Newbie Student Mafia XXVIII - Page 2

On January 19 2018 06:04 Holyflare wrote:


So you're saying you like what I said but it's pretty nai?

On January 19 2018 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
Blah phone posting. HF is adding nothing while egging some things on and pissing on others. Which if he is scum and that's a lovely ego stroke to catch him early, is super interesting.

Dismissing suspicion on df, throwing inscrutable shade on mocsta, cheering on a Damdred lynch that would probably be a town lynch.

On January 19 2018 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
I will try to organise my thoughts in a concise why.

Main issue is the damdred discussion. The impression I get is that damerion has a meta read that he is very proud of but in those situations you have to be careful not to get too excited and see the read everywhere. I think this may be the case, especially with how early he came out with it. I believe damerion mentioned damdred going on df with "ferocity". That's where he lost if for me. I didn't see damdred being ferocious at all. In fact I didn't feel he was really pushing a scum read that hard.

I don't know where I have damdred, he has done things I like and things I don't like. For damerion...Is he misguided overeager town or scum...probably over eager town.


I think Twaty and rsoultin are both town. I've agreed with most everything that Tina has said and I knew she would like costa. They both post in similair style. Costa's enthusiasm is enough for a tone read pass D1.

my scummy reads come from people who agree on the damdred wagon when they should probably know better. I think hf questioning damdred on his df and costa both being scum was bad. To me that was a guy giving two people who in his opinion have made questionable posts. Not considering partners at that stage. Rels is similar as a guy who has popped up with some one liners and then latched onto this damdred read.

I don't like Mderg I think his disappointment at the thread felt fake and his 10 page hf point was not my experience of hf at all. In general I have disagreed with almost everything he said apart from his agreement that damerion is just too aggro. So I could see Mderg knowing both damdred and damerion are town and trying to get some credit later...maybe im just biased with that .

Right now i'd lynch HF, rels, Mderg and prplhz because his 2 day afk is just bullshit.

I like kmatt but just because his 4d chess comment was really funny.

Sorry this turned into a ramble.

On January 19 2018 07:22 rsoultin wrote:


-snorts- damerion started the Damdred train. And your point is honestly retarded if you actually believe it. You think scum Damdred says yes this meta point that only you've noticed or mentioned is right but I only now just changed it, rather than ignore it or shrug it off as wrong? It's not even that this is your argument, it's that you see it like a smoking gun, apparently.

And it wasn't even pointed out by you first.

On January 19 2018 07:38 rsoultin wrote:


...I have no way to gauge the veracity of that as I don't know damerion from Adam and I agree that he looks confirmation biased, with whoever said that who I've forgotten.

I'm not even sure if you would believe Damdred could panic like that or not...I've never really seen that reaction from him that I can recall.

I don't think the read is right though and sont like your piggyback. I need you to genuinely play if you're town and stop being a lazy ass.

On January 19 2018 07:43 KelsierSC wrote:
HF do you have any thoughts on BDTD or rels?

On January 19 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
Let me try to explain why this is nonsense. Damerion lays down a long meta read, including damdred's method of looking for town d1 to narrow down to a scumread (which is true but disregards that this does not preclude Damdred from also getting slight scumreads) and adds this valley girl point:

He gets excited and uses like a lot! He's not doing that. Must be scum.

Damdred: I noticed that and have been tryin to change it.

Holyflare: you admitted to saying like a lot when you're town and you're not doing it! Scum claim!

While I can see the coincidence being suspicious hf's response is entirely disingenuous. There is no way that he thinks this makes Damdred slam dunk scum. He is not retarded.

On January 19 2018 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
In fact I am almost 100% sure you used the same read on me last time?

On January 19 2018 17:12 rsoultin wrote:


It doesn't make sense as a scum response, holyflare. Panic response doesn't explain it and unpanicked response explains it even less.

I get its weirdly coincidental but it's just obviously not believable.

On January 19 2018 17:14 rsoultin wrote:

Lol what?

I expect you to want to figure out my alignment and work with me. I don't require you to be superman.

Nor do I believe for an instant that you don't consider yourself a good town player. When did that happen?

On January 19 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:


I just tunneled him before incorrectly and dont trust my eh feel about him.

-squints at- Maaaybe I could believe your gameplay has changed. It hadn't in my last scum game but that was awhile ago. I can kinda see your Damdred thing now...I just find it weird that Ian would even know he said like as town and not as scum.

Someone used smiley percentages to read me and I had no clue if that was right or not. Who counts how many times they say like? So I find it a weird thing for scum to panic about.

And if he didn't panic that response doesn't make sense.

On January 19 2018 18:01 Holyflare wrote:


I don't believe he knows that as EITHER alignment. If Damerion is town and Damdred is mafia then Damdred knows categorically that Damerion isn't lying and so it must be true. Or at least he thinks it to be true. This is why the only correct response as town is to say "well your meta is wrong then" whereas his response is to acknowledge it's true and that he's changing it conveniently. It's sheer mafia survival and panic.

On January 19 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:


To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum.

Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him.

Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics.