On January 24 2018 09:06 Damerion wrote:
Also to give plenty of time for discussion and since I believe it clears more than myself anyway.

Hard claiming cop

Night One I checked Mocsta before my shift and it returned green.

Night two I checked Beentheredonethat and it returned green.

Holyflare caught me softing it and i seem to think it makes him town for me not being shot.

actually, I think the opposite is more likely.

He was already prepped to insinuate godfather.

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 00:14 GMT

#817

On January 24 2018 09:10 Holyflare wrote:
Jat replaced into a hardcore mafia slot though

So for the record: DarthFoley, TWAT/JAT, Mocsta is your team?

How about this.
If you genuinely think im the godfather, push me.
Otherwise, shut up and let JAT post.

I need to think about this cop claim.
Whether cop or mafia, Damerion can rightly say im town.
The BTDT green-check is not unexpected either.

damerion
why check me night 1?

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 00:26 GMT

#822

On January 24 2018 03:12 Damerion wrote:
I think BTDT could be scum, there might be a reason to check into him a bit more. DarthFoley could of been distancing himself slightly or just trying to save himself when he voted but doubtful when I think Damdred was the lynch and not many were interested in switching. So perhaps i'll check into him tonight.

so a check was burnt to confirm the outcome of the darthfoley/btdt day1 wagons.

where does this get us now?

"Confirmed"

Damerion
BTDT
Mocsta

"High Likely Town"
Rels
mderg
Holyflare

"PoE"
TWAT(Jat)
Kmatt

In HF eyes, Kmatt/Mocsta are transferable.

Regardless, a lot of this lines up as I truly believe the ppl posting every day care about this game and are town.

The question is whether a cop would proactively scum hunt Day 1.
The whole issue is, many of us saw the DAmdred meta as a poke. and it was the lack of understanding of the reaction that snowballed into a wagon.
Why cant a cop call someone out?

Going to mull on this. Want to hear from JAT in the meantime.

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 00:29 GMT

#825

On January 24 2018 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
I'm prepped to insinuate godfather because so far only a goon has flipped and vigilante and cop is not balanced against goon/goon/goon so mafia will have a rber/gf/framer somewhere in there.

I'm thinking a rber to counter vig and cop and a gf because it's passive and won't fuck with cop and inordinate amount.

fair enough. but debating game mechanics is not alignment indicative.

This is stupid because if I red-checked you would vote, and if I green-checked you would say godfather.

Why cant BTDT be a godfather? This is now blatant bias.

Again, if you want me to be Day3 focus, go ahead. But front up instead of peppering little comments around.

You are actually making the thread harder for the inactives.

I am going to take the position that the outcome above is unintentional (i.e. no done maliciously)

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 07:00 GMT

#831

On January 24 2018 14:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
I got roleblocked twice in a row

Why not comment on this during Day2?

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 07:19 GMT

#833

i dont get this play whatever.. my head is exploding!

If BTDT is scum (i.e. godfather) and checked green. why come out with this?

(1) like... lets say we believe BTDT... then damerion flips cop... BTDT is auto lynch next cycle.
Thats just totally stupid.

(2) Perhaps both are scum, and want one of them to ride this to the end.
Its not that bad a strategy, now that I think about it. Intent would be to lynch Damerion, who flips anything but cop.
I just think the idea in general is too crazy... what this game is normally 2 blues? This play is forcing an either/or situation which just seems suicidal for scum?

if BTDT is town...
(1) I dont get withholding the info Day2.

Re-reading the darthfoley vote

On January 20 2018 04:58 Conversion wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, ~~Rels~~, Mocsta
beentheredonethat (5): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley

Not Voting (4): Kmatt, beentheredonethat, damdred, prplhz

Given damdred is town, why did he jump onto BTDT.. Did he read rsoultin as biggest town cred and wanted to +1; or did it not matter because damdred/btdt are town?

So this becomes relevant

On January 20 2018 04:39 rsoultin wrote:
But since you're here, where are you on mocsta?

On January 20 2018 04:48 darthfoley wrote:
[talks about mocsta...]

So yea he's still on my scum list.

Also ##Vote: BTDT

On January 20 2018 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
Atm I think BTDT/Mocsta/Kelscier are decent chances to hit scum. Rsoultin as well

So it would appear he is trying to appease Rsoultin by voting with her lead; but moreso, that he then shits on Rsoultin below.

Thats what I dont get. This allows him to remove his vote and put it on Me/Kelsier at any point.
Im stuck.
If BTDT is town, DF vote didtn matter. Damdred or BTDT were getting lynched with 4/4.
If BTDT is scum, DF vote was a little risk, but still didtn matter because damdred reached 4 first.
Was taking a gamble on afk action.
i think thats pretty unlikely action for day1 scum.

This would suggest BTDT is town, damerion is lying.

thoughts people?

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 08:34 GMT

#850

##Vote: Damerion

Nice pickup on vig/cop

About to pull my coffee machine apart - wish me luck

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 09:40 GMT

#859

On January 24 2018 18:12 Rels wrote:

Show nested quote +

the problem with the darthfoley vote on btdt, is that it came about after talkign with rsoultin (who was voting btdt)

hard to say if it was to appease a high town cred person, or an easy town wagon to sheep.

The complexity comes in that his next post he calls rsoultin scum. (amongst btdt/me and kelsier)

if you want to look @ end of wagon, it comes down to whether scum would risk bussing btdt if one of the 2 afk suddenly voted.
i think its very expected on day1 for everyone to vote (heck, everyday, everyone should vote).. so i dont like a world where scum btdt/df were hoping the afks wouldnt hammer btdt.

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 09:41 GMT

#860

On January 24 2018 18:05 justanothertownie wrote:
The only thing I see in his filter is that he apparently got rbed twice.

well roleblocker is more synonymous with vig + protective role

whilst godfather with cop.

i.e. likely that scum have an RB.

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 10:02 GMT

#873

On January 24 2018 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:

Show nested quote +

I wasn't there over the last days.

It doesnt matter anymor

but.. this is bullshit.. you voted on day2..

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 11:19 GMT

#888

On January 24 2018 19:59 mderg wrote:
I don't like the cop claim. Damerion was the prime lynch target and I don't think the checks provide useful information.

that made me chuckle

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 11:34 GMT

#890

On January 24 2018 20:32 Holyflare wrote:
Oh derp maybe I should have read op. Rbs are notified even if player is vanilla. There is also no jk possible.

Nai lol

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 11:34 GMT

#891

I was jk in my first newbie game

Mocsta

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January 24 2018 11:41 GMT

#894

Do you think we can vote for early day?

Mocsta