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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 25 2018 23:33 GMT
#1038
Never mind I can't read.

Do get those reads out when you can.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:01 GMT
#1043
Well alright I'll eat my words.

@rels any particular reason you're gunning for him over me?
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:02 GMT
#1044
never mind lol
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:06 GMT
#1047
Does this theory on HF account for why he would bus him so quickly? I mean the whole thread was kind of against him but with how much he's been on me there wasn't even an attempt on a counterwagon.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:13 GMT
#1051
Could you link me the game where town ignores cop's check? That takes a special kind of stupid.

I'm not above voting him though, he's been on my list anyway. In fact I don't think he's ever not someone I want to lynch.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:17 GMT
#1055
On January 26 2018 09:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 09:08 Rels wrote:
On January 26 2018 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
Does this theory on HF account for why he would bus him so quickly? I mean the whole thread was kind of against him but with how much he's been on me there wasn't even an attempt on a counterwagon.

What do you mean ? HF started the day believing Damerion's claim. Then nothing happened apart from me and JAT voting Damerion, and then after the votes started to pile up he decided to vote him. It's definitely not a quick bus.


what?

he got counter claimed and I voted for him and then he didn't actually post any reads


when was this?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:17 GMT
#1057
On January 26 2018 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
Does this theory on HF account for why he would bus him so quickly? I mean the whole thread was kind of against him but with how much he's been on me there wasn't even an attempt on a counterwagon.


Can you actually elaborate on who you want to lynch? So far all I've got is:

Twat/JAT: For being towny and then afking.
Mocsta: For saying a lot of words and then doing nothing.
Me: ????????

So any kind of elaboration and whys would be great.


Why do you even care about my reads? I'm Damerion's godfather partner, remember?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:24 GMT
#1060
I'll have fresh reads out before night ends then.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:27 GMT
#1061
What confuses me here is that your posts up until now were that

A) Damerion is scum
B) I'm buddying him, and therefore also scum

Then Damerion flips red, you get perfect validation of your theory, yet somehow I'm less than 100% scum despite nothing happening to change the above interpretation. The only reason Rels doesn't have me as scum is because he specifically targets you.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:55 GMT
#1064
No I just can't buy this.

On January 26 2018 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
because if you're not mafia like rels is implying then you'll be next after I die and it would be good to get your reads out in the open you know?


I hate hate hate this post. How on Earth does Town!Holyflare back off now of all times? I don't pretend to have memorized meta, but I just can't accept anything but a full game-ending crusade against me at this point. I'll be the first to admit that my game so far is abysmal. I can't play town for shite to begin with, and this is a particularly foul example. You have every reason to doubt me. And you did! Repeatedly! There was a wall of text a few pages back.

Town!Holyflare has this game served to him on a silver platter. The only thing that happened between then and now is a red flip that you predicted when I defended him to the end. Suddenly Rels calls the banners and now you doubt my scumminess. I could almost see you going full OMGUS and turning on Rels, but you just alluded to him being town too. The only reason someone could reasonably townread me at this point is PoE (which requires a stronger scumread than me, which you didn't have an hour ago) or pure gut.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:56 GMT
#1065
On January 26 2018 09:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +

I understand that Holyflare is one of the best player on this website. I understand that his play cannot be compared directly to someone like Kmatt, as way more is expected from town!Holyflare. I understand that he was red checked as scum once and he managed to get the cop lynched, then survive another lynch to win. I will lynch him tomorrow.

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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 00:58 GMT
#1066
The previously referenced case on me:
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On January 25 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
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On January 25 2018 08:21 Rels wrote:
On January 25 2018 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
You are massively missing Kmatt's posts.

The recent posts where he doesn't want to lynch Damerion against everyone are actually pretty townie.


No, they are really quite the opposite. Pull your head out of your arse and actually read the content he is writing that has to do with roles that nobody has talked about and shows he's thinking in a mafia way that nobody would think about (yes, Mocsta just posted about this later but that's far far later than this immediate response):


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On January 24 2018 15:00 Kmatt wrote:
As much as I dislike HF's post for reasons Mocsta stated above, a Godfather is certainly on the table.

I'd be happy lynching the Twat Slot/JAT today.

BTDT is sketchy too, but I'm still unsure how to interpret his roleblock claim. I know if I was playing as Godfather I could use that excuse if I knew the people who had been roleblocked are dead and I can claim it uncontested. If there's no RB in a (semi-)closed setup then I'd be even bolder to take that potential credit. I'll wait to hear more on him.



Look at the certainty by "Yes, a Godfather is on the table" and the way he thinks about claiming rbs from people that are dead.

Then also look at how he goes about throwing suspicion. 90% of his post is dedicated to wifom about roles and what mafia would do and literally one sentence is dedicated to the person who he actually scum reads but it has NO information whatsoever about that slot!

Show nested quote +

Real quick, does anyone find Twat to be sketchy at this point? I had him casually marked as town like most people earlier, but he ducked out immediately after asking a question earlier.


The person he wants to lynch the most is because of this reason + the continued afking. Nothing more. He wants to lynch a slot that he townread.

THEN don't even get me started on how many times he's defended damerion trying to get us to wagon someone else AND also draw out a blue today.

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On January 25 2018 02:36 Kmatt wrote:
I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches.


Let's just look at that last sentence too:

MAYBE HF.

But nothing has changed with me today so why is my name there? It's literally because people are throwing my name around and making me a viable lynch. This is what he's had to say about me the entire game:

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On January 24 2018 15:06 Kmatt wrote:
Beyond that I'm willing to accept Damerion's claim(s), which puts the remaining potential townies at Mocsta/Rels/HF/Mderg. Rels is on the nice list, as is Mderg. HF is still HF, but he's certainly not my vote today. Mocsta is more null to me. A lot of text but nothing stands out to say "This guy is town". Cop checks are a bit more reliable than my gut, so until we get into a 4-way cop claim-off I'll let him slide.


^ TODAY

Mocsta is null, lot of words no content.
BTDT is suspicious and he questions the RB.
JAT has replaced twat who he is randomly suspicious of but that name doesn't appear.
My name does.

Why?

There is no congruence throughout his filter. He appears at random points in the thread to drop a comment here and there with irrelevance and the most active he's been in this game is to defend damerion. He also hipster defended damdred for 0 reasons whatsoever too.

Plz lynch after today.

We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 20:35 GMT
#1273
On January 27 2018 03:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
whoa Rels calm your tits, keep the caps to yourself and don't spam question marks


Yeah, we already have one Holyflare.

Give me a sec to go back and reply to 5+ posts
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 20:42 GMT
#1274
On January 27 2018 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
Read this. Absorb it. How on earth does this game make sense in that way? If he is town why has town Holyflare got this game served up on a silver platter? This is backwards thinking in totality. He has gone:


Because Town!Holyflare was winning this game on cruise control. You, on the other hand, took the nonsensical logical twist of:

Damerion is scum and Kmatt is scum as well
>Damerion flips scum
Therefore, Kmatt must not be scum

We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 26 2018 21:07 GMT
#1279
On January 27 2018 05:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 05:42 Kmatt wrote:
On January 27 2018 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
Read this. Absorb it. How on earth does this game make sense in that way? If he is town why has town Holyflare got this game served up on a silver platter? This is backwards thinking in totality. He has gone:


Because Town!Holyflare was winning this game on cruise control. You, on the other hand, took the nonsensical logical twist of:

Damerion is scum and Kmatt is scum as well
>Damerion flips scum
Therefore, Kmatt must not be scum



If you are town how am I winning the town on cruise control?


Because town!Holyflare doesn't know anyone else's alignment. You named no other scumreads that I can recall save for damerion and myself. You just lynched one of those.

On January 27 2018 05:44 Holyflare wrote:
I also never called you not mafia


On January 26 2018 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
because if you're not mafia like rels is implying then you'll be next after I die and it would be good to get your reads out in the open you know?


Why is that post even on the table then? Was there some lapse of townreading going on or are we both delusional?
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 27 2018 16:09 GMT
#1389
I love how every time I come back here I find some variant of "kmatt disappeared out of nowhere wtf". I'm pretty sure "United States" appears next to my name. Lrn2hemisphere

Anyway as for the current gamestate.

JaT: Town. Twat was mostly a townread until I started suspecting him towards the end of D1/D2, but JaT has filled the shoes nicely. Also for noticing the BTDT roleblock thing. Only a mafia player managing a 5D chessboard would have thought to fake that so far in advance.

BTDT: Town by power of claim

Mderg: Not a ton of impact but nothing scummy. A lot of the claims he threw out, especially early seemed a little too bold for typical mafia. Not sure if that's his meta or whatever but I can townread him easily enough.

Rels: A bit of buddying, and definitely goes against the grain by believing in me, but I see it as towny tunneling on HF. If he believes HF is scum then he has to be able to excuse me. Mafia!Rels would be just as happy to have the easy lynch (Me) to be next in line if he knew HF was going to flip green.

Holyflare: still want to lynch him

mcosta: Don't have a hard read on this guy, but while looking over the filter I'll take this minute to claim that there was no ulterior motive to not voting D1. I had been in the thread earlier, hadn't made up my mind on voting, went out to do something that night an checked in on the thread realizing that I didn't actually know when the deadline was.
Also I don't know what his shtick is with the BTDT not-being-confirmed business.
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