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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 01 2017 23:31 GMT
#483
Vivax came to the thread sheeped a really obvious read and grumbled about being a pro sheep and that's about it. The read itself is imo bad because he's posted since then and vivax didn't use any of that and then he continued to do nothing. Didn't even grumble about me and lynching me which is his favourite pastime.

Damerion, as explained, jumped on specifically one shockeyy post and voted to lynch him which is totally out of character from his meandering walls of narrative that eventually lead to a vote in previous games and that instantly jumped out. I don't think he'd do that as town.

Ticktock I feel like he comes into the game to make comments that aren't particularly difficult and sounds arbitrary and made up and then he leaves again after "contributing". It feels very artificial to me and I have no idea why so many people say they like it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 07:14 GMT
#514

I think it is off that HF dropped a vote on Damer with no explanation then pushed Conv for also thinking Damer is scum. Like the post HF made above was the first time I've seen him actually give a reason for his vote.


Why do you keep saying this? I explained it straight away
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 07:18 GMT
#515
Like my 2nd post is my vote and the third is an explanation of that vote. There's quite literally nothing more to talk about Damerion because he hasn't posted a single thing since.

Also conversion effectively called Damerion scummy without saying he was scummy. He said "oh his posting style is completely different and that's bad! (but anyone in context would read that as scummy)" and then be proceeded to quote me from last game to further that argument that Damerion is weird but Damerion was town when I made that argument. Conversion was literally arguing about Damerion being mafia (but apparently it was just strange and not mafia) but using my wrong read to further the argument.

It really wasn't blown out of proportion like you purport at all. That's incredibly disingenuous.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 07:21 GMT
#516
And I have no opinion on the arguments between people like df and ruxxar or whoever because they seemed far too much effort to read. I don't really think df or shockey look too much like mafia though.

Ticktock does because he can't even read the game but still tries to give comments about things. He just has a really surface level view of things.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 16:00 GMT
#536
you can sheep me all you want
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 17:19 GMT
#575
On November 03 2017 01:04 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 16:18 Holyflare wrote:
Like my 2nd post is my vote and the third is an explanation of that vote. There's quite literally nothing more to talk about Damerion because he hasn't posted a single thing since.

Also conversion effectively called Damerion scummy without saying he was scummy. He said "oh his posting style is completely different and that's bad! (but anyone in context would read that as scummy)" and then be proceeded to quote me from last game to further that argument that Damerion is weird but Damerion was town when I made that argument. Conversion was literally arguing about Damerion being mafia (but apparently it was just strange and not mafia) but using my wrong read to further the argument.

It really wasn't blown out of proportion like you purport at all. That's incredibly disingenuous.


You are right I missed you explain your vote in your 3rd post till I reread last night, thought I mentioned that but it may have slipped my attention.

I do think you and many other players blow stuff out of proportion when people are just sharing their thoughts. Like Conv noticed something that was different in Damer's play and made a note about it, then everyone made a huge deal about him speaking his mind. That is what is being blow out of proportion imo. People generally go with feelings and gut reads day one and sometimes those reads aren't super nailed down. That is basically how I play all the time and it always gets me scum read, buy I don't give a shit kus it is how I prefer to approach the game.

It bugs me when I see you guys forcing someone into a corner when there is just misunderstandings about what they are trying to say. The pressure is fine, that is part of the game, it just gets excessive and it's something I notice older scum players will hide behind.


nobody blew anything out of proportion, it is a strange read because he backed up his read with something that was wrong last game!!!!! but to top it all of it wasn't even a read to begin with it turned out, so what you're saying is that we mustn't talk about anything that's strange and instead have no conversation whatsoever

if he just simply said "It's different and I don't like it then fine but he didn't, he argued for pages trying to defend why it's not a bad read when he doesn't even think it makes him an alignment which was bad
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 17:23 GMT
#577
I'm lynching vivax, you guys are welcome to vote for mafia or be on a different wagon.

##vote vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 17:24 GMT
#578
case:

sheeped opening points on shockeyy but pretended they were his own
didn't include any of shockeyy's further posts and evaluate them
constant afk while still around on omgus game sometimes
not doing anything
vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 18:09 GMT
#582
Cool but vivax is mafia though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 19:20 GMT
#594
On November 03 2017 03:44 Damerion wrote:
Hello,

I just woke up from my shift. As such I obviously have a lot of catching uo to do.

I have been trying to keep up with the thread right now and I am in the neighborhood of scum being in these five people.

Shockey/RuxXar/Ticktock/Zen

The fifth person I do not want to say quite yet as I do not want the gane to develop into a war if I am wrong.

But I feel like at least two mafia are in this group listed.

And as I filter dive I will place my vote on Shockey as a place holder.


You know you can just say Holyflare right?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 19:21 GMT
#595
I don't like the fact you've mentioned 5!!! Mafia reads but absolutely 0 reasons.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 20:00 GMT
#614
Oats give me a breakdown if ruxxar thing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 20:00 GMT
#615
Vivax mafia though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 20:27 GMT
#633
On November 03 2017 04:34 Damerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 04:30 ruXxar wrote:
On November 03 2017 03:44 Damerion wrote:
Hello,

I just woke up from my shift. As such I obviously have a lot of catching uo to do.

I have been trying to keep up with the thread right now and I am in the neighborhood of scum being in these five people.

Shockey/RuxXar/Ticktock/Zen

The fifth person I do not want to say quite yet as I do not want the gane to develop into a war if I am wrong.

But I feel like at least two mafia are in this group listed.

And as I filter dive I will place my vote on Shockey as a place holder.


Can I hear your opinion on ticktock and zen?


In the moat concise way possible,

Very little interaction between either of them.
Zen made a rather large post that has enabled him to hide in the aether.
Both are very sideline characters not involved in the lynch, and really there posts are mostly surface level things that come from skimming the thread.

Overall I would say tt is a 6/10 read and zen is slightly stronger at 7/10.

Shockeyy filter is mafia oriented still I believe.


So why is zen scummy for doing that when you literally made 1 post on shockeyy and afkd? What makes him mafia and not just afk? 7/10 is so strong.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 20:44 GMT
#650
On November 03 2017 05:40 Damerion wrote:
Before I head out I will say a couple of things.

Your correct in that it is hypocritical in the way I read people for fitting in with little effort. But juat because I also fit the profile does not mean that others also do not fit that criteria.

Making snide comments does not change the fact that my assessment is correct even if I have to fit the criteria myself.

Secondly I will not say that we should lynch Shockeyy today, he has been one if the more polarizing figures in d1, and it does feel at this point like scum are pretty ok with the lynch.

I really enjoy ny thoughts that Zen+Ticktock+one is the current team I am working with.

I believe we should lynch Ticktock with Damdred today, also its possibke RuxXar is the third with how he was ok with Ticktock but then switched when it was possible ticktock could be lynched.



Yes, it quite literally means that. If you are town and people are displaying the same characteristics as yourself then by definition it is possible that town do those things to so for you to assign that person a 70% chance to be mafia is arbitrary and illogical.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 20:46 GMT
#653
On November 03 2017 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
Here's a game from when I was scum with shockey:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=ShoCkeyy&view=all


This looks way more like trying to appease people and fit in than here.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 21:11 GMT
#680
Does he do that as town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 22:31 GMT
#771
lol i'm well good at this game why didn't you guys listen earlier/all game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 22:53 GMT
#780
I agree, he tried to shut down my god read pretty hard.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 22:58 GMT
#785
On November 01 2017 16:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 16:34 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock's string of posts look really fake to me like he arbitrarily picked an alignment for each post and wrote a bad narrative.

yeah i think the opposite as in its not fake.

I think shockey is really mafia though, totes
##unvote
##vote shockey


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