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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 27 2018 22:59 GMT
#1441
On January 28 2018 07:55 mderg wrote:
I always like to read arguments that have been blown out of proportion on the internet.
c'mon man, thats not helping

btdt and jat clearly have some sort of history, and no need for this to continue bubbling.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 27 2018 23:05 GMT
#1442
On January 24 2018 03:12 Damerion wrote:
I think BTDT could be scum, there might be a reason to check into him a bit more. DarthFoley could of been distancing himself slightly or just trying to save himself when he voted but doubtful when I think Damdred was the lynch and not many were interested in switching. So perhaps i'll check into him tonight.
As for kmatts forced 5D chesboard joke,
I think the key to the BTDT RB being genuine or planned comes down to this "check"

going to re-read darthfoley case on btdt from day1
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 27 2018 23:11 GMT
#1443
hmm the interesting thing is,

DF was the first to call out BTDT
but the last to vote

he even calls people scummy for acknowleding his BTDT post, but then calling DF scummy.

Going to have to re-read Day1 progression now, to see if DF was "forced" to vote that way
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 27 2018 23:11 GMT
#1444
On January 28 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 03:12 Damerion wrote:
I think BTDT could be scum, there might be a reason to check into him a bit more. DarthFoley could of been distancing himself slightly or just trying to save himself when he voted but doubtful when I think Damdred was the lynch and not many were interested in switching. So perhaps i'll check into him tonight.
As for kmatts forced 5D chesboard joke,
I think the key to the BTDT RB being genuine or planned comes down to this "check"

going to re-read darthfoley case on btdt from day1

I don't quite understand what the RB has to do with that "check"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 27 2018 23:32 GMT
#1445
Does anyone even think I'm actually going to flip mafia lolm
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 27 2018 23:34 GMT
#1446
On January 28 2018 08:11 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
On January 24 2018 03:12 Damerion wrote:
I think BTDT could be scum, there might be a reason to check into him a bit more. DarthFoley could of been distancing himself slightly or just trying to save himself when he voted but doubtful when I think Damdred was the lynch and not many were interested in switching. So perhaps i'll check into him tonight.
As for kmatts forced 5D chesboard joke,
I think the key to the BTDT RB being genuine or planned comes down to this "check"

going to re-read darthfoley case on btdt from day1

I don't quite understand what the RB has to do with that "check"
why check btdt in the first place.
if town and RB, knew he would be green so its "early" information
if scum and faking RB, knew it would support the cop check even once hes lynched as RB

remember, the RB claim came after the cop check

Damerion filter seems very constructed and methodical, so its whether the bTDT check lines up with the uncertainty he was trying to express in the thread.

kids woken up, so will look into this later.
ciao.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 27 2018 23:39 GMT
#1447
On January 28 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
Does anyone even think I'm actually going to flip mafia lolm

I'm pretty sure yeah
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 27 2018 23:39 GMT
#1448
I don't really understand what you're saying but it seems like wifom of the highest order so probably best to ignore it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 27 2018 23:41 GMT
#1449
On January 28 2018 08:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
Does anyone even think I'm actually going to flip mafia lolm

I'm pretty sure yeah


Ok so you've said your piece so how about (while keeping your vote on me) you do a tad more extra work and work on the assumption that I'm going to flip town. You're just going to default to kmatt but that's extremely bad play. You have to reason out why it's kmatt over mocsta or mderg. Your points on mderg are largely irrelevant after reading back to day 2 and his filter tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 27 2018 23:46 GMT
#1450
Also you say you've reread the thread and that led you to all these conclusions about how intuitive mderg and mocsta were at pointing out df but I have to disagree quite a lot because if you actually reread the thread like you said you did then you'd know that df was under major fire and was pretty much the flavour of the thread over damdred (yes damdred got lynched but only just and largely by me yelling). For mafia or town to very very meekly (in mderg and mocsta's case) point to df by saying he's meh (mderg) and a simple picture (mocsta) I feel like you're largely over exaggerating how much they called him out.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 28 2018 00:05 GMT
#1451
On January 28 2018 08:34 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 08:11 mderg wrote:
On January 28 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
On January 24 2018 03:12 Damerion wrote:
I think BTDT could be scum, there might be a reason to check into him a bit more. DarthFoley could of been distancing himself slightly or just trying to save himself when he voted but doubtful when I think Damdred was the lynch and not many were interested in switching. So perhaps i'll check into him tonight.
As for kmatts forced 5D chesboard joke,
I think the key to the BTDT RB being genuine or planned comes down to this "check"

going to re-read darthfoley case on btdt from day1

I don't quite understand what the RB has to do with that "check"
why check btdt in the first place.
if town and RB, knew he would be green so its "early" information
if scum and faking RB, knew it would support the cop check even once hes lynched as RB

remember, the RB claim came after the cop check

Damerion filter seems very constructed and methodical, so its whether the bTDT check lines up with the uncertainty he was trying to express in the thread.

kids woken up, so will look into this later.
ciao.

I still have no idea where you're actually going with this
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 28 2018 00:25 GMT
#1452
I have no problem considering alternative scenarios where you're town. I did and I do that. I still think you're scum though, everything makes sense with you as scum.
For example, I really hate how you're talking to me. You always throw shade at me. I don't know why you would constantly throw small shots at me as town. I can, however, perfectly see you doing this as scum trying to discredit the main dude calling for his lynch.
Sentences like these yesterday:
On January 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like you're lying and you don't have reasons to town read some of them but you're so far gone you don't see another conclusion.

Or this just now:
On January 28 2018 08:46 Holyflare wrote:
because if you actually reread the thread like you said you did then you'd know blablabla ...

Little shots fired at me that crumbles my persona little by little. For the above sentences, you didn't need to start implying I fabricated townreads before even asking me what were these townreads. You didn't need to include this "if you actually read the thread ...", implying I fabricated my reread. The only effect of those small things is do damage to my credibility, they have no other effects.

To answer on the actual matter:
I disagree on Mocsta. If you look at DF's filter, his main subject of discussion was Mocsta. He attacked Mocsta multiple times, and that was the initial reason I, then rsoultin, got suspicious of DF. It's not only the image post, it's all the other ones too.
I agree on mderg that his DF read wasn't strong, especially compared to his reads on you or Damerion. Doesn't change my point about him calling seeing the game as I see it before I did.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 28 2018 00:35 GMT
#1453
On January 28 2018 09:05 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 08:34 Mocsta wrote:
On January 28 2018 08:11 mderg wrote:
On January 28 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
On January 24 2018 03:12 Damerion wrote:
I think BTDT could be scum, there might be a reason to check into him a bit more. DarthFoley could of been distancing himself slightly or just trying to save himself when he voted but doubtful when I think Damdred was the lynch and not many were interested in switching. So perhaps i'll check into him tonight.
As for kmatts forced 5D chesboard joke,
I think the key to the BTDT RB being genuine or planned comes down to this "check"

going to re-read darthfoley case on btdt from day1

I don't quite understand what the RB has to do with that "check"
why check btdt in the first place.
if town and RB, knew he would be green so its "early" information
if scum and faking RB, knew it would support the cop check even once hes lynched as RB

remember, the RB claim came after the cop check

Damerion filter seems very constructed and methodical, so its whether the bTDT check lines up with the uncertainty he was trying to express in the thread.

kids woken up, so will look into this later.
ciao.

I still have no idea where you're actually going with this

Me neither.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 28 2018 00:37 GMT
#1454
You don't know why I'd throw small shots at you? Probably because you're the only one in this game that has been resolute on lynching me for stupid reasons and unwilling to budge or even reconsider and look elsewhere. You ARE wrong and I'm telling you to indulge me because otherwise you're wasting your time twiddling your thumbs. Maybe you should look at your filter and have a good hard look at yourself because the last three pages are you repeatedly saying "because you're mafia", "you're mafia" "I'm so good because you're mafia."

News flash, I'm not actually mafia. I don't care about getting lynched, I'm trying to push the game forward and actually look into alternatives and every time I try and get someone to say something new or look into another person you appear from the shadows with useless shit like "lynch hf!" even though I am still getting lynched and still will be lynched.

I am suspicious of you for this exact reason. Your buddying with jat, your posts which imply you've reread but when I actually look into the context of what you're saying don't actually add up. I don't like it one bit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 28 2018 00:39 GMT
#1455
to answer on the actual matter:
I disagree on Mocsta. If you look at DF's filter, his main subject of discussion was Mocsta. He attacked Mocsta multiple times, and that was the initial reason I, then rsoultin, got suspicious of DF. It's not only the image post, it's all the other ones too.
I agree on mderg that his DF read wasn't strong, especially compared to his reads on you or Damerion. Doesn't change my point about him calling seeing the game as I see it before I did.


So I just want to make sure. The only reason you town read mocsta is because of DF mainly. Also because he posted one picture on myself and DF but he had absolutely no follow up to either of it. I just want to make that absolutely clear for later.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 28 2018 00:41 GMT
#1456
I am discrediting you because the only thing you'll have left after my lynch is a shattered image and people will be able to look at you from a new perspective. A perspective where you haven't researched what you've said properly, a perspective where all YOU did was pop in to discredit ME when I was trying to actually solve the game despite my ultimate demise.

It's easy to discredit someone when what they've done is easily discredited. If you actually had solid concrete evidence on anything that was backed up then it wouldn't be discrediting would it, it would be fabrication and that would be scummy. I am not doing that though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 28 2018 00:45 GMT
#1457
Notice how I've not once tried to shift the lynch elsewhere, not once tried to paint anyone in an ultimately scummy light to direct the lynch to them. The only thing I'm doing is asking questions and trying to point things out. If that's a scummy objective to leave a legacy then so be it. Just realise that you're shitting up the wrong tree.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 28 2018 00:45 GMT
#1458
To me it sounds like you care quite a bit about being lynched
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 28 2018 00:50 GMT
#1459
Not really, I care about rels' alignment more than anything.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 28 2018 01:14 GMT
#1460
On January 28 2018 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
Notice how I've not once tried to shift the lynch elsewhere, not once tried to paint anyone in an ultimately scummy light to direct the lynch to them. The only thing I'm doing is asking questions and trying to point things out. If that's a scummy objective to leave a legacy then so be it. Just realise that you're shitting up the wrong tree.

That's not an actual argument though. There's only one scummer left so scum's first goal right there is survival, not active mislynches. As town, you're not supposed to "paint someone scummy". You're supposed to genuinely read a person and try to find out the alignment. You say "I'm pro-town because I am not painting someone else as scummy just to survive". Yeah, okay, granted, but you're also not giving out genuine reads then. If you'll be confirmed by death, why not try to actually convince people into lynching your strongest scumread after you're dead?
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