[M][N] A Simple Game of Mafia

On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting.

On December 12 2017 11:41 Arya321 wrote:
Was flood controlled earlier dunno why but was very sad to be flood controlled when I was trying to make my post but anyways I should clarify that we shouldn't do setup talk within the first few hours of the game mainly because it might accidentally get someone to claim blue and plus it can be seen as blue hunting per say too hence why I don't think it's a good thing to do super early Day 1. Anyways surprised Palmar didn't enter the game yet yet people are trying to lynch him. Why lynch an afk person when they wont reveal much information at all?

On December 12 2017 13:12 Kmatt wrote:


I think it refers more to someone saying something like there being a Doc or Vet in the game when that was never mentioned in the OP, outing themselves as a blue. Of course you can WIFOM it into being a VT trying to draw Mafia's fire, but in the end it's a dumb conversation to have in the first place.

In spite of that, is the "as many as possible" thing in the D1 post flavor or is it possible to lynch more than one person per cycle?

On December 12 2017 13:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kmatt town. Ez.

On December 12 2017 22:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man this wagon is big. I feel like it's this bitcoin bubble that's about to burst, Palmar isn't gonna get lynched at all is he?!

On December 12 2017 19:38 Forumite wrote:

I know. I was just about to suggest HF when prplhz picked you and didn't want to divide attention. HF for later, you first.


Do you have any thoughts on the setup and current blue/black-tells?

On December 13 2017 01:48 prplhz wrote:
I kind of like the Kmatt thing, he went for Chezinu which is scummy and then when he was called out on it he made some kind of uncomfortable anime joke posts.

I'll not be here for like 20 hours, maybe a little more. Will be back before deadline unless barring some unforeseen betrayal.

##Unvote
##Vote Kmatt

On December 13 2017 04:31 Koshi wrote:




prplhz is town.

Reason:
- Making waves
- Solving game by thinking further than a mafia would.

On December 13 2017 05:02 Koshi wrote:

Palmar can be town as well because I respect him and prefer to work with him.

Explain Conversion to me please. He has townish comments but I don't know yet.

On December 13 2017 06:28 Koshi wrote:

Try to not make posts like this. They are extremely infuriating because they completely misrepresent what I am saying.

It is hopefully obvious from my posts that I was not scumreading Palmar after I catched up. And that I thought he was playing slow but was trying to solve the game at his pace. But that I was hesitant to call him town because his willingness to further and solve the game was lacking in his latest posts. After rereading his filter and re-evaluating I think there is a chance Palmar is mafia. But again, I need to see more posts from him.

On December 13 2017 06:39 Grackaroni wrote:
This is going to sound pretty stupid but I could see teammates wanting to jump on scum Palmar as a distancing maneuver at the start of the day when there's little chance that votes would stay on him for the rest of the day.

On December 13 2017 09:18 Koshi wrote:

Oats buddy. We have established my brilliance over the past 3-5 years we have been playing together.

On December 13 2017 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
So I really don't understand Conversion at all right now. No idea where his head is at if he's town.

Starts off with this



So he reads my post as "a poor attempt to joke around and look townie." Only people concerned about "looking townie" are scum. So we can assume he has some sort of scum read on me, albeit early on in the game.

Koshi and I call him out for it, and he responds...



Now he sort of pivots to say that my post was "bad" which is still vague, but he continues to push the idea that I was "trying to look overly townie" which still implies some level of scum read while simultaneously claiming he "never remotely tried to push or case me."



Well, what is the town motivation from Conversion's POV? He's only been concerned with the mafia POV seemingly. This again feels like hedging.



So now he's implying he doesn't believe my gameplay has been genuine. In fact, he outright says I have "almost no original thoughts" and that i'm "not making waves." These are classic traits of being mafia.



So again he's pushing Koshi to provide evidence to substantiate his town read on me. Through all of this he's tried to claim that he hasn't made up his mind on my alignment, while simultaneously only treating me as if he were scum reading me. It should also be noted that he hasn't tried interacting with me at all besides that one defensive question.

Instead of trying to determine my alignment by pressuring me or asking me stuff himself, he's doing some round about thing of pressuring Koshi to prove that i'm town???? Why wouldn't he just pressure me? Like why does Koshi's opinion matter at all?

On December 13 2017 09:48 Arya321 wrote:
Just got home from my final I saw that HF is stealing some credit about pushing Conversion even though Koshi and DF were doing it first. DF and Koshi are town I think from the interactions they had while I was gone. Also HF think's I am lightningstrike for whatever reason even though I am not him or her nor do I know him or her >.>
@Koshi what you current reads on Palmar and HF
@HF What you think of KMatt and his attempted push on Chezinu?

On December 13 2017 11:11 Kmatt wrote:
Oh, looks like I missed Conversion's question earlier



I've been following this thread on and off but was more curious to see where Koshi (and hopefully Forumite if he ever comes back) were gonna take it. Also there wasn't much content at the time aside from the half-serious Palmar wagon, so I prefer to seek out a case on my own. I guess that counts as playstyle.

On December 13 2017 11:25 Kmatt wrote:


My intense need to not sheep makes me not want to blindly convert to the Conversion wagon, but other than voting AFKs or VS, I'm a bit stuck. Forumite is the missing link from where I'm sitting. If he speaks up sometime before we tally votes it would likely clear up a lot of my "ambiguously town" reads. A lot of people here are lumping him in with other reads, while other AFKs like HolyFlare, Eversince, and prphlz slip on by.

On December 13 2017 16:10 Holyflare wrote:
LightningStrike has made two accusatory posts this game. One that ve is weird/scummy for his oats read and one that I'm "stealing" a wagon on conversion and he doesn't lump me with koshi/df. When questioned on his scum reads none of those two things show up. That's scummy.

On December 13 2017 16:23 Eversince wrote:
Eya friends! Failed to realize this game started yesterday r.r!
I will catch up tonight. I'm only going to be up for a short time tonight though. Any specific people I should look into, links appreciated!

On December 14 2017 01:22 Arya321 wrote:
Palmar can you please sheep this Oats vote although your case is decent I think Oats got a higher chance of being mafia than Forumite since I know Oats better than Forumite.

On December 13 2017 23:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ugh the double feel when Kmatt and Conversion are the only other currently viable wagons to Palmar.

Maybe I'll make it a ballgame and vote on Oatsmaster with Forumite. I think I'll make it a ballgame and vote on Oatsmaster with Forumite. Because I think Oatsmaster is more likely than not mafia and I'm pretty nullz0rz on Palmar yet.

##Unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster

Palmar said something about me talking myself into voting him earlier, thinking I'm scum for it. It's this new thing I'm doing where I kinda just explain shittily my shitty thought process. Again. Haters can eat giant bags of dicks.

Also there's this kinda stink in the thread about me being "forced townie" or something? I don't know, it's still all dumb to me, it all just smacks of "looks town = mafia" to me, so I'm just going to continue to not really do anything about it but what I'm doing because....I still don't have any votes on me.

NIGHT TL!!!

On December 13 2017 19:58 Eversince wrote:
Yeah so seems like Oats reads like he thinks the Conversion read is bolonga,
Agrees that's Conversion isn't trying to figure out alignment.
Then sides with Conversion to still this you and VE are forcing your stances to appear townie?
(What I got from quick filters)
This mean HF/DF etc are also forcing or just riding along?
@Oats

On December 13 2017 19:19 Eversince wrote:
Okm before you go on

I have basically no grasp on meta for anyone from here. I don't pay attention to it yet. I don't have time to filter several hundred pages of filters (Bless this site) to figure it out. So I just try to play as 'What is the town motivation for this?' vs 'What is the mafia motivation for this?' and try to despute if it makes more sense way more from one then the other...

On December 14 2017 01:32 Holyflare wrote:


He defended conversion and didn't respond why so probably. Forumite also guilty of the same.

On December 14 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:


Where on earth did I say he's not mafia?

On December 13 2017 06:39 Grackaroni wrote:
This is going to sound pretty stupid but I could see teammates wanting to jump on scum Palmar as a distancing maneuver at the start of the day when there's little chance that votes would stay on him for the rest of the day.

On December 14 2017 05:26 Conversion wrote:
too bad the only viable wagon is if I die, but I'm town so fuck no