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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:00 GMT
#200
I agree though that df can easily be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:16 GMT
#202
Last game i thought df could be scum for this post:
On January 19 2018 05:10 darthfoley wrote:
I need to reread Damerion's back and forth with Damdred, but it felt like a "trust me dude" meta read which isn't a lot to go on unless he was trying to bait a reaction. On the other hand, Damdred pulling a BTDT and being a little dramatic is not what I would expect from Damdred over a simple accusation on D1.

where he brushed off an argument when it was the main discussion point in the game, then said he needs to reread it and never followed up with it. I see sort of similar behavior this game where he just ignores the main argument in the game because "you guys make too big posts". Yes, the "Mocsta doesn't impress you, but seem to agree with everything he's saying and doing about rsoultin" from Trfel is an addition to this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:19 GMT
#203
If df doesn't wanna talk about rsoultin that could even be okay but it seems like he doesn't wanna talk about anything at all. Yes it seems like he is scumreading rsoultin rn, but i don't really feel like he actually wants to lynch rsoultin (aka same way Mocsta and DF scumread each other last game).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:24 GMT
#204
I also think Trfel is quite obviously town.
mderg is probably town too and giving it a bit more thought Conversion too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:29 GMT
#206
Holyflare what is bad in rsoultin's follow up you were talking about?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:36 GMT
#209
On February 06 2018 17:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 16:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:56 Holyflare wrote:
I don't like her follow up. I agree with that much. I just think your initial points were overblown and I wanted to see if it was pointless pressure or not.

I don't understand since i made the exact same points i am making now.


I don't agree with your "she's dismissing me" points and the points about her picking out a sk of all things. I agree that her tone feels off and she isn't doing much to figure things out from this barrage though. That's about it.

Okay, i will quote the whole convo between us:

rsoultin: something about Conversion
rayn: what? :o
rsoultin: tells me not to intervene the conversation (honeslt idc what she claims this is exactly what she did)

i wait
conversion answers

rayn: now what was the point?
rsoultin: Lol, I'm amazed you think I have a point
rayn: I actually did think you have a point since you told me to not get into the middle of the "conversation".
rsoultin: Did I?
rayn: I don't know how to interpret your post #62 if it is not saying that.

HF: what a pointless convo

Now at this point i tell why i think this is scummy and i say the exact same things i did later on.

You vote for me. Are you seriously saying you do not think she's dismissing me, or are you seriously saying you can't see my point. I don't even understand how you change your mind after that since the conversation doesn't go on, so there is pretty much no follow up from rsoultin.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:45 GMT
#212
I think it's a point because after the game which name i forgot where me and marv thought she was mafia and pushed her almost up to a point where she quit she has never done it as town.Just because she knows how i react to people who don't give clear answers (and that game was a game where i thought she never answered me in anything i asked and i called her scum for it).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:46 GMT
#213
As mafia it d0oesn't matter though because it doesn't matter how i react if only other people see it dumb from my end.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:53 GMT
#216
No it is the thing that you can't help yourself and you do it as mafia every game, not necessarily towards me but towards someone.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 08:55 GMT
#217
On February 06 2018 17:53 rsoultin wrote:
And you still seem to see as scummy.

This has nothing to do with you equating it with you not agreeing with me about something that i think is self-evident and i do not wish to continue this conversation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 09:29 GMT
#230
I will say one more thing regarding this.

Tina, i never thought your initial jump on Conversion's SK comment made you anything. I am not sure if i have been clear on that or not, i just found it the comment interesting since i didn't understand it. That's why i asked you about it in the first place, since your posts here:
On February 06 2018 05:28 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 05:22 Conversion wrote:
He's actually home. I'm next to him and read his role PM and it said Serial Killer


Lol, dude, you actually had me checking to see if there were a possible serial killer in this game @.@

and here:
On February 06 2018 05:39 rsoultin wrote:
You know, it's funny, but unless I'm skimming too fast, there's really nothing in the thread that specifically precludes a potential serial killer...

-eyes Conversion-

clearly imply you think something about it.

The problem is that to myself that was very clear that you had some sort of a point, otherwise the posts above are just bullshit and you have to be mafia. I never really caredf about what the point is (well ofc unless it is completely BS). I just wanted to see if you have a point or not. Your answer here:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange.

..there is nothing wrong in that, however what's wrong is this:
rayn: now what was the point?
rsoultin: Lol, I'm amazed you think I have a point
rayn: I actually did think you have a point since you told me to not get into the middle of the "conversation".
rsoultin: Did I?
rayn: I don't know how to interpret your post #62 if it is not saying that.

This part tells me you are mafia, because i don't think you would approach the situation like this especially considering the person you are "arguing" with is me. Because you know how i interpret things. I find two problems here:
1) Given your conclusion in the end (i already quoted that) you should imo realize why i am asking you what i did
2) Given that you know how i play you shouldn't be acting like that (prolonging the conversation and not giving a straight answer when you sure do have one) towards me.

A bit later on i also find these quite hilarious.
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
What a pointless conversation about pointless conversations.


So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor.

@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

and,
On February 06 2018 06:31 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
What a pointless conversation about pointless conversations.


So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor.

@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

This doesn't make any sense at all. I don't see how it would be more or less "unnatural place to go" as any alignment. I asked you a very simple question (which is btw completely clear and not obscure at all) which to i predicted an "i was just joking" or what you said in case you're not.

I find it even funnier that you seem to be calling me mafia because of it, as... well... i was actually right in that you did have some kind of a point, regardless of how strong it was. I don't even care about the point (because i definitely don't agree with it on any level), i care more about the fact that you seem to be dragging the conversation, that yes - was completely pointless, for no real purpose.

In short, you're just saying stuff that has no relevance to anyone's alignment, you're jsut making shit up.


I honestly don't care if you see it or not. Nor was I in any way dragging on the conversation. You were unable to leave it alone The only real question is whether or not that makes you mafia.

Mocsta jumping right on board with it isn't giving me amazing feels, either, after his last follow the thread sentiment while inventing a 'creative' reason scum game.

I find the red bolded parts just completely BS because i don't see what has humor to do with any of this and yes, you literally dragged the conversation.

You can answer this if you want to but i am not sure if you should bother since i am quite sure i won't change my mind regardless of what you say so maybe you'äre better just leave it and go find mafia in case you're not one.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 09:30 GMT
#231
On February 06 2018 18:24 rsoultin wrote:
Joni thinks she's scum, let me add my hipster reason to it.

Mocsta's reasoning absolutely makes sense, that's probably what i would write being me and not knowing you better.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 09:35 GMT
#235
On February 06 2018 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
Even though you're just repeating the same things that I disagreed with. I'm changing my stance to agreement.

I am just doing it because i don't really like rsoultin trying to make the case look like something that it is not. Not saying that's even necessarily scummy, maybe she just genuinely doesn't understand what i am saying (which is kind of my problem and why i have to repeat things).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 09:38 GMT
#237
Probs scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 10:56 GMT
#265
What is the "half-town" read?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 10:56 GMT
#266
On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read?


ritoky?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 11:05 GMT
#271
On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read?


that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment.

so rsoultin and Trfel arent townreads after all? I mean if Mocsta is "half town" based on a shitty heuristic, i am quite sure you should consider your almost as shitty smiley read more convincing and Trfel is always town so i cannot understand why anyone should not read him as town as Mocsta in the first place. I don't understand the strength of HF read and i think it is BS but i concede to the point you could possibly maybe sometimes think so as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 11:15 GMT
#278
On February 06 2018 20:11 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read?


that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment.

so rsoultin and Trfel arent townreads after all? I mean if Mocsta is "half town" based on a shitty heuristic, i am quite sure you should consider your almost as shitty smiley read more convincing and Trfel is always town so i cannot understand why anyone should not read him as town as Mocsta in the first place. I don't understand the strength of HF read and i think it is BS but i concede to the point you could possibly maybe sometimes think so as town.


i mean i was confident until you told me she got nailed for it last game, then i looked and it was kinda true; so i lost some confidence in it. i was banking on using the read i invented years ago to get a sneakster read, but it appears people still plagiarize my reads shamelessly.

trfel took a quote out of context pretty bad, so he doesn't get to sit at the table anymore.

I am sorry but i cannot tell if you are telling the truth or lying about it based on what you posted at the time you supposedly went to check this.

Which was the post Trfel took out of context?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 11:18 GMT
#280
Well it's work time, i try to at least read the thread at work, it's not supposed to be terrible busy week it seems.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 06 2018 21:13 GMT
#359
Something came up for tomorrow morning so i have to sleep. I will finish reading tomorrow morning.
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