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On December 12 2017 08:05 darthfoley wrote: No. I never get in shit fights with people Then why do you play mafia? | ||
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On December 12 2017 08:09 Forumite wrote: Closed setup, we don´t even get possible roles. Hi prplhz. Are you scum or town? Hi Forumite. Yes. | ||
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Incriminating or down right damning? | ||
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On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote: BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting. Setup talking is sometimes a good way to scum hunt as town and scum sometimes think differently about it. Scum hunting off of a couple of "Hi"-posts is unlikely to yield results, no? | ||
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On December 12 2017 08:14 Forumite wrote: Good to know. Wanna lynch someone? [...] Certainly. Any suggestions? | ||
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On December 12 2017 08:24 Conversion wrote: also are we trying to pressure palmar into entering before 3 hours left of D1 or something? because I'm on board with this plan We are murdering him for the sheer spectacle. Who are you by the way, I have never seen you before. How long have you played, are you good at scum/town, what's up? | ||
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On December 12 2017 08:24 Forumite wrote: Not my first pick, but this works. ##Vote Palmar Who would your first pick be? | ||
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On December 12 2017 13:12 Kmatt wrote: I think it refers more to someone saying something like there being a Doc or Vet in the game when that was never mentioned in the OP, outing themselves as a blue. Of course you can WIFOM it into being a VT trying to draw Mafia's fire, but in the end it's a dumb conversation to have in the first place. In spite of that, is the "as many as possible" thing in the D1 post flavor or is it possible to lynch more than one person per cycle? Join the righteous Palmar wagon. | ||
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The Palmar wagon is still fun but maybe it's worth talking about who his team mates are? Arya321 seems to be doing a lot of not-scum-hunting for someone who said that scum-hunting was what we were supposed to do. Are you sitting on a big post or something? | ||
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Maybe Conversion is town for doing a lot of meta analysis that kind of led nowhere. | ||
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I'll not be here for like 20 hours, maybe a little more. Will be back before deadline unless barring some unforeseen betrayal. ##Unvote ##Vote Kmatt | ||
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On December 13 2017 23:50 VisceraEyes wrote: prplhz just so we're clear, the Chezinu rule only applies if Chezinu is town. I've seen no evidence of that this game. Chez just said that it applied no matter his alignment. HolyFlare missed this too. | ||
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On December 13 2017 23:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Ugh the double feel when Kmatt and Conversion are the only other currently viable wagons to Palmar. Maybe I'll make it a ballgame and vote on Oatsmaster with Forumite. I think I'll make it a ballgame and vote on Oatsmaster with Forumite. Because I think Oatsmaster is more likely than not mafia and I'm pretty nullz0rz on Palmar yet. ##Unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster Palmar said something about me talking myself into voting him earlier, thinking I'm scum for it. It's this new thing I'm doing where I kinda just explain shittily my shitty thought process. Again. Haters can eat giant bags of dicks. Also there's this kinda stink in the thread about me being "forced townie" or something? I don't know, it's still all dumb to me, it all just smacks of "looks town = mafia" to me, so I'm just going to continue to not really do anything about it but what I'm doing because....I still don't have any votes on me. NIGHT TL!!! It's not looks town equals mafia but you're posting more with your brain than your heart which is kind of non-ve-like. You agree with this yourself too in this very post you're saying that you're switching things up. | ||
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On December 14 2017 00:01 Koshi wrote: Yeah VE his list is pretty ok as well. Exciting who will be more correct. I think his list lacks the colour red for a VE POST. | ||
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On December 14 2017 00:10 VisceraEyes wrote: For context, I've never once not given the color red as mafia in colored posts. Like, I'm just talking shit, but I specifically know that as mafia I always want at least one person as a "scum read" because people like you go "Hey VE doesn't have any scumreads" so I really find it unlikely that this observation means anything really. Weren't you going to bed or something? And now you show up to answer some post about post colouring. | ||
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##Vote Oatsmaster Not changing that vote, that was impossible to write on a phone. | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:22 Arya321 wrote: Palmar can you please sheep this Oats vote although your case is decent I think Oats got a higher chance of being mafia than Forumite since I know Oats better than Forumite. I think you should substitute the sweet talking for brow beating. | ||
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I know but LS brow beating you would just be a lot more funny. | ||
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That's part of the fun! The nice guy brow beating the brow beater. | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:27 Forumite wrote: I won't be online for the lynch, might be able to post some more. Good feeling about this lynch. Eversince, DF, you need to vote. Good feeling because it's not you? | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote: I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me. Did you just pick two random names and decide that one and only one is scum? | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:58 VisceraEyes wrote: <3 I can't sleep boys, I think I'm going to play Overwatch. I'm pleased with the state of the game. I can't wait to lynch HF tomorrow and not Forumite. GL hf! | ||
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On December 14 2017 02:49 Grackaroni wrote: It's just from the main pushers of your lynch being Koshi/DF/HF and thinking that Koshi is town. Kind of agree, I think HolyFlare sort of piggy bagged on that read and tried to take credit for work where none was due. Kind of thinking Oatsmaster/Kmart/HolyFlare but the last scum could be pretty much anybody. When is deadline? I though it was in like six hours. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:50 Koshi wrote: Palmar longest post. Probably cuz teammates. He wrote a long ass case on Forumite, you can't have missed that. | ||
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The only thing you did was say "you guys can vote for oats if you want, I'm going for Palmer" after having pushed conversion all day | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:11 Conversion wrote: Is anyone here? we are all AFKing until day? Kind of. Trying to figure out what happened. | ||
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It's like, just deciding on lynching him already. Let's talk about it during the day and not give scum information to work on. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:28 darthfoley wrote: I feel like I've seen you make some good two liner posts about people, but i'm not really sure where you stand on the game as a whole. Enlighten me, especially after your lynch person flipped scum I think it's not as clear as you say in your big post. The conversion lynch was pushed hard but never gained traction. So I don't think it makes sense to say scum could have gone for him instead. Same about Forumite. I think this lynch just kind of happened and no one really knows why. I feel like the game is not just following Joshis list. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:32 darthfoley wrote: I still don't know what VE has done this game besides use caps lock too much He made the first big post on Oats. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:36 darthfoley wrote: I hardly consider this a big post. It's like 2 lines about Oats tbh Yea that's right, but it looks like it's a bit post about Oats. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:38 darthfoley wrote: I kinda feel like mafia bussed Oats and then it got out of control and they couldn't back off of it I can kind of agree with this. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:46 Conversion wrote: Who are the people that bussed Oats ? I think there was still a very legitimate shot in getting me lynched, no? Yea kinda maybe but you were pushed all day and nothing happened. I'm literally boarding a plane for Chile so I'm kinda cramped on time and will not be back for like twenty hours. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:46 Conversion wrote: Who are the people that bussed Oats ? I think there was still a very legitimate shot in getting me lynched, no? VE, Forumite? I think it started earlier I made a post about that. | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:03 prplhz wrote: Everybody is talking about Oats but nobody is doing anything.... What gives? | ||
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On December 14 2017 23:32 Conversion wrote: although I'm sure DF was joking, so two "real" cop claims Fairly sure they were all joking. | ||
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On December 15 2017 06:37 Palmar wrote: I think we have to lynch holyflare for refusing to give his results guys. lol | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:13 Palmar wrote: I have won as 3p but can't remember if you were in the game. I'm not 3p or mafia this game. I'm strictly town. Caller games where Brazil nukes the earth from orbit don't count. Anyway, I'm absolutely not feeling this Palmar lynch, will be back later (unlikely) or tomorrow (less unlikely). | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:27 Palmar wrote: The only problem I have with a tracker claim is why on earth is there a godfather on mafia then. Maybe Godfather can deliver kill without getting tracked or watched or maybe there is some sort of cop in the game too. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote: It is just so unbelievable you thought you were multishot vig... When you read "vigilante" you always assume 1 shot. I mean come on.... So then you are lying... The vig claim is fine but all your shit before that makes it more likely that you are just doing random things to survive. If you were really vig the random things before would have a purpose. And it would not be multishot. Because that is bullshit. I admit this entire story is well crafted. I was kinda thinking the same, that multishot vigi never happens so it's weird that he thought it did. But otherwise, how did Grackaroni die? You don't lynch an un-cc'd vig who has shot someone. Also, Palmar is having way too much fun for someone who just lost two buddies before d2. If the is a CC, we lynch Palmar. If not, lets look for something else. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually I don't care, Palmar is the SK and I'm lynching him. See you tomorrow. How exactly does SK work in this game? If he is multishot, he's way too dangerous for town. If he's single shot, he doesn't shoot Grackaroni on n1. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:37 VisceraEyes wrote: There's a doctor in this game and Palmar is the SK. He shoots Grack because Grack is the only person with Palmar's name in his mouth. Don't worry about what Palmar says about WHY he wouldn't shoot Grack think about the circumstances surrounding yesterday. Grack put a wagon on Palmar and NEVER LEFT it. Everyone else was looking everywhere else. The cop claim was to cover exactly what happened, a watcher/tracker. He claimed a visiting role to cover himself in case he was observed. And when he decided to shoot, he decided to ditch the cop claim by acting like a fucking retard. His play doesn't make any sense from the perspective of a town-aligned vigilante. If he was town, he would have shot Forumite because no one believed him about Forumite and Palmar favors his D1 reads VERY highly. PLEASE just lynch Palmar. VisceraEyes Like he already pointed out, there is no way Palmar is more afraid of a Grackaroni-led wagon with a solitary vote than a rampaging Koshi who just so happened to vote some some other guy out of sheer stubbornness. The cop claim was to have fun and possibly draw fire. No one who has played with him took it seriously, just look at the three counter claims. Palmar isn't stubborn and shooting Grackaroni fits with the Ace mentality like he said and that's how you play vigilante, you shoot into trash like Grackaroni. | ||
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Yes. Hardclaim. No going back. Lynch me instantly if I do. I'm also not SK. I'm also the SK who has to kill the bank but someone bussed Chezinu and Grackaroni last night. | ||
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On December 16 2017 00:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Like whatever, you disagree. Fine, but don't make fucking fun of me because you disagree with me. Me? If I came across as insulting I hope you will accept my apology. It really wasn't my intention ![]() | ||
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The problem with this claim is that it was so fake that no one believed in it except some new players so it was really just for the purpose of kind of doing whatever, having fun, and possibly drawing a night kill from some panicking scum. This is just not very scum. Now he's claiming vig which fits alright. Any setup speculation that conclusively proves that we have an SK is just wildly speculative and probably wrong. I gotta say I don't particularly get this thing with the single/multi-shot. What exactly was that about? | ||
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On December 16 2017 06:36 Forumite wrote: Is there any truth to your pleas? They haven´t helped town any, just muddled up D2 and made sure that you are the lynch. It doesn´t even make sense from a town perspective, you claimed cop during the night, putting a huge target on yourself. That wouldn´t have been a problem if you were a 1-shot vig with the Roleblocker dead, except at the time you say you thought you had unlimited shots. If you thought you could just keep shooting then why paint a huge target on yourself by claiming DT? Also, you are usually so confident with your ability to find scum, so you would throw away that and your blue ability by claiming. Did you expect the WIFOM and confusion of claiming to confuse scum enough to shoot someone else? It makes more sense that you are scum and claimed blue because you wanted town-cred and were not afraid of getting shot during the night. Then after Grack flipped you became desperate or lost interest in the game and just went crazy with claiming several different roles. Really How does it make more sense that Palmar is mafia? Then where on earth did the Grackaroni shot come from? | ||
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On December 16 2017 07:38 Koshi wrote: Palmar is 9 times out of 10 mafia. The SK is unknown. Okay, so he's mafia claiming the SK kill to pose as a vig? | ||
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On December 16 2017 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Killing palmar is also a free cop check on me so gg How is that? | ||
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On December 16 2017 07:47 Forumite wrote: Grack could have been killed by a lurking townie that haven´t gone online yet, or a townie with multiple shots who doesn´t feel like claiming. Why claim to save scummy Palmar when town is on its way to lynch him allready? That just draws attention to a blue. Not likely but possible. Or maybe Palmar shot his scumbuddy after Grack got tired of the game. Scum Palmar makes more sense with the play during D1, Palmar chainsaw defending Oats without even reading Oats filter, and later claiming he was on the Oats lynch. It´s a huge mess, Palmar really isn´t helping and I´m not going to leave him be. If that´s not enough, then lynch him for lying, Palmar has lied to town repeatedly with his weird claims, and there is no clear reason why a townie would do this. If he really is a Vigi, then claim that during the night, or keep quiet and keep the blue role safe. Or what, Palmar is a player who likes to mess up for his own team, so we should ignore everything he does and hope he´s green? Or Palmar got a bad start of the game and lost interest, deciding that shooting his scumbuddy might be fun. His play today looks like he´s throwing the game. This post feels horrible. | ||
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On December 16 2017 08:22 Arya321 wrote: True but I don't think he would even fuck around at that point expcally because I remember in Metal Mini he actually did try to find mafia a little bit or at least sheeped a good enough case after 2 mafia were killed by Day 2 onto the SK in that game although that was in 2013 into 2014 if I remember correctly.. "You're ostensibly right but I remember a game four years ago where he did something vaguely different" | ||
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On December 16 2017 08:37 Forumite wrote: So if a player is impossible to read we leave him be? Even when he´s been caught defending scum, messing up discussion and derailing the whole D2? I don´t see Vigi-Palmar, I see a desperate scum that is trying anything that might work. I can´t explain the Grack shot, but that doesn´t make Palmar a confirmed Vigi. Townies defend scum, it happens all the time. If D2 is messed up, which I don't know that it is, town is responsible for that as well. Lynching players for doing weird shit has literally never worked and if you wanna lynch someone for being unreadable, how about you start with Chezinu? It kind of does make him confirmed vig. This lynching Palmar to hypothetically save a 1-shot vig makes no sense, vigs are generally shit and shoot townies and are mostly useful because they can confirm themselves through their actions, so lets have the vig claim and then we lynch Palmar and win 100%. Unless there's an SK and Palmar is scum and hiding behind the SK kill, which is the most plausible, I'll grant Koshi that, but not very plausible at all. Palmar's case yesterday and his effort today after outing himself at the very least to a third party who wants him dead doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective. | ||
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On December 16 2017 08:40 Conversion wrote: I’m not feeling well I don’t understand defense of Palmar. even if town he shit up by fake claiming like 5 things for some dumb reason. reminds me of when vivax fake claimed cop to try and get HF lynched and flipped town if he is town. But we don't lynch townies because we are angry with how they play. That's rule 1 of mafia. | ||
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scum is voting for palmar (or not voting) i choose forumite becuase he seems like he's concluded that palmar is scum and is now looking for reasons. "That fits much better" is something he said tojustify himself, liek he knew his reasonable was shaky but he thought he could just change it and keep the conclusion. then later he said "this is a really towny post but i'm not gonna change my vote" so he's so inseucre about voting palmar he has no idea why he's doing it and changes reasonable for barely any reason otheer than "this seems better". then he sees a towny post and says "I like this post, looks actually pro Town" but does that change his opinion or move it? no. because he's already decided. also palmar wrote a case on d1 go read it and realize he's not writing a case like this as scum not to push it at all when he team mate is getting lynched for no clear reason. yes, forumite threw a random vote a oats at some point when the two biggest wagon were himself and conversion. whoop-dee-doo, i barely remembered he did this because it was so unnotablle. ##Vote FOrumite see you tomorrow all youlovelly people | ||
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On December 18 2017 21:42 Arya321 wrote: I doubt a 2nd town vig since normally there is just 1 due to how strong vigs can be. I think it more likely a strongarm shot. Strong arm doesn't kill two people? | ||
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On December 19 2017 03:52 Forumite wrote: I'll join this one. Chez has been hard to read since the start, and koshi has looked town since very early. I like how scum have killed of several of my scumreads, that's why I don't give reads during the night. ##Vote Chezinu but isn't it super useful for town than scum shoots somebody instead of you pushing their mislynch? | ||
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On December 19 2017 09:48 Koshi wrote: There is no readon for him to ne tpwn. And he keeps calling me mafia without providing 1 reason. Just get him out of this game. you are so ridiculously tunnely i don't even know | ||
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On December 19 2017 12:30 Kmatt wrote: Do you think that's inherently scummy? I know I'm short on any hard scumreads, so axing an ambiguous player is likely my best shot. the guy who shot scum, you know the guy you lynched after he was confirmed as town, palmar, you remember? he said that Forumite was scum. maybe he was right? maybe this is already super apparent and has been clarified by multiple people in the thread? i'm sort of done trying to be reasonable for now so i'm just gonna point at palmar's case and say that it was alright and there is also a bunch of other stuff in the thread that says the same. if you people want to lynch someone else because you're out of ideas, i don't know what i can do. it's like you're trying to get rid of the people you can't read instead of the people you can and who are openly scummy because it just seems easier to lynch chez for being chez than to lynch scum for being scum, the argument is more straight forward. like palmar "oh he fake claimed lets lynch him" even though he does this all the time and is confirmed town, it's the same this time "oh i don't really get his posts lets lynch him" even though he does this all the time. I want to murder Forumite. | ||
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VE is pretty good and was the driving force in the oats lynch on d1. are people gonna be here for deadline tomorrow? | ||
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On December 21 2017 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: kmatt I think that's about as good as we're going to get today. Koshi talking like he even CAN kill me is ridiculous, that he ever would is absolutely preposterous. what happened since yesterday? | ||
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didn't anybody investigate this koshi claim? and by anybody i mean LS, did you think about it? | ||
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Writing town cases on yourself never really works for me, my entire filter is a town case on myself. It makes more sense to point directly at facts or quote other people and let you deduce the consequences, though I think this makes much sense either. I know you like to think you secured the Oatsmaster lynch because you voted for someone else and made a list of four people where one of them was scum. No. I asked about Oatsmaster early on, pointed out that while everybody had a problem with him, nobody was doing anything, then I voted him as a pretty fast third vote. Do I think you'll realize that that was what happened? Not even if I could bother to quote the posts. I pointed out the horrendous Palmar lynch on d2. Not late, not too late (well, it was always too late with you and a town that doesn't know Palmar), but very early on. I fought it pretty hard, I fought it pretty well. Palmar also pointed this out. You will never listen to me, but maybe to Palmar? I doubt this too, or at least you'll never listen in time. Though you did realize that the Palmar lynch was bad a couple hours before deadline and this time you have all the power. After this I didn't really do anything at all. I wanted to lynch Forumite but nobody else wanted to. Then he wasn't scum and whatever, lets lynch VisceraEyes? Or something? I don't know what became of the game but town has been doing fairly random shit ever since then. This is on you Koshi. You are confirmed town in a three man LYLO. I sort of hope you enjoy it, if nothing else, though it doesn't seem like it for some reason. | ||
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