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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 11:18 GMT
#602
Rayn claims to like mderg for focusing on the right thingS (plural) when his whole filter exists in the echo chamber of "rsoultin is scum" thread sentiment reads.

He has made one comment on me (with no conclusion) and one townread on Mocsta for wrong reasons.

Could be down to lynch. But I also get the willies that rsoultin's wagon is starting to face some pressure. Mafia would be likely to sit on their hands and do nothing if she's Town. to be determined
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 11:20 GMT
#603
I would actually appreciate Conversion's feedback in the thread. He was playing well earlier
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 11:20 GMT
#605
On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.

However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.

This to me is non characyeristic.


To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content
tell me. Is rayn always so self centred?

Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last


Yes. I know he also tunnels hardcore as Town. Not really familiar with his mafia play.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 11:25 GMT
#608
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 12:00 GMT
#622
On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.

Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch.


Hmmm. I guess I can see what you mean. Has your read on him changed at all since?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 12:32 GMT
#629
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?


Mocsta is moving away from rsoultin. Rayn is trying to lynch me but also rsoultin.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 12:32 GMT
#631
maybe I like rayn again
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 12:58 GMT
#641
On February 07 2018 21:53 prplhz wrote:
alright who on earth is Ian


damdred I believe.

be back about 1 hour before deadline. hopefully i'm not getting lynched by then
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:06 GMT
#749
On February 08 2018 00:26 Conversion wrote:
Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.


yes, it was I! I still think that inconsistency is very weird, even after he explained it. I kinda bought it but not really

Catching up now 1 hour before deadline
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:12 GMT
#751
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


I really think you're town. Don't let me down plz
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:14 GMT
#752
On February 08 2018 03:21 Koshi wrote:
Well if both mderg and rsoultin are town we have to start looking at rayn and HF who has been avoiding each other I feel like. Not sure if that is completely correct but when I didn't do anything they did push this thread towards a place I didn't like. Which is darthfoley/rsoultin mafia.

I don't buy that.

I might be wrong though.


This is actually quite an astute observation
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:15 GMT
#753
On February 08 2018 03:36 prplhz wrote:
And I believe that I am town so that's the three most likely lynches out of the window an hour before deadline.

Who's up for shennanies???


I kind of like this post.

/s
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:16 GMT
#754
On February 08 2018 03:39 prplhz wrote:
Lets lynch like Trfel or... Rels?


You and I are the only people who don't like Trfel atm
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:17 GMT
#756
On February 08 2018 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Just lynch mderg. Easy.


Quick question for brownie points:
Who has received the most (easy) townreads from different players in this game.

I think I know and it is weird. Got to look into that.


Mocsta
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:18 GMT
#757
On February 07 2018 23:23 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn?


I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later.

Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation

this is a 100% mafia post for 2 reasons.
first on is he "believes" i am wrong. :D

Kind of like this post.



On February 08 2018 03:36 prplhz wrote:
And I believe that I am town so that's the three most likely lynches out of the window an hour before deadline.

Who's up for shennanies???


@rsoultin
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:29 GMT
#770
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:32 GMT
#776
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.

This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)

For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:33 GMT
#778
On February 08 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


I really think you're town. Don't let me down plz


If you are saying this point I brought up is bringing your opinion of me down, I am just saying I feel as if this could be a possibility. Who knows, though.


No, i'm saying it's bringing my opinion of you up. Sorry for the confusion.

+ Show Spoiler +
but now i'm worried that you care about my opinion. rats!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:37 GMT
#784
On February 08 2018 04:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:32 darthfoley wrote:
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.

This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)

For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable.


This is blatantly misrepresenting my play given the whole reason I was even on scum D1 last game rather than BTDT was due to my two top townreads either townreading BTDT (Damdred) or scumreading you (KSC).


Fake news! Point noted though. You lived for a while after that and I felt as if you had more control over the game. Granted, that was a newbie game without Koshi/rayn.

Idk, maybe i'm just trying to shore up my confidence on you given that it's so tempting to town read you for activity
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 19:37 GMT
#787
Shit we're less than 30 min away from deadline
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