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On February 07 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:29 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
And why does that make that post bad? You literally acknowledge you didn't want to talk about the game because of Mocsta's wall of text etc. I haven't even read his wall of text but Rayn is saying you have a scum read that you aren't pushing and you're not interested in getting involved with the game. I feel much the same way. It's the opposite of a bad post imo. You're very dense Me not wanting to read Mocsta's wall of text =/= me not wanting to read the game. I can interact with the game without dealing with big ass confusing posts. That's like elementary logic Perhaps you're misunderstanding. I, myself, feel that you are not interacting with the game AT ALL and are being a sideline person that does nothing and has nothing to say. Rayn has echoed that in that post that you linked. So, when Rayn says that you aren't interacting with the game you respond with you don't want to read posts like Mocsta's instead. I'm pretty sure it is you who is misinterpreting things. Also needlessly insulting people. Probably mafia.
And I am bussing rsoultin. You, and only you, have foiled my dastardly plan! Rats! We must abort our mission.
I am definitely interacting with the game. Sorry you disagree. Now bye
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It does make me happy that last game HF defended me heavily and this game he is suspicious of me. It just proves that some people really do have the #GOD tier read on you.
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Is anyone else here besides HF? Trying to find people to interact about the game with
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On February 07 2018 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
Let me get this really succinct and clear as a time line:
Rayn says that Darthfoley isn't talking about Rsoultin and that is okay if he does talk about other stuff.
Rayn says Darthfoley isn't talking about anything though.
Rayn says Darthfoley has a scum read he isn't pushing.
Darthfoley responds saying he would be happy to talk about stuff if it wasn't so long winded like Mocsta's posts.
In my eyes you have entirely misrepresented Rayn's argument and manipulated it to be you're not talking about Mocsta when in fact he's saying you're not participating in the game like you normally would as town. Rayn says it looks like you're on the sidelines posting about a scum read but not pushing it in the slightest (like you did last game with Mocsta).
So please, elaborate for my very dense brain why this is such a bad post that requires you to repeatedly insult an individual's talent and intellect.
1. Rayn says darthfoley isn't talking about rsoultin when he actually is.
2. Rayn says darthfoley isn't talking about anything when he actually is
3. Rayn says darthfoley has a scum read he isn't pushing which depends on your definition of not pushing
4. I am happy to talk about stuff that isn't long winded like Mocsta's post. Which I have.
There you go
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I've played like 3-4 games in a row where I have had significant pressure on D1 and it's annoying and frustrating, especially when the accusations are false or lazy as hell. So yea, i'm gonna be salty and I don't really want lectures from people who flame the fuck out of other players acting high and mighty about it.
People accusing me of being a sideliner somehow should take a look at mderg's filter to grasp the meaning of a sideliner.
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On February 06 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy
i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I? I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something." Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy. I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so. 1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic 2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out 3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point) 2 and 3 are good points. 1 is not.
A reminder for those who claim I never talked about rsoultin or made my read clear.
Btw, #2 and #3 are still true like 18 hours later.
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On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.
I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.
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On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.
I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.
Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.
Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.
Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.
other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.
So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
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On February 07 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:43 darthfoley wrote:
I've played like 3-4 games in a row where I have had significant pressure on D1 and it's annoying and frustrating, especially when the accusations are false or lazy as hell. So yea, i'm gonna be salty and I don't really want lectures from people who flame the fuck out of other players acting high and mighty about it.
People accusing me of being a sideliner somehow should take a look at mderg's filter to grasp the meaning of a sideliner. I don't think I really ever flame the fuck out of other players but okay. You should probably realise why people scum read you though and acknowledge that they shouldn't be put down for it. You have mentioned how you've been shot night 1 repeatedly as town and from what I've played with you you have been a good player. So, when you don't post as much and aren't at the forefront of this game ready to be a prime shot target night 1 this game then naturally people are going to be suspicious of you. It's not a slight on your character, it's an admirable thing to be called mafia for. It means you're generally good. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now and let you do some more things (like push Rsoultin and Mocsta) and I'll re-evaluate when it comes to needing to do that. Hope that's okay.
Yea sorry for being an ass. It's annoying for me because the timezone differential means that I'm generally active when people aren't and vice versa. I prefer being in the thick of the action and so far I think it's fair to say I've been lazy or unmotivated. Anyways, let's get back to the game
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HF what do you make of Mocsta defaulting to Damdred being the best lynch option ATM?
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On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.
I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.
Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.
Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.
Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.
other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point. So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game Again. why jump to worst-conclusions. Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent). Pray tell me though. Do you see anything towny about damdred so far? Flu or not. Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.
I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.
Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.
Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...
1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?
I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?
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On February 07 2018 09:01 ritoky wrote:
You called rels town one time df. It was strange and off-putting. But I love your kick ass, take names, and fuck off tone. It makes me slightly hard.
I have one small reason to town read Rels but it's very weak. I would put him slightly above null on the town side.
I appreciate your boner, but I can only hope it's a town boner and not a buddy boner
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On February 07 2018 09:26 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.
I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.
Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.
Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.
Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.
other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point. So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game Again. why jump to worst-conclusions. Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent). Pray tell me though. Do you see anything towny about damdred so far? Flu or not. Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better. I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg. Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him. Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So... 1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good? 2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse? I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you? I didnt even know Rels was in this game lol. DF is really salty, and I was treating that as enjoying spotlight, but perhaps is just bitter prick about being scum twice in a row. You are continuing to misconstrue everything I say. I havent decided Damdred is the best lynch. hmmmm, im starting to see rsoultin/damdred/df team with conversion as SK.
You literally just said you are considering Damdred to be the best day 1 lynch
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Rayn's confidence in incorrects reads fuels me
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On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. no. not a suitable day1 vote. Damdred all the way I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game againi dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on. now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments. excuse me? what is not alignment indicative? Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me. and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.
I really want to townread you for this comment alone lol
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@ritoky
I was angle shooting
Also rayn's big "gotcha" moment doesn't make sense. A scum slip is when people say "I believe am I Town" not "I am Town and I believe your arguments are incorrect." But now were just talking semantics
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On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.
Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't.
This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia
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On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin).
Like this read just seems very superficial
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On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic.
To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content
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On February 06 2018 07:35 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 07:22 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 07:13 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 06:50 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime. a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol But.. what yoy say is interesting. I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping" Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment Bro-ski Nice joke but not very hipster of you Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please Was thinking nothing about her posts but that On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though. actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me Why? Maybe bullshitty is the wrong word but this "unnatural place for someone's mind to go" is a bit much regarding an obvious joke post Again, why does it being an obvious joke post default to bullshit? I read the beginning of the sentence and assumed mafia would be the conclusion. It wasn't. That caught my eye more than all the other obvious jokes flying around -shrugs- I agree that it's pretty moot since it was just a passing thought that for some stupid reason has now become the focal point of the thread. What do you think about mocsta bandwagoning on that? @DF, so it's scummy for me to comment on it like I did but you also don't like mocsta. I don't understand. I guess my mind is more simple than that. I see joke post -> I mentally discard it About Mocsta: I can kind of see what he's seeing but I'm already struggling to understand what he's saying
Very odd read progression imo
1. I can kind of see what he's seeing
2. I am already struggling to understand what he's saying
3. MOCSTA KNOWS WHERE HES GOING THIS GAME
but I thought you couldn't understand what he was saying (?)
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