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On November 09 2017 15:42 happykrogan wrote:
Funny to wake up and See that I only voted town this game :/
If Mafia shots the jailkeeped person there is also no night kill, isn't it?
So he have to announce it last minute before flip and it is still not 100% sure because scum can probably guess who is going to be blocked.
I don't think mafia makes this kind of post, but who knows
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On November 10 2017 02:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also read Ruxx as town the whole game, while I think Rux read Zen as town, and Damerion as mafia.
if you're going by who pushed ruxx, it'd be zen over Damerionthough
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On November 09 2017 07:22 The_Zen_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2017 07:15 ritoky wrote:
why would you just lynch your godfather out of the blue....i am so confused. I'm pretty sure D1 lynch was a bus. TT being godfather might make it seem less likely as a bus. Also this makes me a lot more certain that Damerion is the last mafia. But wtf, why did only 4 of us vote? Feel like I'm wasting my time here.
I find this post very amusing since you're not actually putting a lot of time into this game
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On November 09 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
Looks like I'm about to get lynched.
That's ok, the game should solved at this point.
Lynch in this order if you want to win.
Zen
Ritoky.
You always lynch zen next. Always.
Don't hesitate, just do it.
On November 09 2017 04:40 ruXxar wrote:Ok so I've read through tick tocks filter again and reached some conclusions. Conclusion #1 is that I am confident that shockey is town.Tick tock was pushing Shockey really hard most of the day, and cross at points in how they interacted. Conclusion #2 is that I feel like damerion is likely town.TT had a couple posts at EOD when we were without a votecount and he was struggling to get shenanigans going. It felt like he was genuinly trying to find a target to latch onto or disperse votes from himself. + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2017 05:58 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 03:44 Damerion wrote:
Hello,
I just woke up from my shift. As such I obviously have a lot of catching uo to do.
I have been trying to keep up with the thread right now and I am in the neighborhood of scum being in these five people.
Shockey/RuxXar/Ticktock/Zen
The fifth person I do not want to say quite yet as I do not want the gane to develop into a war if I am wrong.
But I feel like at least two mafia are in this group listed.
And as I filter dive I will place my vote on Shockey as a place holder. Ugh besides mentioning Zen this is literally just Thread sentiment ATM minus DF. Pretty unimpressed. I gotta eat and get moving, I'll try and fishing reading on the way, but I'm ok with my vote on DF. On November 03 2017 06:34 Tictock wrote:
Am I totally OMGUS for wanting to lynch Damer now?
He literally shows up right at EoD with nothing really new to add. Suggests a Me + Zen team with Zen his more likely scum. Then wants to sheep Damdreds read on me?!?
I get that he is buddies with Damdre but Damdred has been so unimpressive this game.
Also can we get a vote count? There were a couple posts where TT was quite harsh on krogan. It does not seem fake to me. + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 10:35 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 09:04 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments. Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility. Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around. Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced. Worst post so far. Good chance of being scum Actually DF I feel like Ruxx had just called out the worst post in this game. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:53 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games you're not as good this game though so that's weird.also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point What’s that supposed to mean??? Last game I played with you DF I felt like we were so in tune, this game you are off in left field to me. Well I do kinda agree with your Krogan read, that dude feels off to me. I don't get why Damdred seems to have a TR on him based off a weak open. All his posts feel super throwaway to me so far. On November 01 2017 11:30 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. The problem with this is that it feels like you are hanging off of HF's coattails since he was the one pushing the point you are making about Conv. Holding back your thoughts is pretty much universally scummy. It leaves us less to read you off of and means you can tailor your reads easier later on to fit scum agenda. More thoughts to come.
Are two good recent posts from Ruxxar.
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On November 10 2017 04:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
Looks like I'm about to get lynched.
That's ok, the game should solved at this point.
Lynch in this order if you want to win.
Zen
Ritoky.
You always lynch zen next. Always.
Don't hesitate, just do it. Show nested quote +On November 09 2017 04:40 ruXxar wrote:Ok so I've read through tick tocks filter again and reached some conclusions. Conclusion #1 is that I am confident that shockey is town.Tick tock was pushing Shockey really hard most of the day, and cross at points in how they interacted. Conclusion #2 is that I feel like damerion is likely town.TT had a couple posts at EOD when we were without a votecount and he was struggling to get shenanigans going. It felt like he was genuinly trying to find a target to latch onto or disperse votes from himself. + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2017 05:58 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 03:44 Damerion wrote:
Hello,
I just woke up from my shift. As such I obviously have a lot of catching uo to do.
I have been trying to keep up with the thread right now and I am in the neighborhood of scum being in these five people.
Shockey/RuxXar/Ticktock/Zen
The fifth person I do not want to say quite yet as I do not want the gane to develop into a war if I am wrong.
But I feel like at least two mafia are in this group listed.
And as I filter dive I will place my vote on Shockey as a place holder. Ugh besides mentioning Zen this is literally just Thread sentiment ATM minus DF. Pretty unimpressed. I gotta eat and get moving, I'll try and fishing reading on the way, but I'm ok with my vote on DF. On November 03 2017 06:34 Tictock wrote:
Am I totally OMGUS for wanting to lynch Damer now?
He literally shows up right at EoD with nothing really new to add. Suggests a Me + Zen team with Zen his more likely scum. Then wants to sheep Damdreds read on me?!?
I get that he is buddies with Damdre but Damdred has been so unimpressive this game.
Also can we get a vote count? There were a couple posts where TT was quite harsh on krogan. It does not seem fake to me. + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 10:35 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 09:04 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments. Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility. Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around. Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced. Worst post so far. Good chance of being scum Actually DF I feel like Ruxx had just called out the worst post in this game. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:53 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games you're not as good this game though so that's weird.also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point What’s that supposed to mean??? Last game I played with you DF I felt like we were so in tune, this game you are off in left field to me. Well I do kinda agree with your Krogan read, that dude feels off to me. I don't get why Damdred seems to have a TR on him based off a weak open. All his posts feel super throwaway to me so far. On November 01 2017 11:30 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. The problem with this is that it feels like you are hanging off of HF's coattails since he was the one pushing the point you are making about Conv. Holding back your thoughts is pretty much universally scummy. It leaves us less to read you off of and means you can tailor your reads easier later on to fit scum agenda. More thoughts to come. Are two good recent posts from Ruxxar.
is your conclusion then that you want to lynch zen over damerion?
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I'm sure though he didn't suspect Damdred being mafia which is probably why he pushed Zen, at this point Zen and Ruxx look like TvT, just like you and I in the beginning of the game. Which goes back to my point that what if Damerion is the next mafia rather than ritoky? I mean, I can see Damerion at this point jumping on the tictock early as well when they realized that the tictock read from Damdred caught fire.
On November 03 2017 06:55 Rels wrote:Day 1 vote count![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/S6r16kP.jpg) ruxXar (3): Oatsmaster, Darthfoley, happykrogan Tictock (3): Damdred, ruXxar, ruXxar, Damerion ShoCkeyy (2): Tictock, Conversion, Vivax, DamerionDarthfoley (1): Oatsmaster, happykrogan, ruXxar, The_Zen_Man, Tictoc Vivax (1): Holyflare , ruXxark Damerion (1): Holyflare, ShoCkeyy Conversion (0): Conversion, ruxXarOatsmaster (0): DarthfoleyNot voted (1): Breshke At the current vote count, ruxXar will be eliminated from the game. Deadline in
Especially when Oats was already pushing Ruxxar, and had him looking like mafia.
Then in this post:
On November 09 2017 07:06 Rels wrote:Final Day 3 vote count ruXxar (3): Conversion, happykrogan, ritoky, The_Zen_Man The_Zen_Man (1): ruXxar Damerion (0): ruXxarShoCkeyy (0): ruXxarConversion (0): ruXxar, ritokyNot voted (3): Damdred, Conversion, ShoCkeyy ruXxar is the lynch.
What looks like three town eliminating what they thought was mafia. Also whats not noted here is that Damerion never voted either. I meant to vote, but that time change fucked me, I'm sure Damerion and Damdred would of easily gotten on the Ruxxar train.
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I'm also referring to this post here:
On November 08 2017 16:48 ruXxar wrote:
If I do a scum evaluation on top of just the maths, I find the people to be scummy in this order based on their interaction in the game:
Damerion
Krogan
Zen.
If I do a scum evaluation based on their previous voting pattern I end up with this order:
Krogan
Zen
Damerion
If I take into account the night kills, then they look scummy in this order:
Damerion
Zen
Krogan
I don’t get anything conclusive out of this, but maybe Damerion is a better vote.
I feel like he needs a bit of pressure to step up and do something in the game.
I’m voting Damerion for now.
##Vote Damerion
At this point, I think it's good to just push him and see what he can come up with.
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Really and truthfully I have already posted why Zen is scum and have already explained why the lack of interaction between Damdred and Zen makes Zen scum.
Also the lack of attack that Zen does towards Damdred but totally goes after everyone else also points to a team as well.
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idk if Damdred is playing scum, why would he attract so much attention to Damerion by saying how towny Damerion is, etc etc
On November 08 2017 01:15 Damdred wrote:
Just as a gut reaction its happy and zen for me.
Tgis whole shockeyy troope about how it makes him scum for killing hf is pretty bad.
Mafia wouldnt fake claim and then kill the person that was doing it, makes no logical sense in that regard. Idk what damer is doing there, his point about vote distancing is okish, but still lacks a bit of oomph.
I think Rit is town though, his and ruxxy reaction to the mod error felt genuine like town being got your lying ass.
So basically the last two mafia have to be in happy/damer/zen, and honestly i dont think zen and damer can be on teams
this is like the only interesting post I'm seeing in Damdy's filter
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On November 03 2017 05:44 Damerion wrote:
Well good I am going to agree with Damdreds earlier assessment of TickTocks play and go along with him.
Ill be back afterwards around lynch time.
On November 03 2017 08:50 Damerion wrote:
Excellent another read that I did correctly.
I believe this makes Damdred lock town, before now I had a slight suspicion that he was scum. But the way he pushed the lynch really seemed to come from a town perspective in this case.
The three things that were intereating around today and during the lynch was this.
1) Zen is most likely mafia in this situation, he seemed to be trying to save TickTock by voting elsewhere which would of saved him aome of the blame of a mislynch.
I think it is a classic newer person mistake, but it is still there. SO TickTock+Zen is a lock for me at this point.
2) Conversion and Vivax both have lauded my reads here and in previous games. However when it mattered both pushed off of where I wished to go.
This in itself is suspicious when they said they would blind follow me at other points.
Those were the three things condensed.
I also think RuxXar is probable town and look elsewhere tommorow
What about these two posts where you pretty much town read Damdred, but some how managed to think I was mafia instantly. I mean it kinda goes with what I posted earlier about you.
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Zen's filter is so much better than Damerion's at this point, Zen at least has content.
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Damerion claims to say why Zen might be scum, but it's hardly a claim, it goes back to this post I made while Ruxxar agreeing:
On November 08 2017 01:49 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2017 01:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I've been on Damerion since the beginning, the first moment he voted for me without even having an idea as to vote for me. You gave him that tone after, which then he talked about trying to make a name for himself. But he hasn't done anything the whole game. It just seems odd that when ever he comes to post, he's posting some 2 cent opinion, and then trying to vote for who ever is the current "train".
You can barely try and make a case out of him cause he only has two pages of filter. He scumreads Zen and myself still. Hasn't updated his reads or even tried to make an effort into playing the game. If Zen so happens to not be mafia, then Damerion is playing really well in hiding.
I mean, I personally I wish Damerion would be on the scum team, but I think we should vote off Krogan based on the day one votes, then the last vote should be between damerion and Zen, but it seems like it'll be Zen anyways. I like this response, it’s very good, but I was more curious why you put holyflares view on damerion in a post that had nothing to do with damerion.
After seeing yesterday's votes, I feel like Damerion is a better choice.
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Ok, so if we go with that TT lynch was a planned lynch (since Damdred was on him pretty early) then it would make sense that the other mafia also goes for TT so they can both get towncred for lynching a mafia. Basically getting the most of their bus. That makes Damerion very likely scum since he was also on TT. This plus all the stuff I wrote about him D3 makes me certain he is the last scum.
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If it was planned, it goes way back to this:
On October 31 2017 04:40 Tictock wrote:
I'll /in to help this get started soon.
I will be the obligatory afk'er. ( I still work 70 hour weeks).
Feel free to give my slot away if anyone else wants to play, but I can at least keep the slot warm.
He probably saw the godfather role and knew it was going to be rough to try and keep up with the game. Post about it in the mafia chat, and earn the town cred for other mafia. What really screwed the pooh was when Damdred never voted again... lol
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Conversion block zen and live, if you do not live I will make the gane easier and self vote tommorow.
I will stake my life on zen being mafia.
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Day 4
No one was killed.
It's now Day 4! Day ends Saturday, Nov 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in .
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Assuming some one got blocked
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v. interesting that I didn't get shot
wouldn't put too much thought into it.
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