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I can understand damdred.
I don’t understand damerion too much.
I’m missing his big analysis posts, and am a bit underwhelmed.
Zen is a closed book that only show up when anybody wants to lynch him, never pushing his own targets.
I still want to lynch him.
Ritoky is smart. Logical. I like that. I feel like he can appreciate a good logical argument, and I miss having such a person around.
I think he either shot HF or it was a setup to make it look like he shot HF.
Krogan hasn’t done anything since day 1.
Just coasting on his D1 analysis and DFs “Last will”.
Stuck in his oats/ruxx scum reads and bus theory. Pretty bad.
Conv/shock are self explanatory.
That’s all the people I remember being in the game.
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On November 08 2017 00:29 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2017 00:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If you lynch me you're letting the mafia win so, go read my filter and you'll see I never claimed it. so who do you want to lynch
I don't mind Damerion at this point.
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On November 08 2017 00:56 Damdred wrote:
I feel manic right now.
Im buying a fucking restaurant idk how to feel, so pumped let me read this shit.
nice congrats!
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An assumption from my side:
The fact that a JK was flipped (with video and all) tells me that the mods had the post prepared for a while.
This means that conversion was the original mafia target for at least part of the night.
The HF night kill change I think was a last minute / late change that caught the mods off guard.
I think this change in mafia nightkill arose due to the escalation in tension from HF when trying to push me and ritoky.
I’m not sure how/if this information is useful.
I just had this on my mind and wanted to get it out there.
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Just as a gut reaction its happy and zen for me.
Tgis whole shockeyy troope about how it makes him scum for killing hf is pretty bad.
Mafia wouldnt fake claim and then kill the person that was doing it, makes no logical sense in that regard. Idk what damer is doing there, his point about vote distancing is okish, but still lacks a bit of oomph.
I think Rit is town though, his and ruxxy reaction to the mod error felt genuine like town being got your lying ass.
So basically the last two mafia have to be in happy/damer/zen, and honestly i dont think zen and damer can be on teams
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I don't mind voting Happy, he's been lackluster, and I know lackluster...
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On November 07 2017 08:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:He's definitely a better mafia player than I am that's for sure one of the main reasons why I didn't mind taking the vigi claim for now. I figured with him trying to "rescind" his claim, he was trying to not get targeted. So I stepped up and just took the claim. It started with this post: When he posted that, I figured he either wasn't really trying to hide his claim, so I didn't mind taking it. Why would he claim it, then no one counter claim, then him rescind. Show nested quote +On November 06 2017 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
I really want to kill damerion though :/ Then there's this.
I’m very interested in hearing why you pointed out that part about damerion shockey.
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I've been on Damerion since the beginning, the first moment he voted for me without even having an idea as to vote for me. You gave him that tone after, which then he talked about trying to make a name for himself. But he hasn't done anything the whole game. It just seems odd that when ever he comes to post, he's posting some 2 cent opinion, and then trying to vote for who ever is the current "train".
You can barely try and make a case out of him cause he only has two pages of filter. He scumreads Zen and myself still. Hasn't updated his reads or even tried to make an effort into playing the game. If Zen so happens to not be mafia, then Damerion is playing really well in hiding.
I mean, I personally I wish Damerion would be on the scum team, but I think we should vote off Krogan based on the day one votes, then the last vote should be between damerion and Zen, but it seems like it'll be Zen anyways.
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On November 08 2017 01:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I've been on Damerion since the beginning, the first moment he voted for me without even having an idea as to vote for me. You gave him that tone after, which then he talked about trying to make a name for himself. But he hasn't done anything the whole game. It just seems odd that when ever he comes to post, he's posting some 2 cent opinion, and then trying to vote for who ever is the current "train".
You can barely try and make a case out of him cause he only has two pages of filter. He scumreads Zen and myself still. Hasn't updated his reads or even tried to make an effort into playing the game. If Zen so happens to not be mafia, then Damerion is playing really well in hiding.
I mean, I personally I wish Damerion would be on the scum team, but I think we should vote off Krogan based on the day one votes, then the last vote should be between damerion and Zen, but it seems like it'll be Zen anyways.
I like this response, it’s very good, but I was more curious why you put holyflares view on damerion in a post that had nothing to do with damerion.
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I don't think HF flipping vig makes shockey scum. I guess I believe him.
And yes I still have my scumread from d1. Didn't see a good reason too change it. Both nightkills make sense when there was a bus.
And both nightkills didn't like you.
Also your zen progression was super strange. Scumread him. Believing him and unvote. Scumread him again without new information.
And pushing shockey is opportunistic again. A very easy mislynch.
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Maybe I'm making it to easy for myself because I don't have too much time right now, but I don't see a reason not to vote for you.
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Damdred can I get thoughts on Rux?
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Honestly I think rux is town, countereagon to ticktock who was godfather.
Tone has been decent, and has seemed to try to solve the game. Tgis sort of thing where you assume both wagons are scum or bussing I think is really tired meh.
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On November 08 2017 03:30 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I think rux is town, countereagon to ticktock who was godfather.
Tone has been decent, and has seemed to try to solve the game. Tgis sort of thing where you assume both wagons are scum or bussing I think is really tired meh.
ty
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On November 08 2017 01:15 Damdred wrote:
Tgis whole shockeyy troope about how it makes him scum for killing hf is pretty bad.
Mafia wouldnt fake claim and then kill the person that was doing it, makes no logical sense in that regard. Idk what damer is doing there, his point about vote distancing is okish, but still lacks a bit of oomph.
teams
This is a good point.
It would be a deathtrap for mafia to even play with that thought.
I can't see why town would do it, but I can't see why mafia would do it either so basically null.
I mean, if shockey is mafia, he knows that HF isnt joking, which means that HF basically has a grip on his balls for the rest of the game and can tighten that vice whenever he feels like it.
I still think that the thought "I want to sacrifice myself for X" is an unnatural thought which I would never consider, but that's just me.
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On November 08 2017 02:03 happykrogan wrote:
Maybe I'm making it to easy for myself because I don't have too much time right now, but I don't see a reason not to vote for you.
I don't mind that, but you sound like a broken record.
Whenever I wonder "what new thoughts does krogan have" I just hear the same old song.
In your last game, you at least seemed more willing to evaluate different viewpoints.
It's fine that you think I'm scum, but your world view is so narrow that I feel like I don't know you at all.
I want you to open up more and engage, have a chat with people, ask some questions.
It seems like to you, events just pass you by like an old tree in a forest.
There's no emotion, no spark, no trace of your thoughts even having been slightly influenced by the happenings around you.
You can say that activity doesn't matter, but human interaction is a very important part of the game, and we humans are pretty good at reading each other through tone and other immaterial means.
Anyway, this turned into some lecturing bullshit. Don't know where I was going with this.
I mean what I said though, and that goes doubly for zen.
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maybe I'll just call zen scum again and vote him so he can come back to the thread
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Hi, so I've been going through Shock with regards to last night kill and I'm pretty sure he is town. I just looked through that whole "blue" claim shock made and it was in fact hf that pushed that "claim" onto him.
On November 06 2017 09:43 Holyflare wrote:
Cos he's the real vig
Now, at this point I think what Shock was trying to do was save the vig from NK. So he let people think he was vig. Hf had already used his shot but was still confirmed town which could be very useful for town. At the very least he wouldn't claim vig as mafia when he both knows hf is the real vig and then also shoot him. Just can't think that mafia would do this at all.
That being said I still have Ruxx as scum-read. He was flailing around on his view on me and seemed to basically follow whatever conversion view on me was. When Conversion unvoted he unvoted, and when Conversion went after me again so did he. He also used some pretty weird arguments, at times even ignoring or misreprisenting posts entirely.
I also find Damerion very scummy. He has called me mafia from the start of the game and I haven't really responded to him because his best argument was that I made a big post D1. He seems to basically want people to blind follow him and finds it suspicious when they don't. From how Damerion speaks about himself he's supposed to me some kind of Mafia god but has one of the smallest filter and has no good arguments for his reads. It seems he is using tunneling on me as a front for actually contributing to the scum-hunt. Almost all of his posts have simply been "Zen is scum, lynch him". So basically wanting to seem like he does something while in reality he is saying the same thing he just said in the post before. If he actually wrote his arguments for it and said why he thought I was scum then that would be fine, would lead to discussion and help with finding who is town and who is scum. But he simply writes "Zen+X is scum, lynch them".
Damerion is now going after shock for reasons that he himself admits are hypocritical. But admitting it dosen't make it any less hypocritical. And he reads the "claim" for vig all wrong. I would think a mafia "god" like himself would figure out that Shock is most likely town with respect to the NK.
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So... Here’s the short of it:
Damerion wants to lynch Shockey + Zen.
Shockey wants to lynch Damerion.
Krogan wants to lynch Ruxx.
Zen wants to lynch Damerion + Ruxx.
From this matrix we can put together these teams:
Zen+Krogan.
Zen+Shockey.
Krogan+Damerion.
I want to lynch either Zen or Krogan today.
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If I do a scum evaluation on top of just the maths, I find the people to be scummy in this order based on their interaction in the game:
Damerion
Krogan
Zen.
If I do a scum evaluation based on their previous voting pattern I end up with this order:
Krogan
Zen
Damerion
If I take into account the night kills, then they look scummy in this order:
Damerion
Zen
Krogan
I don’t get anything conclusive out of this, but maybe Damerion is a better vote.
I feel like he needs a bit of pressure to step up and do something in the game.
I’m voting Damerion for now.
##Vote Damerion
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