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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 14:44 GMT
#1921
On February 11 2018 15:57 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.
I think this also clears ritoky.

Note the addition of mderg @ the top which is classic scum play to hedge a set of reads with a team member; again a heuristic to strengthen a town read on: conversion + ritoky.

The DF support is very interesting - in particular the phrasing.
Note the thread sentiment at this point in time:
- trfel = heaps of town cred
- trfel scum reading DF. Several agree with this.
- rsoultin could easily bandwagon; but instead we get "kinda towny' (which equally means "kinda scummy") and a scum push on AFK ritoky.

Hey hey.. look its Marco the soft bus!!
[image loading]


Do yourself a favour and ctrl+f "darth" or "df" within Rsoultin filter


Agreed with your point on ritoky probably being Town. And I appreciate your bus picture.

But I can say with confidence that I am not mafia


watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 15:14 GMT
#1922
On February 11 2018 23:44 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 15:57 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.
I think this also clears ritoky.

Note the addition of mderg @ the top which is classic scum play to hedge a set of reads with a team member; again a heuristic to strengthen a town read on: conversion + ritoky.

The DF support is very interesting - in particular the phrasing.
Note the thread sentiment at this point in time:
- trfel = heaps of town cred
- trfel scum reading DF. Several agree with this.
- rsoultin could easily bandwagon; but instead we get "kinda towny' (which equally means "kinda scummy") and a scum push on AFK ritoky.

Hey hey.. look its Marco the soft bus!!
[image loading]


Do yourself a favour and ctrl+f "darth" or "df" within Rsoultin filter


Agreed with your point on ritoky probably being Town. And I appreciate your bus picture.

But I can say with confidence that I am not mafia




Yeah, but you’re obligated to say that even if you were mafia.

/eyebrow raise


disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 11 2018 15:37 GMT
#1923
psa: headaches suck
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 16:20 GMT
#1924
On February 12 2018 00:14 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 23:44 darthfoley wrote:
On February 11 2018 15:57 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.
I think this also clears ritoky.

Note the addition of mderg @ the top which is classic scum play to hedge a set of reads with a team member; again a heuristic to strengthen a town read on: conversion + ritoky.

The DF support is very interesting - in particular the phrasing.
Note the thread sentiment at this point in time:
- trfel = heaps of town cred
- trfel scum reading DF. Several agree with this.
- rsoultin could easily bandwagon; but instead we get "kinda towny' (which equally means "kinda scummy") and a scum push on AFK ritoky.

Hey hey.. look its Marco the soft bus!!
[image loading]


Do yourself a favour and ctrl+f "darth" or "df" within Rsoultin filter


Agreed with your point on ritoky probably being Town. And I appreciate your bus picture.

But I can say with confidence that I am not mafia




Yeah, but you’re obligated to say that even if you were mafia.

/eyebrow raise




This is true. But I'm not! So there!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 11 2018 18:41 GMT
#1925
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 18:45 GMT
#1926
On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?


I think rayn, mocsta, and Damdred are town. Prplhz is also probably town

Mafia lies somewhere between you, disformation, koshi and Conversion
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 18:46 GMT
#1927
Ritoky is also in the prplhz tier of probably town
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 18:48 GMT
#1928
On February 12 2018 03:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?


I think rayn, mocsta, and Damdred are town. Prplhz is also probably town

Mafia lies somewhere between you, disformation, koshi and Conversion


Am I mafia by process of elimination? If not I am curious to hear your reasons as to why I am mafia.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 18:50 GMT
#1929
On February 12 2018 03:48 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 03:45 darthfoley wrote:
On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?


I think rayn, mocsta, and Damdred are town. Prplhz is also probably town

Mafia lies somewhere between you, disformation, koshi and Conversion


Am I mafia by process of elimination? If not I am curious to hear your reasons as to why I am mafia.


Generally PoE and also you being dispirited that your mafia bros were latched into so early.

I actually think mafia is more likely between Koshi, disformation and HF.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 18:51 GMT
#1930
I also claim ignorance considering I've been phone posting for this whole cycle so I haven't really done any analysis
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 18:54 GMT
#1931
Cool. I look forward to hearing your thoughts because me being mafia means I basically pulled off a huge balls play in calling both mderg and rsoultin out like that D1
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 11 2018 18:57 GMT
#1932
On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?

mh dunno.
kinda want to say koshi, just for having me as ultra town all the time and then putting me as #2 scum without giving a reason. but *shrugs*

really want to reread d1 b4 I give my final answer.
don't think its mocsta. don't think its rayn. don't think it is ritoky.
prplhz might be possible poe wise.
not sure about df, would need to actually read stuff to decide.
I guess damdy is still possible.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 11 2018 18:58 GMT
#1933
On February 12 2018 03:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?


I think rayn, mocsta, and Damdred are town. Prplhz is also probably town

Mafia lies somewhere between you, disformation, koshi and Conversion


So you're saying I'm potentially mafia that cased my team mate to lynch my other team mate who I hadn't talked about and who was also a role?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 11 2018 18:59 GMT
#1934
Jesus christ you both keep all your options open don't you?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 11 2018 19:04 GMT
#1935
always.
that's the problem when you don't know ppls alignments. its just really hard to tell.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 11 2018 19:11 GMT
#1936
like I still have a bad feeling about voting damdy. dunno why.
prplhz is playing an extremely no fucks given at all game if he is scum.
don't think its hf, mocsta, ritoky, rayn.

leaves conv and df. need to reread d1 of both. think df is just a tad more likely just for being on mderg not rs? but again need to reread.

and if its none of those it might be koshi?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 19:16 GMT
#1937
On February 12 2018 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Jesus christ you both keep all your options open don't you?


How am I keeping all my options when I just took like 5 options off the board?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 19:17 GMT
#1938
On February 12 2018 04:11 disformation wrote:
like I still have a bad feeling about voting damdy. dunno why.
prplhz is playing an extremely no fucks given at all game if he is scum.
don't think its hf, mocsta, ritoky, rayn.

leaves conv and df. need to reread d1 of both. think df is just a tad more likely just for being on mderg not rs? but again need to reread.

and if its none of those it might be koshi?


I was never "on mderg but not rsoultin." I voted for rsoultin both days
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2018 19:17 GMT
#1939
On February 12 2018 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 03:45 darthfoley wrote:
On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?


I think rayn, mocsta, and Damdred are town. Prplhz is also probably town

Mafia lies somewhere between you, disformation, koshi and Conversion


So you're saying I'm potentially mafia that cased my team mate to lynch my other team mate who I hadn't talked about and who was also a role?


Yep. Mderg was pretty useless and framers are rarely helpful so I don't think it's as much of a stretch as you make it out to be
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 11 2018 19:20 GMT
#1940
On February 12 2018 04:17 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 04:11 disformation wrote:
like I still have a bad feeling about voting damdy. dunno why.
prplhz is playing an extremely no fucks given at all game if he is scum.
don't think its hf, mocsta, ritoky, rayn.

leaves conv and df. need to reread d1 of both. think df is just a tad more likely just for being on mderg not rs? but again need to reread.

and if its none of those it might be koshi?


I was never "on mderg but not rsoultin." I voted for rsoultin both days

your vote was on mderg at the end of d1.
but yeah I know you were on rs for some time, which is why I said like 2-3 times I'm going to need to reread you.
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