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TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 04 2018 16:53 GMT
#7
Hello,

/in. Hopefully goes better than the one game I played in real life.

TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 06 2018 00:01 GMT
#16
On January 05 2018 19:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2018 01:53 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello,

/in. Hopefully goes better than the one game I played in real life.


welcome!

Thanks!

Questions about the blue people.
-Does veteran have to activate his/her's bullet proof vest or is it just a passive thingy?
-Does cop only show alignment and not role correct? Godfather says checks on him will show as a normal town role, but then cop says it shows only alignment.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 06 2018 02:44 GMT
#18
On January 06 2018 09:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 09:01 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 05 2018 19:08 Rels wrote:
On January 05 2018 01:53 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello,

/in. Hopefully goes better than the one game I played in real life.


welcome!

Thanks!

Questions about the blue people.
-Does veteran have to activate his/her's bullet proof vest or is it just a passive thingy?
-Does cop only show alignment and not role correct? Godfather says checks on him will show as a normal town role, but then cop says it shows only alignment.

Vet bullet proof vest is a passive.
Cop shows only alignment. Godfather will appear as town alignment when checked.

Ok! Thanks.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 12 2018 05:25 GMT
#33
On January 11 2018 22:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
I hope y'all realize that you're playing with a two-times nominee for the 2k17 TL Mafia Awards.

Woah. Didn't know you guys had Awards?
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 13 2018 01:31 GMT
#40
On January 12 2018 23:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 14:25 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 11 2018 22:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
I hope y'all realize that you're playing with a two-times nominee for the 2k17 TL Mafia Awards.

Woah. Didn't know you guys had Awards?


I hereby nominate TheTwatyEvildoer for Best Newcomer, Most Impressive Newbie Performance, and Drama Queen. Suck it btdt.

Two more signups and we can start :D

I dont know honestly what's going on, but finally my bitchiness gets the spotlight and proper awards it deserves.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 16 2018 16:47 GMT
#50
On January 17 2018 01:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Poll: What do you prefer?

Wait for a full 13 player game (6)
 
75%

A modified setup to start right away (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: What do you prefer?

(Vote): A modified setup to start right away
(Vote): Wait for a full 13 player game



Damerion and mderg haven't confirmed so we're back at 10 right now.

I don't mind waiting, but I dunno if there are others that would need to drop out if the signups drag on too long. I'll leave it up to you guys to decide.


I do not have a life and thus it does not matter to me if we wait.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 17 2018 22:19 GMT
#60
On January 18 2018 06:29 Damdred wrote:
rabble rabble rabble

Game start

mob with me rabble louder

I would rabble, but I've been bribed by his politeness and the fact he nominated me for awards.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 12:19 GMT
#105
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?

I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
QUOTE]On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh

not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?


Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.[/QUOTE]
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 12:20 GMT
#106
On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?

I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh

not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?


Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.


QQ phone posting is hard
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 12:26 GMT
#109
On January 18 2018 20:56 Damdred wrote:
And so it begins, the hero Damdred enters the building and surveys the damages already done. The mystery would be solved quickly and efficiently because obviously he is the best at what he does. Throwing a note book down on a table he already had names wrote into it.

Slight Town:
Rsoultin
Holyflare
BTDT

Slight Scum:
DF (sorry baby)
Mocsta

Life is unfair when such a great player such as Damdred is on the case, forever isolated from society by his genius. He will win this one even if he had to drag town through it kicking and screaming. And for the itch there is a cream for that just so you know.

TheTwatyEvildoer picked up the notebook in a 3rd person perspective and smacked The Hero Damdred back into 1st person like a regular human being.

That's honestly my biggest pet peeve.

Can you explain to me the BeenThereDoneThat town read? There's not enough there for me to consider either alignment yet, so wondering why you put him in the town pile.

Also you don't think Darthfoley and Mcosta Rico are together right? If so, why?
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 12:31 GMT
#110
On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?

I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh

not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?


Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.


QQ phone posting is hard


Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense.

But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy

Lol, as and you shall be given.

I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.

If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.

If that makes sense.

TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 12:53 GMT
#119
On January 18 2018 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 18:18 rsoultin wrote:
Note to self: hf ignored question on darth foley entirely in his general sidestepping.


I ignored your question on Mocsta and replied about DF actually.

On the train in I thought about taking back my Mocsta read and was gonna come in and announce that but his later posts still don't say anything other than trying to explain why his initial posts feel weird. He's defending himself instead of making the top tier reads. Don't like.

Especially the /night post.

I think for now, other than your's and BeenThereDoneThst's weird odd comment usage, you can be in the town pile. You seem to actually be discussing and thinking about more than presented.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 12:56 GMT
#121
On January 18 2018 21:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?

I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh

not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?


Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.


QQ phone posting is hard


Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense.

But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy

Lol, as and you shall be given.

I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.

If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.

If that makes sense.



But would DF of thought he would of drawn that much attention to Moc? I don't think so necessarily, its a weak entry for DF in any game, he has little follow through (as he really hasn't posted) so its a bit weak anyway.

But id be happy just lynching moc today anyway.

As for BTDT, mostly its just a gut feeling and I agreed with his insight so he can be an ally for today.

If you rolled mafia, are you going to instantly bash your teammate who already is going to get people looking at them in the manner Darthfoley did?

If Darthfoley was scum with Mcosta Rico, then I would expect him to have presented his "suspections" more strongly since he knows it to be true.

Maybe I am over estimating. Maybe you are under estimating.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 13:01 GMT
#122
On January 18 2018 21:56 Damerion wrote:
Good morning,

I have decided with careful conaideration that Damdred is scum over DarthFoley and Mocsta. Or at least that I would much rather lynch him over both and then reevaluate at that point.

But onto my main point, Damdred is an extremely meta based player and has used exactly 0 points of meta to make his reads this game.

He also is gòing about thw game in a way that is not typical of him, he generally town hunts and only goes after his scum reads day two instead of pushing early day one when he town hunts. He also usually goes off the beaten path and looks where others do not.

And look what he is doing here, he bases his scum read of DarthFoley off one post.

Also I have a slight meta read on Damdred on his word usuage, in that he uses certain words when explaining his reads and he does not use it in any of his posts.

I think Damdred is scum and you all should join me in voting him off.

##vote Damdred


Is meta that thing where people based early reads on a player's past games?

Anyways,

Bold doesn't make since sense everyone who thinks Darthfoley is scum is doing the same.

Can you explain the word usage point more in detail with examples?
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 13:13 GMT
#126
On January 18 2018 22:02 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 21:56 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?

I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh

not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?


Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.


QQ phone posting is hard


Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense.

But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy

Lol, as and you shall be given.

I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.

If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.

If that makes sense.



But would DF of thought he would of drawn that much attention to Moc? I don't think so necessarily, its a weak entry for DF in any game, he has little follow through (as he really hasn't posted) so its a bit weak anyway.

But id be happy just lynching moc today anyway.

As for BTDT, mostly its just a gut feeling and I agreed with his insight so he can be an ally for today.

If you rolled mafia, are you going to instantly bash your teammate who already is going to get people looking at them in the manner Darthfoley did?

If Darthfoley was scum with Mcosta Rico, then I would expect him to have presented his "suspections" more strongly since he knows it to be true.

Maybe I am over estimating. Maybe you are under estimating.


Im an evil person who busses just for lolz and credit when I shouldn't, So yeah I would bash a team mate for lolz like Df did.

But we will see I suppose as long as we can work together and lynch one of them today.

Ah yes, when I feel particularly evil, I Mustang my teammates as well.

I am really glad people took the time to write down all the jargon for mafia on websites ^^

We could. But that's a long time away and no matter whow we look at here, we both have at least one mafia we are hunting for. No time to be complacent with waiting for how many hours till the vote.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 13:19 GMT
#129
On January 18 2018 22:09 Damerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 22:01 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:56 Damerion wrote:
Good morning,

I have decided with careful conaideration that Damdred is scum over DarthFoley and Mocsta. Or at least that I would much rather lynch him over both and then reevaluate at that point.

But onto my main point, Damdred is an extremely meta based player and has used exactly 0 points of meta to make his reads this game.

He also is gòing about thw game in a way that is not typical of him, he generally town hunts and only goes after his scum reads day two instead of pushing early day one when he town hunts. He also usually goes off the beaten path and looks where others do not.

And look what he is doing here, he bases his scum read of DarthFoley off one post.

Also I have a slight meta read on Damdred on his word usuage, in that he uses certain words when explaining his reads and he does not use it in any of his posts.

I think Damdred is scum and you all should join me in voting him off.

##vote Damdred


Is meta that thing where people based early reads on a player's past games?

Anyways,

Bold doesn't make since sense everyone who thinks Darthfoley is scum is doing the same.

Can you explain the word usage point more in detail with examples?


Meta is using past experiences with a player/previous games played, and applying it to current actions. Be it tone, how they approach reads etc..

Damdreds is extremely different at this point, especially considering he has paid attention to no town reads and has not really even interacted with anyone besides you and talks to you like you are confirmed town.

Everyone else can do the same, that does not change the fact that Damdred never really goes after low hanging fruit, eapecially with this ferocity.

I hate to give away the meta point, but he can get over it. Damdred is a super excitable player (which also is missing), and so when he feels like he is onto something hardcore he starts spamming the word Like, which always makes him sound like a valley girl but i digress.

The main point is he seems to lack the excitement of finding scum and this changes the way he plays and points towards a scum game instead of town.

Not saying you are wrong, but since I can't vidcate it. I'm going to focus on the last bit because the prior means I either have to trust you, or play with Damdred before.

I will say he seems to at least had a list of town members a page or two back. I don't know if that is what you refer to as town hunting.

He does seem to have a desire to wait it out to vote. Won't comment further since he was around, and I am in treated in how he will respond. So while I do have some opinion on your read on him, I'm not going to give a way for him to get out of your read.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 13:29 GMT
#131
On January 18 2018 22:18 Damerion wrote:
Currently I have very little to go on, mostly just nulls. I will update that as we go.

I am confident that my read on Damdred is correct however, there is clear scum motivation for what he is doing.

What is your read on Mcosta Rico and DarthFoley?

Damdred just admitted that his meta is to mustang/bus his teammates as mafia. As someone who states he knows his meta, what is your opinion on his reads on them. And what are yours reads on them?
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 13:44 GMT
#140
On January 18 2018 22:33 Damdred wrote:
Thats an interesting meta read on me I guess? And the praise given I enjoy bathing in it.

But I disagree with the read, firstly I do recognize my word usage of the word like has at times.... been extreme. And I am surprised that nobody has really caught it a bit to that point. But once I realized what I was doing a few games ago with getting excited I decided it was time to eliminate it just because as you put it sounding like "a valley girl" is not appealing to me lol.

As for the rest well there just isn't much to go on at this point no? so whats wrong with building a town circle built on what I have seen, people who agree with my view of the game is a good place to start with. Or at least people I do not want to fight with (HF baby don't leave me).

really interesting you came out against me though, not sure what it makes you. I am a hard target so I give you credit damer for coming at me, but also seems like a way to change conversation away from DF and moc who I guess you have at null?


So hm I guess i'm leaning town on damer seems a bit suicidal way to bring attention to himself in that way especially with the game kinda stale?

This post shows the only thing I find scummy about damdred so far. His want to be reactive to what's going on to the game, and general uncommitment.

Reactivness to me is a mafia trait. Mafia needs town to poke holes in one another to manipulate town. This seems to be what damdred is comfortable doing. Most of his posts follow this trend, and his overall mindset seems geared to this.

Plus here he looks like he is squirming in the read section. When I pressured him about his DarthFoley + Mcosta Rico team read, he just eventually submitted to me and focused on allying me.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 13:49 GMT
#141
On January 18 2018 21:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?

I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh

not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?


Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.


QQ phone posting is hard


Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense.

But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy

Lol, as and you shall be given.

I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.

If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.

If that makes sense.



But would DF of thought he would of drawn that much attention to Moc? I don't think so necessarily, its a weak entry for DF in any game, he has little follow through (as he really hasn't posted) so its a bit weak anyway.

But id be happy just lynching moc today anyway.

As for BTDT, mostly its just a gut feeling and I agreed with his insight so he can be an ally for today.

QUOTE]On January 18 2018 22:02 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:56 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 21:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?

I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh

not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?


Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.


QQ phone posting is hard


Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense.

But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy

Lol, as and you shall be given.

I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.

If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.

If that makes sense.



But would DF of thought he would of drawn that much attention to Moc? I don't think so necessarily, its a weak entry for DF in any game, he has little follow through (as he really hasn't posted) so its a bit weak anyway.

But id be happy just lynching moc today anyway.

As for BTDT, mostly its just a gut feeling and I agreed with his insight so he can be an ally for today.

If you rolled mafia, are you going to instantly bash your teammate who already is going to get people looking at them in the manner Darthfoley did?

If Darthfoley was scum with Mcosta Rico, then I would expect him to have presented his "suspections" more strongly since he knows it to be true.

Maybe I am over estimating. Maybe you are under estimating.


Im an evil person who busses just for lolz and credit when I shouldn't, So yeah I would bash a team mate for lolz like Df did.

But we will see I suppose as long as we can work together and lynch one of them today.
[/QUOTE]
Is what I am talking about. He seems really eager to agree with others views that opposes his view. And slowly during our conversation about the team idea, he got more and more less intrested and seem to rather talk about something other than his own idea.
TheTwatyEvildoer
Profile Joined October 2017
United States34 Posts
January 18 2018 13:51 GMT
#142
On January 18 2018 22:49 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 21:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?

I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh

not interested in why my vote is cast that direction?


Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.


QQ phone posting is hard


Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense.

But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy

Lol, as and you shall be given.

I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.

If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.

If that makes sense.



But would DF of thought he would of drawn that much attention to Moc? I don't think so necessarily, its a weak entry for DF in any game, he has little follow through (as he really hasn't posted) so its a bit weak anyway.

But id be happy just lynching moc today anyway.

As for BTDT, mostly its just a gut feeling and I agreed with his insight so he can be an ally for today.

Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 22:02 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:56 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Hello!

Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead.


On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades

On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character....

Fear not, for I... am a comrade!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much?

Because I can,
Because I want to,
Because I desire to...

@DarthFoley: Why do you ask?

On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
[quote]
I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.

Wise words Kmatt.
I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +
Beverly Hills Cop reference.

For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.

However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.

Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more.

On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective.

Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about.
On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:
[quote]

Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already.


So many itches.

A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.

Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.

Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present)

Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper.

Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@

I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious.


QQ phone posting is hard


Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense.

But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy

Lol, as and you shall be given.

I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.

If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.

If that makes sense.



But would DF of thought he would of drawn that much attention to Moc? I don't think so necessarily, its a weak entry for DF in any game, he has little follow through (as he really hasn't posted) so its a bit weak anyway.

But id be happy just lynching moc today anyway.

As for BTDT, mostly its just a gut feeling and I agreed with his insight so he can be an ally for today.

If you rolled mafia, are you going to instantly bash your teammate who already is going to get people looking at them in the manner Darthfoley did?

If Darthfoley was scum with Mcosta Rico, then I would expect him to have presented his "suspections" more strongly since he knows it to be true.

Maybe I am over estimating. Maybe you are under estimating.


Im an evil person who busses just for lolz and credit when I shouldn't, So yeah I would bash a team mate for lolz like Df did.

But we will see I suppose as long as we can work together and lynch one of them today.

Is what I am talking about. He seems really eager to agree with others views that opposes his view. And slowly during our conversation about the team idea, he got more and more less intrested and seem to rather talk about something other than his own idea.

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