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On February 07 2018 18:20 rsoultin wrote:I'm torn on mocsta. On the one hand, he's sticking to his guns, which is quite different than his scum game. He's also poking and prodding at people around his case. But he's not really focused beyond what people say about his case or the non-existent rsoul. I don't think that's necessarily scummy, but I do think it's an easy way for scum to play because it only requires focus on two fronts. I'd even say slight townread for the bolded meta point. What really gives me pause though is that I distinctly recall his primary negative comment about me in his scum QT being that I didn't have the "EQ" to handle a holyflare. If he noticed that I react so poorly (yes, sorry, rsoul is existing again for a second but it's the only way that I can explain my concern on mocsta) to people belittling me, he should have known how posts like this would tilt me: Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 06:42 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 06:38 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 06:25 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
What a pointless conversation about pointless conversations. So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor. @Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though. hi tina Would you call your rayn = scum 'light' comment Humour or passive aggression? Didn't see this. And I have no clue what you're asking, because to me it sounds like you assume that I could only be joking or being passive aggressive? you know tina Insteas of answering a question with a question You can continue to deflect by answering the question lol Or you could clarify as I asked. That's also a thing. Why so mad? Need some itch cream? I got what you need, bbygurl For someone who noticed that I tilt even in a game I'm not scumread in at posts like this, it seems less like he was less interested in my alignment than he should have been. Damdred is also a pretty easy mislynch if he's town. The reason for it is bad, too. Afk. Only caveat is mocsta may not know that Ian tends to poof constantly. Which fits him being town and tunneled on me therefore ignoring anything I say as possibly false. Meh. Now I'm talking in circles. It's really an interplay between pretty solid push in his filter and saying things he know will tilt me. Although, ironically, him doing that pretty solid push then switching over to Damdred for one post actually does align better with his scum play. Leaning scum. So im leaning scum?
The whole irony of this post is you say i should hav ebetter eq on you, suggesting perhaps you didnt realise i was considering an unvote.
however, later you comment on this, so you should know i have realised myself i may have tilted you.
with that contradiction, now i can only keep my vote.
damdred is scum with you
i dont have to re-read, thanks for saving me a couple horus.
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EQ = Emotional equivalent of IQ
i have no issue with Ritoky at this point.
I think hes honest with not playing like this before and being to the point.
Would be a 1 or 2 on the ritoky scale.
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On February 07 2018 18:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:34 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 18:20 rsoultin wrote:I'm torn on mocsta. On the one hand, he's sticking to his guns, which is quite different than his scum game. He's also poking and prodding at people around his case. But he's not really focused beyond what people say about his case or the non-existent rsoul. I don't think that's necessarily scummy, but I do think it's an easy way for scum to play because it only requires focus on two fronts. I'd even say slight townread for the bolded meta point. What really gives me pause though is that I distinctly recall his primary negative comment about me in his scum QT being that I didn't have the "EQ" to handle a holyflare. If he noticed that I react so poorly (yes, sorry, rsoul is existing again for a second but it's the only way that I can explain my concern on mocsta) to people belittling me, he should have known how posts like this would tilt me: On February 06 2018 06:42 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 06:38 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 06:25 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
What a pointless conversation about pointless conversations. So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor. @Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though. hi tina Would you call your rayn = scum 'light' comment Humour or passive aggression? Didn't see this. And I have no clue what you're asking, because to me it sounds like you assume that I could only be joking or being passive aggressive? you know tina Insteas of answering a question with a question You can continue to deflect by answering the question lol Or you could clarify as I asked. That's also a thing. Why so mad? Need some itch cream? I got what you need, bbygurl For someone who noticed that I tilt even in a game I'm not scumread in at posts like this, it seems less like he was less interested in my alignment than he should have been. Damdred is also a pretty easy mislynch if he's town. The reason for it is bad, too. Afk. Only caveat is mocsta may not know that Ian tends to poof constantly. Which fits him being town and tunneled on me therefore ignoring anything I say as possibly false. Meh. Now I'm talking in circles. It's really an interplay between pretty solid push in his filter and saying things he know will tilt me. Although, ironically, him doing that pretty solid push then switching over to Damdred for one post actually does align better with his scum play. Leaning scum. So im leaning scum? The whole irony of this post is you say i should hav ebetter eq on you, suggesting perhaps you didnt realise i was considering an unvote. however, later you comment on this, so you should know i have realised myself i may have tilted you. with that contradiction, now i can only keep my vote. damdred is scum with you i dont have to re-read, thanks for saving me a couple horus.  i cant understand for the life of me why you would do this as either town or mafia.
i was ready to give you a chance and this just makes no sense as a play other than mafia toying around before death.
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On February 07 2018 18:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:40 Mocsta wrote:
EQ = Emotional equivalent of IQ
i have no issue with Ritoky at this point.
I think hes honest with not playing like this before and being to the point.
Would be a 1 or 2 on the ritoky scale. This was how I was interpreting EQ as well, to be clear. Yes he called me the equivalent of emotionally stupid in his scum QT. That sort of thing sticks in my memory. I most certainly did not (or intended it to be taken that way). I will PM you about this after the game.
For fucks sake. I opened my case with how much I respect your play.
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On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.
no. not a suitable day1 vote.
Damdred all the way
I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game again
i dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on.
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On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. no. not a suitable day1 vote. Damdred all the way I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game againi dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on. now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments. excuse me? what is not alignment indicative?
On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me. and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.
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##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn
I was sitting on fence with you; because I thought you were driving good discussion.
But everything is OMGUS.
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On February 07 2018 19:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.
I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.
Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.
Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.
Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.
other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point. So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game Again. why jump to worst-conclusions. Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent). Pray tell me though. Do you see anything towny about damdred so far? Flu or not. Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better. I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg. Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him. Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So... 1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good? 2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse? I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you? This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good. Its a terrible post and terrible dichotomy
its also the same reasoning behind why rels got lynched as town.
ppl do stuff they are shamed to admit all the time.
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isnt overplaying it.. hes calling me scum you idiot.
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On February 07 2018 19:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
isnt overplaying it.. hes calling me scum you idiot. O rly. Explain to me where.
how about his whole filter....
whats there to explain?
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On February 07 2018 19:45 Koshi wrote:
imo the townies this game are destroying each other. Which is fine if you come to a point we all sing kumbaya together in the end.
My point on prplhz is good. Him having a problem with the bad tr from df on me without having a problem with me is also slightly more mafia.
Mderg is super sideline like others have been saying. Me first though. He has no original thoughts and have had the solo "I am tired I dont want to play" post mafia makes more often than town.
Damdred could be a butterfly who is now sleeping as a cocoon. But he could be mafia easily as well. Very easily.
Rels w.e. We cant know. i find this post good.
yes, im going to legitimately vote mderg. that summarises quite well what i have been feeling.
##Unvote
##Vote: mderg
as an aside, i can accept a town!DF thinking im scum. Hes quite a pussy as scum so I can see him being cautious of me.
Rsoultin.. hmm, i dunno to be honest. Even though I legit pocketed her last game, I expect her personality to brush that off as "lesson learned" and not keep injecting "ohhh. im so cautious of this and that"..but thats my prediction on her behaviour and i should treat it as that.
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Koshi town btw
I did the same thing as him last game but compeletly different delivery and intent
That post has no value as scum. It really doeant
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On February 07 2018 19:57 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. no. not a suitable day1 vote. Damdred all the way I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game againi dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on. now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments. excuse me? what is not alignment indicative? On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me. and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off. I really want to townread you for this comment alone lol
Now you see the light
There is no vader here.
Tell me about mderg puh leaae
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Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic.
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On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't. This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia lol yeah that makes aense actually.
He probably legit doesnt understand what im saying so doesnt know how to twist it into saying im scum.
Ok. I will read detention again
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On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. talking to me?
Who cares if my argument is wrong
Care if its intentional
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On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic. To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content tell me. Is rayn always so self centred?
Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last
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Yes strong town lean +5
Koshi
Hf
Darthfoley
Conversion
Nullish -2 to +4
Ritoky
Rayn
Rsoultin
Rels
Trfel
Prplhz
Scummy -5
Mderg
Damdred
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On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. talking to me? Who cares if my argument is wrong Care if its intentional No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df. About tfrel: I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe. What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia. analytical ppl can be wrong. So bad scumreads dont make him mafia either.
Its more he set the standard as deep and inciteful. I had to read thr conversion/trfel posts like 3 to 4 times cos i just dont view the game that deep on a filter by filter level. Bht once i got it.. it all made sense so im like. What a town motherfucker. This is real content.
Then to see this guy casually vote someone on the sheep and withoit interrogsting them.. thata just not congruent with what i would expect..
In short. He came across as super original
And ended up as a copy paster.
Whilst hr can agree with a good case. I still expect him to do his own homework on it. Instead there ks none of this deep insight into why rsoultin is scum
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On February 07 2018 20:18 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn claims to like mderg for focusing on the right thingS (plural) when his whole filter exists in the echo chamber of "rsoultin is scum" thread sentiment reads.
He has made one comment on me (with no conclusion) and one townread on Mocsta for wrong reasons.
Could be down to lynch. But I also get the willies that rsoultin's wagon is starting to face some pressure. Mafia would be likely to sit on their hands and do nothing if she's Town. to be determined
I disagree
I wrote repeatedly in qt that i always want an alternative wagon second 24hrs so people dont get itchy. I think its more a town tell .
If mafia. I thinm optimal play is to either fight before it is a wagon or bus it outright
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