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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 09 2018 21:52 GMT
#1637
Did Damdred ever respond to HF's point about the wagon analysis or did he just say Fake News!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 00:16 GMT
#1676
On February 10 2018 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.




The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.




I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin

I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.


Maybe I sheep you. Idk if you are ever mafia with this post.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 14:34 GMT
#1725
Koshi is wrong about me. His point about me forgetting rsoultin could be mafia is just Donald trump levels Wrong! "I forgot how hard he tr her" ?????? Please quote me that because I'm pretty sure it never happened

He's also now using this "his post style is not succinct" argument which he hasn't used against anyone else in the game.

Hopefully this doesn't make him mafia, it just makes him stupid.

Disformation reminds me of Mocsta last game but with better posts. I haven't read his filter carefully but he could be mafia.

I'm fine with rsoultin/Damdred being the lynch but I'm voting rsoultin because she is still complaining about things that just aren't true (e.g. Town is being lazy today ?????). I have not gotten any vibes that she is trying to solve game. Plus she unvoted mderg first and that whole EoD. If damdred dies, that's fine too.

##vote: rsoultin

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 14:37 GMT
#1726
I'm going to the beach with my girlfriend today so there's a good chance I will only be around a couple times to check the thread.

Don't listen to Koshi. Listen to your heart
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 19:47 GMT
#1780
If Damdred is mafia he's just playing very sub optimally so I think he's probably Town? Even with the inconsistencies
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 19:56 GMT
#1783
On February 11 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 04:47 darthfoley wrote:
If Damdred is mafia he's just playing very sub optimally so I think he's probably Town? Even with the inconsistencies


You haven't even commented on the inconsistencies? Why did rsoul join your scum team and why is your main scum team rsoul and rayn when rayn is pushing rsoul and vice versa?


Read my recent filter. I'd be bamboozledif rayn is mafia
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 19:57 GMT
#1784
It's slightly annoying when you and Koshi accuse me of factually incorrect things that would be easily seen if you read my recent posts
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 19:58 GMT
#1785
On February 10 2018 09:16 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.




The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.




I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin

I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.


Maybe I sheep you. Idk if you are ever mafia with this post.

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:04 GMT
#1792
Lmaoooo I'm Town forever please and thanks

Fuck the haters
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:06 GMT
#1799
On February 11 2018 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 04:58 darthfoley wrote:
On February 10 2018 09:16 darthfoley wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.




The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.




I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin

I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.


Maybe I sheep you. Idk if you are ever mafia with this post.



This is not my point at all. You said damdred and rayn looked really bad for the votes on rsoul and then magically rsoultin came back into being mafia WITH rayn despite rayn wanting to lynch rsoultin!

So, why did rayn look bad while simultaneously voting for someone you thought was mafia!



You can keep asking me questions but I'm basically confirmed Town so I'm going to choose to not defend myself from you atm
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:07 GMT
#1801
Any chance Koshi is mafia btw? Not a 0% chance possibility
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:08 GMT
#1804
On February 11 2018 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
And why are you confirmed town?


Because I was apathetic about yesterday's lynch on two mafia. Didn't try to get cred. and I could've easily voted Damdred today but I didn't.

Plus my two partners apparently tried to bus me day 1. So yea I'm confirmed Town
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:09 GMT
#1806
Interesting that rsoultin isn't a PR mafia role though. Mildly surprising
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:11 GMT
#1812
On February 11 2018 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
The whole interaction was you trying to claim credit for the original read imo


I was defending myself as not being a sheep. Which is different from trying to take cred for lynching mafia.

Either way I think it's pretty clear from the first two days that I'm not mafia.

Rayn is also confirmed Town. Good for you rayn. WP friend
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:15 GMT
#1815
Would mafia!prplhz not try to get any town cred on D1 MvM lynch?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:20 GMT
#1817
Koshi also defended rsoultin pretty hard
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:23 GMT
#1824
On February 11 2018 05:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 05:01 Calix wrote:
Day Two Final Vote Count


rsoultin (5): raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, Conversion, darthfoley, Damdred
Damdred (3): Holyflare, Mocsta, Koshi, rsoultin, disformation, ritoky, disformation
raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin
Conversion (1): prplhz
darthfoley (2): Koshi, rsoultin
Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneet

Not Voting (0):

rsoultin is the lynch!


Do you think it happened again? :D


I hope so. Then we win best Town performance of 2k18 guaranteed and it's only February
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:24 GMT
#1827
Cop claims tomorrow with two alive checks and we almost auto win?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:24 GMT
#1828
On February 11 2018 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think the final mafia is one voting for Damdred.


Makes most sense
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 10 2018 20:31 GMT
#1837
On February 11 2018 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
Why?

because you didn't vote for rsoultin.

Actually Mocsta probably isn't mafia.


Yea, he voted mderg > rsoultin when she was goon and he didn't have to
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