On December 14 2017 02:04 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I did a quick reread of Conversion's scum play in the last newbie. I think the difference between his play in that game and in this game is really night and day. Do a quick read for yourself.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/527379-newbie-student-mafia-xxvii?user=Conversion

In that game his reads are a lot more indecisive. He gives a list of wishy washy reads and whenever he gives a read on somebody that isn't a town read he adds a qualifier for why his read may be wrong.

In this game he calls out things that he doesn't like about DF, Forumite's and Arya's play right off the bat without reservation.

On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:

On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting.

this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting

also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in

On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:

On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:

On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:

On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:

On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game

I did. It was not as glorious as advertised

ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won?

i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think.

from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation

why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting?

On December 12 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:
the way I see Oats is he makes a lot of weird aggressive posts early. it's what he does after that matters more (when I was mafia w/ him he opened the same way, but then starting being more passive)

what's your opinion on Forumite? I don't like the soft questioning he(she?) is doing without giving away reads unless asked

I think the chances of Conversion being scum are really quite low.

Hmm. Does that mean I am bad?

It probably makes one of HF/DF mafia more likely.

This was an extremely bad post. But dnu if he is mafia. It is a good name to bring up though. I like that

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:16 GMT

#968

On December 14 2017 02:49 Grackaroni wrote:

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On December 14 2017 02:42 Conversion wrote:

On December 14 2017 02:29 Grackaroni wrote:

On December 14 2017 02:19 Koshi wrote:

On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:

On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting.

this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting

also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in

On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:

On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:

On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:

On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:

On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game

I did. It was not as glorious as advertised

ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won?

i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think.

I think the chances of Conversion being scum are really quite low.

Hmm. Does that mean I am bad?

It probably makes one of HF/DF mafia more likely.

this is more interesting than my between DF/Koshi read, but idk if mafia!HF would expose himself so much by sheeping onto a town lynch like that. even in my head between DF/Koshi DF is way more likely to flip mafia if I go under the assumption that one person in the "Conv is mafia" case is mafia

can you explain your DF/HF split?

It's just from the main pushers of your lynch being Koshi/DF/HF and thinking that Koshi is town.

So bad. So bad.

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:20 GMT

#969

You know what. I made a mistake. I agree.

Palmar
Conversion
Chezinu
Grack

Those 4.

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:20 GMT

#970

Palmar explain to me why forumite is still mafia while creating the wagon on Oats. What rubs you the wrong way? I need to understand.

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:46 GMT

#980

On December 15 2017 00:36 Conversion wrote:
the only way Koshi is going to townread me is if I die and flip green. doubt he'll believe a cop check with two serious claims

Not true. I can change my view quickly.
Palmar pointing out Grack was big.

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:46 GMT

#981

On December 15 2017 00:40 Conversion wrote:
last post wasn't made to sound dramatic, just that koshi has very strong conviction in his list so the moment one of his 4 flips town that's not me, I'll instantly be in red territory again

My list got bigger

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:51 GMT

#983

On December 15 2017 00:39 Arya321 wrote:

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No worries I think I could talk sense to him.

Never be adraid to fail. Failure is only a stepping stone to improvement.

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:52 GMT

#985

On December 15 2017 00:47 Conversion wrote:
if I'm being annoying your list stayed the same size. you just replaced oats with someone else

I think Grack

Thats not how you math.

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:53 GMT

#986

I claim unaware miller.

Koshi

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December 14 2017 15:54 GMT

#987

Damn. Only 9 pages of filter.
What are you people gonna do when I die?

Koshi

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December 14 2017 21:42 GMT

#1027

On December 15 2017 05:53 Conversion wrote:
I'm having the biggest shit eating grin right now HF. I cannot wait to rub it in your face on how wrong you are on thinking I am scu. at least Koshi doesn't want to lynch me yet even though he thinks I'm scum/disappointing town/whatever Koshi thinks

I added Grack beforw he died. So out of my list 2 mafia flipped. 0 townies.

But my list is now 3 names with 1 mafia.

Koshi

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December 14 2017 21:42 GMT

#1028

Anyway I play tomorrow. Gj vig.

Koshi

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December 15 2017 05:48 GMT

#1100

On December 15 2017 12:29 Arya321 wrote:
Man it's so quiet in here we can't just sit here thumbling our thumbs on this we still got work to do -.-
@Everyone but HF and Palmar: Do you guys believe Palmar's claim or HF's thing saying the hosts told him that it's a normal setup despite being a closed setup?

Both are liars but Palmar is mafia.

Koshi

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December 15 2017 05:49 GMT

#1101

On December 07 2017 02:15 Damdred wrote:
Setup:

Closed setup, any number of roles can be present as long as they fall within criteria.

Hint: The criteria will be normal type roles that would generally be in normal games.

Can you guys read the hint

Koshi

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December 15 2017 05:51 GMT

#1102

You guys play extremely townie. It's truly insane. This is like the easiest PoE game I had.

Koshi

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December 15 2017 05:54 GMT

#1103

##vote Palmar

The whisperer is obviously fake. The cop probably as well.

Game is probably vig due to 14 players and not 13.
Protection role or detective role (or both with jailer)

Vs

3 mafia

Koshi

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December 15 2017 05:56 GMT

#1104

I dont think it will be 2 games in a row with an sk. Did VE claim the shot or is it Eversince? Anyway. Shouldnt matter. It's from town.

Or mafia vig shot mafia. Would be impressive.