. I think it's just vivax trying to stir confusion. Even now he's saying he might not have healed moosy or some shit and he went right off the bat to df/rsoul team.

Bit farfetched if you ask me. Looks like mafia scrambling and possibly trying to set up moosy as a "he's not dead" play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 00:03 GMT
#1708
Still wish to follow my plan and lynch into vts though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 01:08 GMT
#1733
absolutely not
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 01:41 GMT
#1738
I'll be sad if nk is mafia and nobody listened.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 09:19 GMT
#1741
That's a lot of words to say what I said :p

Any thoughts on my nk strat?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 10:26 GMT
#1744
What situation does everyone die?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 10:27 GMT
#1745
I've somehow poed myself as mafia but that just means it's slam or moosy. Moosy makes the most sense I guess but I dunno.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 10:46 GMT
#1750
On March 12 2018 19:38 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 12 2018 19:26 Holyflare wrote:
What situation does everyone die?

Viva scum.

df/ff kill viva
viva (or scummate) moves off df to double-stack on me
mafia shoots df because he's not protected

You get a scum viva. And two confirmed town dead.

Which isn't necessarily awful but since the chances of getting info out of the strat are low (barring stupid mafia play) if it's not viva, why not just lynch him then?


Eh tis true but the alternative is everyone stacking on one vt pool player and if it's town we lose two people anyway and have 0 confirmed medics still.

This way we can confirm in the medic pool. If we hit vivax and he's actually medic then the medics can heal each other next night too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 10:49 GMT
#1751
Alternatively we do df/ff on a vt player like moosy, vivax on rsoul, nk on df.

We narrow down the vt pool that way and if a medic wants to shenanigan they confirm themselves mafia.

This enables us to narrow down vt pool and simultaneously control the mafia nk while trying to preserve our medics.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 10:52 GMT
#1752
On March 12 2018 19:45 n00bKing wrote:
Anyway, I ran the numbers again, and yes, the mass claim still directs us to lynching in the VT pool.

If we lynch into the VT pool and we're wrong, having the extra town medic alive near the end (even if we aren't sure who it is) still gives us extra options in the last night phase, that we won't have if we've lynched into the medics and been wrong. The vig shot remains an option longer, and there are more scenarios where hero saves are something for the mafia to worry about. If we lynch wrong into the medics, we're hamstrung. No options, no sneaky plays for mafia to try and sniff out.

So, ##Unvote
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 19:27 Holyflare wrote:
I've somehow poed myself as mafia

I'm good with that conclusion. The circumstantial evidence against Vivax only makes you more likely to be scum, and not less.

##Vote: Holyflare


Get over yourself mate.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 10:58 GMT
#1755
On March 12 2018 19:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 19:46 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 19:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 12 2018 19:26 Holyflare wrote:
What situation does everyone die?

Viva scum.

df/ff kill viva
viva (or scummate) moves off df to double-stack on me
mafia shoots df because he's not protected

You get a scum viva. And two confirmed town dead.

Which isn't necessarily awful but since the chances of getting info out of the strat are low (barring stupid mafia play) if it's not viva, why not just lynch him then?


Eh tis true but the alternative is everyone stacking on one vt pool player and if it's town we lose two people anyway and have 0 confirmed medics still.

This way we can confirm in the medic pool. If we hit vivax and he's actually medic then the medics can heal each other next night too.


Again this only works with viva being scum, so -shrugs-

That's a long post to call me bad, noob, lol ><


Why does that only work if vivax is mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 12 2018 10:58 GMT
#1756
Oh you were responding to previous post.
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