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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 26 2017 03:56 GMT
#1141
Stan/Palmar/TW/+1?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
November 26 2017 04:21 GMT
#1142
hi, i had a nice thanksgiving and i hope you did too
fortunately but not so fortunately there is not too much to catch up on. all i've seen since eod2 is the nk and the last 20 posts. and what i'm working with is a general wariness of chez/palmar/koshi/stan, and general towniness for other people. especially df, even from this page alone he has that townie concern (tm).
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
November 26 2017 04:24 GMT
#1143
On November 26 2017 11:59 darthfoley wrote:
I'm going to be traveling for most of tomorrow before deadline. I might be able to check in here and there.

I propose we policy lynch Stan for his ninja vote + no posting in the actual thread (for the second day in a row). I'm only sort of joking. He actually has no reads which is why he isn't playing. Filter is butt cheeks. He bandwagoned day 1... and day 2... and day 3...

I'm a broken record at this point. Town has sucked thus far following Palmar's lead, so he's probably mafia. Koshi also probably mafia because of how lame he's playing. Honorable mention to TW.

But we should lynch Stanislav Petrov. So let's do that. It would be pretty silly to lynch me

#Vote: Stanislav Petrov

i can get on board. just kidding i was already on board
also holy fuck there was practically nothing to read since i left
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
November 26 2017 04:27 GMT
#1144
On November 26 2017 12:56 darthfoley wrote:
Stan/Palmar/TW/+1?

i don't think there's a fourth. 11v4 seems pretty scum favored to me, especially if scum can double shoot some nights. (i am not vig, in case you were wondering.)
good times for all
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 26 2017 04:32 GMT
#1145
11v4 seems too scum favored, 12v3 seems too town favored
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
November 26 2017 08:16 GMT
#1146
On November 26 2017 13:32 darthfoley wrote:
11v4 seems too scum favored, 12v3 seems too town favored

my guess is 12v3 with extra kills to compensate. hence the extra kills.
good times for all
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 26 2017 10:36 GMT
#1147
Well there is a chance both Damdred and df are not mafia. That was a good and clean conversation.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 26 2017 11:03 GMT
#1148
Well. Maybe mafia are the lowposters like chez and stan.
If Palmar is mafia he read my posts very well and understands.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 26 2017 11:39 GMT
#1149
Well my vote is for sale. For your protection.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 26 2017 14:54 GMT
#1150
Lol this game is rather pathetic.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 26 2017 14:56 GMT
#1151
On November 26 2017 12:54 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 05:03 Palmar wrote:
On November 21 2017 05:00 Tumblewood wrote:
On November 21 2017 04:34 Palmar wrote:
I like this conversion guy. Think I’ll sheep him

nah, i don't believe palmar comes back to the thread an hour before deadline and conversion is the guy he sheeps

This is a garbage comment btw.


Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 05:05 Palmar wrote:
TW is like 70% mafia for that comment alone

Hf is maybe 60% but has a larger wagon and well... lynching hf is always fun. I get to call him trash in the thread for the rest of the game even if he flips town and he can't say shit back

Of the two leading wagons I don't think I want to kill either of them, but I've been doing this for like 15 minutes so.


This interaction struck me as odd at the time and even weirder in hindsight. Palmar has continued to scum read TW but he hasn't voted for him or pushed him as a lynch, and his reasoning for voting Hapa is really bland and generic. Palmar's probably mafia.

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 05:36 Palmar wrote:
On November 21 2017 05:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 21 2017 05:35 Palmar wrote:
On November 21 2017 05:33 Conversion wrote:
well I wanted DF alive and stan lynched, so I got one of those things

sorry HF

No need hf played like shit

Are we lynching me tomorrow?

100%

or TW


Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 05:38 Palmar wrote:
btw, I think the following people are town:

ruxxar, conversion, damdred, z-boson, stan

The following are meh

oats

the following are scummy

tw

everyone else I have no opinion on yet. I'll read some more maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow. Had to kinda work hard here to create this mess. Games don't get fucked up by themselves, someone's gotta do the dirty work.


Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 17:22 Palmar wrote:
On November 21 2017 09:40 Conversion wrote:
tbh that hf lynch was a total crapshoot and just makes wveryone (including me) who lynched scummy. I should have used my head and realized that df dying or stan dying was the best outcome since it gives us info

It only really makes TW scummy for his weird strategy bullshit and hesitancy around the vote.

People keep forgetting that it's townies who do retarded shit and run around like headless chicken. Who do you think is more likely to jump on my terrible wagon that mafia knows is town?

Suddenly an experienced player brim filled with confidence starts yelling at everyone in the thread to lynch some dude. Who is more likely to blindly follow, mafia (who knows I'm wrong) or town (who's just looking for a lynch.... any lynch).

I'm inclined to believe most of the people who followed me are town.

I'm kinda upgrading Oats to town too, but I'm definitely missing at least one mafia in my town reads (as I always do). But that's mostly fine because it's higher % chance of success by hunting mafia in my scumreads.


Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 18:07 Palmar wrote:
On November 21 2017 18:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
They were all confused. I just shook my head.

Can you explain your massive scumreads on Koshi and TW?


He asks VE who he's been agreeing with and town reading to explain his scum read on someone (TW) that he's been scum reading for days. This is basically exactly what people were accusing me of D1. Except this is D2. Why does Palmar need an explanation from his town read on why his town read is scum reading the same person as him?

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 26 2017 16:13 GMT
#1152
Well. Looking at chez and stan filters I prefer lynching Chez. He is apologistic in some posts and pronises activity which he doesnt follow up with.

Isnt like normal Chez.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 26 2017 16:14 GMT
#1153
##unvote
##vote Chez
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 26 2017 16:16 GMT
#1154
I am quite certain about this. Ask me questions if you are unsure but I am on phine and will ne at dinner and will go to theatre after.

Chez is mafia. It is quite obvious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Stanislav Petrov
Profile Joined October 2012
Russian Federation21 Posts
November 26 2017 17:57 GMT
#1155
It's impossible to distinguish apathy from scumplay. I myself have had almost no interest in this game after hapa flipped cop. I'm not judging anybody else who isn't chipping in after that. How do you motivate yourself to put in time and effort when the odds are enormously stacked against you.

darthfoley is almost guaranteed scum. He's active a but doesn't accomplish. The conclusions he's drawn throughout this game I don't feel are likely to drawn by a townie. Sure he could be tunneling convinced he's right and utterly incapable of taking a step back and properly analyzing the information he has. But it's far more likely he's mafia purposely tunneling pretending to be bad. Normal mafia tactic is to spread out during all-townie lynch targets and so far the people voting for him are SIGNIFICANTLY less scummy then the Stan/HF voters and most of them decent players. Nobody but scum advocates lynching a bread-crumbed townie as a top scumread.

One of his partners is Palmar.
Palmar was odd about the entire hapa lynch. The case on Hapa was solid and Palmar was behind that but still cracked comments like viscera get's HIS lynch which felt off. His other contribution to the game was sweeping in day 1, taking control of the lynch. I haven't played with Palmar for a few years but back then his style was finding townie behavior and then mafia by process of elimination. His day 1 reads aren't according to himself better then others and he's said so himself. So he knows his day 1 reads aren't great and yet decided that it's a good idea to swoop down without reading the thread at all and decide a new lynch candidate when half the vets in the game are behind lynching another person. And to that he just pays no mind? If I were town and I came into the thread just before the lynch and hadn't had opportunity to read the thread I would sheep the case most veterans were on. He doesn't do this and is essentially saying I know better then you without even reading. It doesn't fit with his style. As town he would have no reason to act so confident. Not to mention that he knows full well how bad last minute switches are in general and shouldn't be leading one without good reason which he did not have. It's far more likely he tried to save darthfoley, and even in some other bizarre universe where darthfoley is town so all lynchcandidates were town, then it's still a complete scummove because it makes the lynch generate less information and the town never gets to deal with the scummy looking townie, leaving him to continue diverting attention from real mafia.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 26 2017 18:26 GMT
#1156
On November 27 2017 02:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
It's impossible to distinguish apathy from scumplay. I myself have had almost no interest in this game after hapa flipped cop. I'm not judging anybody else who isn't chipping in after that. How do you motivate yourself to put in time and effort when the odds are enormously stacked against you.

darthfoley is almost guaranteed scum. He's active a but doesn't accomplish. The conclusions he's drawn throughout this game I don't feel are likely to drawn by a townie. Sure he could be tunneling convinced he's right and utterly incapable of taking a step back and properly analyzing the information he has. But it's far more likely he's mafia purposely tunneling pretending to be bad. Normal mafia tactic is to spread out during all-townie lynch targets and so far the people voting for him are SIGNIFICANTLY less scummy then the Stan/HF voters and most of them decent players. Nobody but scum advocates lynching a bread-crumbed townie as a top scumread.

One of his partners is Palmar.
Palmar was odd about the entire hapa lynch. The case on Hapa was solid and Palmar was behind that but still cracked comments like viscera get's HIS lynch which felt off. His other contribution to the game was sweeping in day 1, taking control of the lynch. I haven't played with Palmar for a few years but back then his style was finding townie behavior and then mafia by process of elimination. His day 1 reads aren't according to himself better then others and he's said so himself. So he knows his day 1 reads aren't great and yet decided that it's a good idea to swoop down without reading the thread at all and decide a new lynch candidate when half the vets in the game are behind lynching another person. And to that he just pays no mind? If I were town and I came into the thread just before the lynch and hadn't had opportunity to read the thread I would sheep the case most veterans were on. He doesn't do this and is essentially saying I know better then you without even reading. It doesn't fit with his style. As town he would have no reason to act so confident. Not to mention that he knows full well how bad last minute switches are in general and shouldn't be leading one without good reason which he did not have. It's far more likely he tried to save darthfoley, and even in some other bizarre universe where darthfoley is town so all lynchcandidates were town, then it's still a complete scummove because it makes the lynch generate less information and the town never gets to deal with the scummy looking townie, leaving him to continue diverting attention from real mafia.


How do you expect me to step back and reevaluate or whatever when no one gives me new information to evaluate? This is your first post worthy of reading in like 3 days IRL. Forgive me for continuing to think you're scum if you give me no reason to question my read. Also idk about the whole motivation thing. Town is still in a winnable situation, but with the lack of anyone giving a shit today, maybe I was overly optimistic.

Pretty sure VE was the breadcrumbed townie. Although it makes more sense for cop to check you, so maybe I am an idiot

It is interesting that we agree on palmar though. You're more townie than I thought.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 26 2017 18:27 GMT
#1157
Join me on the glorious Palmar lynch wagon

#Unvote
##Vote: Palmar
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 26 2017 18:38 GMT
#1158
It's annoying that you're refusing to change your read on me even though I've done a lot more than you're giving me credit for. I literally just cased Palmar for his scummy play d1 and D2, which you then reiterated.

Also Chez. Chez, chez. Bad boy?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
November 26 2017 19:28 GMT
#1159
On November 27 2017 03:38 darthfoley wrote:
It's annoying that you're refusing to change your read on me even though I've done a lot more than you're giving me credit for. I literally just cased Palmar for his scummy play d1 and D2, which you then reiterated.

Also Chez. Chez, chez. Bad boy?


I usually don't vote palmar.. ok, let's say you aren't mafia. What do you think about koshi?

Also (anyone can answer), what is the best guess of how many mafia there are? Cause right now if there are 3 mafia (as someone mentioned before), lynch is doomed right now.

We got about an hour. Now, is the time to do something.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 26 2017 20:01 GMT
#1160
Day 3 Vote Count
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Darthfoley: (2) Stanislav Petrov, Chezinu, Koshi
Stanislav Petrov: (1) Darthfoley, Tumblewood
Chezinu: (1) Koshi
Palmar: (1) Darthfoley

Not Voting: ruxXar, Conversion, Palmar, KelsierSC, Damdred


Currently Darthfoley Is set to be lynched.

Remember, voting is mandatory!

The day ends in (Thursday, Nov 23 8:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))

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