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justanothertownie
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On February 02 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote: After calling me hard town. You then proceed to flip me for no reason. 2 town lychds bruh What is he supposed to do if he is town? Keep townreading you? | ||
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justanothertownie
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On February 02 2018 20:13 Koshi wrote: I did by far the most analysis the last day btw. Read all filters multile times. And made 200 posts. Dnu why you are so upset. I did moaaaar than enough Then it should't even be a lot of effort for you to summarize for me why mocsta is mafia. Go. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On February 02 2018 20:21 Koshi wrote: What I do is not important. Why I do what I do is important. Either I do this as mafia to wifom you. Or I do this as town do have fun. Or I do it as mafia to wifom you and have fun I guess. Anyway. I do things. You react on that. I do other things. Didnt think you would be so salty. You could also just enjoy this ride!! Maybe I am mafia. Maybe I am town. I dont really feel like trying to convince you here. You have Mocsta, a very active player through the game. You have Koshi, active replacement who played his hearth out yesterday. Your decision. The evidence is in the thread. You cant blame me for not playing in a game there is nothing to solve. I know the answer. Yes, you know the answer. I don't. So it is YOUR job to help me see it. That is literally the point of playing mafia. I do not expect you to beg, I expect you do not be a bitch and help me win this game if you are town | ||
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justanothertownie
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On February 02 2018 20:24 Koshi wrote: The only thing left for me is to make 100% sure JAT is not mafia. Everything else is not in my hands. Wouldn't that be awesome?  | ||
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justanothertownie
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And you will be for quite a while. Sucks to be you I guess. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On February 02 2018 20:56 Mocsta wrote: jat.. koshi keeps appealing to your fear im showing you facts. koshi knew I was sided with mderg koshi knew the final 3 with me + mderg is GG koshi kills mderg knowing you will side with him dont fall for this immature emotional bullshit Koshi is literally doing the opposite. He was doing his best for me to lynch him. I don't see why the other final 3 would be gg. I also don't see why koshi would know that I will side with him when during the night I literally gave reasons for him to be mafia and not you. | ||
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Heavily leaning towards him being the mafia and am quite unlikely to change my mind about it. | ||
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justanothertownie
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I never understood the cases on Kmatt. There was only one post in his filter that was somewhat scummy to me and now I can't even seem to find it anymore... Koshi has been 100 % standard town koshi so far. If he is mafia he is doing an incredible job of faking that. The only reason he could be mafia is this stupid swag play after acting like my opinion about the game actually means something to him and the fact that he apparently disappeared before the rels lynch even though he was present for the flip. I also think there are a few things that make this seem unlikely. I thought about Damerions claim and I seriously think it is a horrible play in a df/kmatt/damerion world. It literally resulted in most people putting kmatt in a 2 player poe pool with my slot. What is this supposed to achieve? Damerion as a claimed cop will never survive the game once kmatt is dead. If Mocsta is mafia on the other hand this claim makes sense either way. If it works mocsta is off the table due to the green check. If it doesn't then that is also fine since mocsta tried to distance from damerion quite a bit. Koshi also knows that it is a terrible idea to take me into the final 3. The only reason he would do that is to gain awards or some shit. Mocsta on the other hand could have deemed it a good idea (more on this when I explain why I think he is the mafia). If I am wrong here Koshi will probably try to annoy me for all eternity and I will feel bad for failing HF a second time this game but I can't go against my own believe here. Mocsta, I will summarize my reasons for thinking you are mafia later today which gives you a window of about 14 hours from now on to convince me I am wrong even though I doubt you will succeed with that. Afterwards I have social obligations to attend. | ||
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justanothertownie
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You have a very good filter to show with a lot of involvement from start to finish (fantastic if you are mafia really). But I think you planned a very active game before you knew your alignment. It is almost as if you are trying to use as many different and rare words and stylistic means as possible in the early game. Now, that is not scummy. But it is not towny either and it makes your content seem more voluminous than it really is. If I take a look at how this content is divided though we get into problems. Yes, you and df go after each other early in the game. But it isn't really dangerous at all and not an inconceivable thing to think of this as a soft bus. And you constantly bring this up all game in a subtle way. Your filter is littered with "there are tons of interesting interactions of the flipped mafia on day1". You never show any of that but that's ok since the point of it is to make people think you are town for the df soft bus. Really smooth. More important is the way you go about it when the day progresses. You don't ever try to really get df to show his colours. You just declare he is mafia and dismiss him. You do not spark discussion about him like you do with a lot of other people. He is just mafia and you aren't interested in talking about it. The same goes for Damerion later on too. It is really different how you treat those 2 compared to townies. You aren't trying to figure them out - you are just declaring them mafia without doing anything about it while your vote always magically ends up on a townie in the end. Damdred first, then prplhz. Your actions do not match your words. Also, even after declaring him mafia you instantly believe damerions claim and only flip your read when he is about to go down. Why? If you thought he is mafia a healthy scepsis would have been warranted. Like I already mentioned a few times I also dislike your anger about the btdt rb thing. It seems to me like you were furious because someone you planned as a mislynch later on got cleared by something very stupid. When HF was lynched you supposedly would have preferred a kmatt lynch. But you never did anything to actually make it happen. You even voted HF yourself. Does not look like you had a problem with it at all. Same goes for the Rels lynch. You still claimed you would rather lynch koshi. But still you weren't going after your #1 scumread in earnest. In a weird twist of events you even voted "confirmed town" mderg in the end. Mind boggling if you are town. In general I do not get how a townie can declare mderg (and rels before) town as confidently as you did while still claiming that btdt could be mafia despite the rb claim. You townread yourself into a corner with this too because you could never have gone after mderg in final 3 (so it technically doesn't really make a difference to you if you shoot him or me). You always had to lynch Koshi. And for some reason you seem to have thought I would let you do that which will be your biggest mistake this game if i am right. I think (and some of your comments do allude to this) you expected me to not give a shit or try in LYLO which is something Koshi would never ever have assumed. The btdt kill also makes sense to me now. Your whole "JAT is blue" stuff during the night made no sense to me from a town point of view. But you tried to use it specifically to make Koshi look bad via the "he only read the qt" story. I think you hedged by shooting him so either he is actually the doc and dies OR I am actually the blue and you can claim to have made this awesome play and that Koshi is mafia for it. tldr: The Kmatt/Koshi slot seems very town to me, you treated the flipped mafia palyers very differently than townies and in a world where you are mafia everything including the weird nightkills makes at least some sense. ##Vote: Mocsta | ||
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justanothertownie
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On February 03 2018 08:37 Koshi wrote: I knew you would know. And I still like to win. So good stuff JAT. Tbh. in addition to all of the things I wrote the game is somewhat irrelevant to me if you should be mafia since Kita just replaced the last mafia on the day he was going to be lynched, And this seemed really honest btw. (and understandably so): | ||
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On January 31 2018 20:31 mderg wrote: Not the most impressive day1, some pressure on df but latched onto the damdred wagon. I don't particularly like his reasons for voting damdred. Took a very strong stance on df being scum in night1, though. Lots of long-winded explanations throughout the whole game which often made me struggle to see where he's going. On January 31 2018 21:03 mderg wrote: Day3 was hard to follow his thought process, lots of theorizing, some defending of Damerion but not really committing to it. Was convinced of Damerion's scumminess by jat. "Sheeped" Hf on kmatt. I kind of liked him going against the thread to lynch kmatt over hf. Didn't particularly like the "everyone who cares is probably" town line of reasoning. On January 31 2018 21:13 mderg wrote: Day4 was kind of dead, Mocsta wanted kmatt over hf lynch. Not sure why he voted hf, though. Overall a decent amount of prodding, some good posts and thoughts, often missing direction, difficult to follow his thought process. The things he said were townie, the things he did a bit less so. | ||
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On February 03 2018 10:00 Mocsta wrote: P.s. Mdeeg in no way shape or form indicates im the best lynch in LYLO You are making connections to suit your theory Well, good thing I never said this then. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On February 03 2018 09:59 Mocsta wrote: Is your mind made up by the vote Or is it now a countdown? Its saturday. A family day. And im not going to put in further effort unless there is a chance to change the outcome. I will always reevaluate if you present a convincing argument. But 12 hours from now I will leave and from then on I can only check the thread really sparsely if at all. | ||
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On February 03 2018 10:37 Mocsta wrote: I struggle to believe this is true even if you believe it. You read koshi more town than me and now are choosing to interpret things scummy that you strongly did not prior due solely to PoE and connections to suit your narrative. Whlst its frustrating to have invested 2 weeks into this, I dont blame you for our loss. Its me who should come across townier to you. Theres not much more to be said. All your points raised prior about me are wrong and 180 from views held ALL game by multiple strong town players. Enjoy your weekend. It is true that before I started reading your filter I was already biased by my koshi read. But it is not true that I interpret things differently now. I just never read your filter before and had a good feeling about you due to your general involvement. There are a lot of things I missed because of that. I guess that would be the same for the strong town players you mention and it is rather unfair since I am quite sure they never did and indepth readthrough of your filter with the kind of information I have now. Also most of them were already dead when koshi joined the game. If I am wrong I am wrong and apparently actually let myself be influenced by a good acting performance of koshi. But I doubt it. If you are town and we lose this is on me though, no worries. | ||
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