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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 22:30 GMT
#968
On February 08 2018 07:22 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 07:19 disformation wrote:
something def is weird.
there were too many ppl who at some point had both rsoultin and mderg in their scum list or "i could vote for either". or were waffling between the too.
not necessarily scummy. i would have prolly waffled like a mofo as well.
but i guess at least:
trfel, Mocsta, Conversion, Damdred
could prolly have voted for either.
(havent checked everyone yet,)


tbf i also said i was fine with either, but more confident on rsoultin considering the pressure was starting to fall away from her (in the weird, apathetic, way you've described)

that whole wagon was weird. eod too. which is why i thought it was tvt.
like it picked up fairly fast like (i partly blame that nothing else was really going on) and then went to a point where it was kinda meh, but nobody wanted to do anything. then came mdergs bad list and ppl were starting to hop onto that. then there was a bit of waffling and/or ppl not caring between either. at some point ppl decided on which side they wanted to be. partly because no good/big third idea came. then BOTH dont vote to save themselves.

like really didnt expect a scum flip out of that one.

though i guess the logical conclusions are indeed:
a) both wagons scum
b) scum had 0 thread presence

i guess it is not impossible that someone bussed really hard for really no reason? but imo the whole building up of that wagon doesnt really feel like that?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 22:31 GMT
#971
a) and b) dont both have to be true at the same time.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 22:35 GMT
#974
On February 08 2018 07:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 07:30 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:22 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:19 disformation wrote:
something def is weird.
there were too many ppl who at some point had both rsoultin and mderg in their scum list or "i could vote for either". or were waffling between the too.
not necessarily scummy. i would have prolly waffled like a mofo as well.
but i guess at least:
trfel, Mocsta, Conversion, Damdred
could prolly have voted for either.
(havent checked everyone yet,)


tbf i also said i was fine with either, but more confident on rsoultin considering the pressure was starting to fall away from her (in the weird, apathetic, way you've described)

that whole wagon was weird. eod too. which is why i thought it was tvt.
like it picked up fairly fast like (i partly blame that nothing else was really going on) and then went to a point where it was kinda meh, but nobody wanted to do anything. then came mdergs bad list and ppl were starting to hop onto that. then there was a bit of waffling and/or ppl not caring between either. at some point ppl decided on which side they wanted to be. partly because no good/big third idea came. then BOTH dont vote to save themselves.

like really didnt expect a scum flip out of that one.

though i guess the logical conclusions are indeed:
a) both wagons scum
b) scum had 0 thread presence

i guess it is not impossible that someone bussed really hard for really no reason? but imo the whole building up of that wagon doesnt really feel like that?

I unserstand you dont want to hive me all credit because otherwise I wil get shot but pls give me all the credit.

is this a mugging?
can I keep my ID, its super annoying to replace those.

*hands Koshi all his credits*
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 22:39 GMT
#977
On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.

Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too.

Did some1 play my game for the brownies?

dont think so. meant to ask.
i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer.
since the "known good" players were widely townread.
if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 22:58 GMT
#996
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD

Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.

On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.

Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too.

Did some1 play my game for the brownies?

dont think so. meant to ask.
i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer.
since the "known good" players were widely townread.
if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier?

No. I just read up to the lynch.
And the answer is conversion indeed.
So many townreads. Even mderg townread him.
Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates.

huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate?
conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 23:08 GMT
#1006
On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD

Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.

On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.

Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too.

Did some1 play my game for the brownies?

dont think so. meant to ask.
i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer.
since the "known good" players were widely townread.
if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier?

No. I just read up to the lynch.
And the answer is conversion indeed.
So many townreads. Even mderg townread him.
Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates.

huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate?
conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all.

Why is it for conversion different than others?

lets see if i can explain.
with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did.
with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well".
bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion.
does that make sense to you?
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 23:15 GMT
#1013
On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD

Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.

On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.

Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too.

Did some1 play my game for the brownies?

dont think so. meant to ask.
i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer.
since the "known good" players were widely townread.
if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier?

No. I just read up to the lynch.
And the answer is conversion indeed.
So many townreads. Even mderg townread him.
Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates.

huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate?
conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all.

Why is it for conversion different than others?

lets see if i can explain.
with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did.
with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well".
bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion.
does that make sense to you?
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:


Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.

wait did i say better?
more likely to be scum.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 23:20 GMT
#1016
hum? "but his points on rsoultin resonate very well with me".
still read it as "i really like his points on rsoultin" (implying he likes conversion and dislikes rsoultin)

so dont think (2) is true?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 23:25 GMT
#1022
On February 08 2018 08:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 08:15 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD

Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.

On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.

Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too.

Did some1 play my game for the brownies?

dont think so. meant to ask.
i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer.
since the "known good" players were widely townread.
if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier?

No. I just read up to the lynch.
And the answer is conversion indeed.
So many townreads. Even mderg townread him.
Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates.

huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate?
conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all.

Why is it for conversion different than others?

lets see if i can explain.
with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did.
with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well".
bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion.
does that make sense to you?
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:


Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.

wait did i say better?
more likely to be scum.

ah ok. Then we are seeing the same thing.
I am tired so it is probably me.

meh tired too. prolly will go to bed soon.
happy we are seeing the same things though
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 23:29 GMT
#1026
any specific reason on rayn? think i need to read his filter tomorrow.
for damdy i guess it is his vote / waiting out eod?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 23:40 GMT
#1040
On February 08 2018 08:32 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 08 2018 08:20 disformation wrote:
hum? "but his points on rsoultin resonate very well with me".
still read it as "i really like his points on rsoultin" (implying he likes conversion and dislikes rsoultin)

so dont think (2) is true?
I wrote poorly, apologies, as im jumping to a prediction/conclusion.

I view mderg as struggling to speak anything meaningful.
He has this stupid vague list post, yet, can agree about rsoultin.. how specific and peculiar?

my jumping conclusion (i.e assumption) is because he knows rsoultin is scum, so believes it.

apologies.

ah. so you are basically agreeing that there is something odd in conversion stuff, but it might be about rsoultin not conversion?

hm. i guess its not impossible. i still think it is more likely to be conversion? as koshi pointed out scum is not entirely unlikely to copy bad town reads on their mates.
might want to sleep about that though getting real tired xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 09:02 GMT
#1152
On February 08 2018 17:28 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
It's probably frustrating to try and better yourself and your play to be met with the same results that you had previously.


What, two people scumreading him? I think it was just koshi and mocsta.

I know that emotions aren't logical by definition but I usually find the reasons for them make sense.

*cough* *cough*
but its cool. i gave all my creds to koshi already.

confused why conv arbitrarily decided im tpwn gor it when he has mocsta and koshi as scum. or omgus targets.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 09:07 GMT
#1154
On February 08 2018 17:17 Trfel wrote:
Found my own answer, probably shouldn't be playing mafia this late

I guess I'm pretty confident that Conversion is town. Emotional outburst aside even. I don't think it's suspicious of him at all at end of day. If he's mafia, why would he set himself up for a switch into mderg, and then stay the course on rsoultin even when it's not looking good? And again, mderg wasn't trying to survive, he was giving up. It doesn't make sense for mderg and Conversion to be a team here; Conversion wouldn't try to save an mderg who wasn't trying to save himself.

There's more to it than that, his reads themselves I feel show actual desire to solve the game and good thinking. He seems invested in his reads and the lynches and is willing to interact with others to help solve the game together. Some of the stuff he says is ridiculously suspicious (like saying he needs to read his own filter more carefully) but I don't think that's significant because mafia wouldn't be inclined to say that either. I don't have much reason to lynch him and I have plenty of reasons to townread him.

the weird thing is that a lot of ppl were super waffly about the lynch yesterday (as i pointed out) until late.
so its not easy to tell. maybe the two scum didnt want to be close together on the same wagon. maybe 1-2 were afk.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 11:30 GMT
#1219
@Trfl:
wat u think about:
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:
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On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD

Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.

On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD

Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.

On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.

Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too.

Did some1 play my game for the brownies?

dont think so. meant to ask.
i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer.
since the "known good" players were widely townread.
if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier?

No. I just read up to the lynch.
And the answer is conversion indeed.
So many townreads. Even mderg townread him.
Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates.

huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate?
conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all.

Why is it for conversion different than others?

lets see if i can explain.
with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did.
with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well".
bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion.
does that make sense to you?
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:


Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 11:33 GMT
#1220
On February 08 2018 20:30 disformation wrote:
@Trfl:
wat u think about:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD

Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD

Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.

On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.

Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too.

Did some1 play my game for the brownies?

dont think so. meant to ask.
i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer.
since the "known good" players were widely townread.
if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier?

No. I just read up to the lynch.
And the answer is conversion indeed.
So many townreads. Even mderg townread him.
Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates.

huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate?
conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all.

Why is it for conversion different than others?

lets see if i can explain.
with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did.
with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well".
bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion.
does that make sense to you?
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:


Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.

to specify:
with the first part i dont mean his eod (you already expalined and i can see that), but the @Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1? tidbit.
2nd part is the other way around, meaning mderg's strange entry on conv in the list.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 11:36 GMT
#1225
other random stuff. i think mocsta and rsoultin were talking about mbti at some point. imma istj. use that info as you want.
On February 08 2018 20:02 Koshi wrote:
12 pages of filter. Not going through that on mobile.

But the post in which rsoultin is angry after I call her out that she isnt doing shit and just filling her filter with drabble sounded supertownie.

No not supertownie but supergenuine.


She entered game and rayn took a giant dump on her. She is pissed and leaves. She enters thread with new hopes and tries her best and koshi yells at her saying she is doing shit all and is useless.
=
Outburst that every townie would have.

Mafia would be fake insulted. She was super genuine.


Rsoultin almost never mafia rayn. The acting of emotional feelings are INSANE FUCKING BRILLIANT.

yeah, that is why my gut was calling her town yesterday as well. think i mentioned that yesterday as well.
would give you more creds, but you already have all of them.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 11:49 GMT
#1231
yeah with what i've seen so far i am cool with df / have no desire to lynch him.
honestly just by poe i pretty much end up with the same list as koshi.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 12:33 GMT
#1235
On February 08 2018 21:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 20:36 disformation wrote:
other random stuff. i think mocsta and rsoultin were talking about mbti at some point. imma istj. use that info as you want.
On February 08 2018 20:02 Koshi wrote:
12 pages of filter. Not going through that on mobile.

But the post in which rsoultin is angry after I call her out that she isnt doing shit and just filling her filter with drabble sounded supertownie.

No not supertownie but supergenuine.


She entered game and rayn took a giant dump on her. She is pissed and leaves. She enters thread with new hopes and tries her best and koshi yells at her saying she is doing shit all and is useless.
=
Outburst that every townie would have.

Mafia would be fake insulted. She was super genuine.


Rsoultin almost never mafia rayn. The acting of emotional feelings are INSANE FUCKING BRILLIANT.

yeah, that is why my gut was calling her town yesterday as well. think i mentioned that yesterday as well.
would give you more creds, but you already have all of them.

I know. You are a very smart man.

not sure if you are saying me is a smartie for a) the stuff on rsoultin b) giving you all my creds c) both

... its b) isnt it? xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 12:48 GMT
#1237
if you are trying to pocket/buddy me...
you are extremely successful. :p
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 13:37 GMT
#1246
On February 08 2018 22:11 Conversion wrote:
Assuming Mocsta is the real mad hatter, I will die by next day.

I am of the mindset that there is one mafia in Damdred/rayn/prplhz, and one mafia outside of it. Two mafia makes the game too easy, and mderg cruise controlled to make rsoultin and I look bad. Good play EoD on his end with how the lynch played out, although I still believe that saving himself would have bought more time as mafia.

Game looks way too easy as it seems if the entire mafia pool was in the three I mentioned above, but maybe I will be wrong and town will have an easy victory.

any specific reasons for damdy/rayn/prpl?
who would be your top pick for the scum outside of those 3?
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