You did that thing where you do absolutely 0 interaction with me or make me see things from your perspective though and instead just called me mafia since day 1 so that heavily weighs in favour of you being mafia. Couldn't really give a shit if you "handed us mafia on a platter" when you didn't vote that person, you didn't vig that person and you didn't actually do anything about that person.

Holyflare

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October 03 2017 10:15 GMT

#480

Please explain why it doesn't make sense at all?

Damerion makes a plan. It wasn't bad. It involves a vig claiming and watcher and doc being on him. This plan didn't particularly have a flaw. Then you come along and say it does because the gf can't be watched. Then I'm very confused because that's absolutely irrelevant since we have a watcher and that means that the vig cannot be rbd since there is a mafia rber and the watcher is guaranteed to know 2 confirmed townies (medic and vig).

Then I look at the op and notice a very specific wording that mafia have a gf/rb and shot and they must decide how to send these actions. It looked to me like they had a pool of actions and were able to rb and be a gf at the same time. If this was the case then you absolutely slipped about the gf being able to do this because in absolutely 0 other circumstances does your comment about the gf being untrackable have any relevance to damdredfaker's plan as I mentioned above.

So, I asked for clarification and the op was reworded to clarify.

Now, this is where your hypocrisy is by far at its greatest. You say I'm mafia because it's surface level and that you'd not do pro town things as mafia (when did you EVER do a pro town thing? Your statement was trash and irrelevant like I pointed out unless you had tmi about it being a pool of abilities). Then you say I must be mafia because I did pro town things and clarified the op, but called you mafia.

Not once did you ever call for a breshke lynch. Not a single time. 90% of your vivax case is about how vivax treats lurkers the same but ignores one specific case in breshke. You do some arse backwards reasoning that this makes vivax mafia because of it but the giant gap in logic is that who gives a shit about breshke?

You ignore breshke, you don't want to lynch him either, you don't even mention chezinu being mafia for doing what breshke is doing but for some reason when you're guilty of doing what vivax is doing it's misrep, the accuser must be mafia, oh woe is me.

And why should we give a shit if you say you want to kill mafia? When has that ever made the slightest bit of difference in this game to someone's alignment that they wanted an afk guy to die but never pushed his lynch? Never ever ever. Are you saying as mafia you'd completely ignore breshke and let someone else take that glory? I don't believe it for a second.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:19 GMT

#481

It's no secret that I've given roughly 0.5 shits this game about anything but if there's one thing to give a shit about it's the nonsense you've been peddling about me for the past 2 cycles that aren't even grounded in any kind of logic. You always interact with me as town and when you see me demotivated you criticise vivax for not interacting with me but haven't done anything at all to determine my motive or clarify what I was talking about day 1.

I don't think town rayn perpetuates that kind of read on me because of his inability to comprehend a straightforward damerion plan. I think town rayn gets to the bottom of why I think what I do and talks with me.

You've done a whole lot of talking at people and no interaction. A staple mafia rayn ploy.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:22 GMT

#483

If you want to convince people I'm mafia based on your stale rhetoric of oh no hf has surface level read day 1 then you must reason with them why I would even make that read on you in the first place knowing that what I am saying is completely wrong and will get clarified by the host and completely negate everything I wrote.

You must also reason why I've given approximately 0 shits in getting anything of my way this game.

You must also reason why I would miss a deadline and not give a shit about this game and face potential mod action as an alignment where the only thing I care about is getting my way.

Have fun doing this because it's absolutely impossible.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:23 GMT

#484

I am fine with being lynched. Onegu is extremely likely mafia with Chezinu if rayn is not. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if koshi was mafia either.

Holyflare

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October 03 2017 10:25 GMT

#486

And with what little motivation I have I think I've done a fair bit of narrowing down to reach my conclusions tbh.

Holyflare

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October 03 2017 10:27 GMT

#488

I've given little insight on 95% of the game but that doesn't mean anything either. If you think I'm mafia for just not playing the game then I don't know what to tell you other than you have the shittest read I've seen in a while.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:27 GMT

#489

On October 02 2017 08:06 Holyflare wrote:

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Why did we ever shoot this guy. He just gives us free town reads.

Mafia is onegu/rayn.

The real question is why did rayn make his vivax case talking about breshke but never mentioned onegu once? Who knows

.????

Try again koshi

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:30 GMT

#492

I don't want to pressure any of those people. I can't be bothered to play. Onegu didn't claim vt and hasn't posted a single thing this game. Boxer Fred i don't think ever makes such a brazen display and calls himself out as mafia. I think breshke spewed damrien/grack and vivax town.

Chezinu comes back and votes vivax for no reason and has had no fun this game whatsoever. No interaction.

Rayn I've already talkes about.

Koshi has been boring and done nothing but he'll get offended at this sentence but I don't give a shit.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:31 GMT

#493

Mafia is within chez/onegu/koshi/rayn

Holyflare

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October 03 2017 10:33 GMT

#494

Fefe i have no opinion about other than he said he'd sheep me and his posts felt ok.

Holyflare

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October 03 2017 10:35 GMT

#497

I didn't vote anyone day 1 because I was afk for 90% of the day. Why are you under some kind of illusion that I have to play well? I'm not feeling it and that's the end of that. Where's the narrative that I'm just a demotivated town that doesn't give a shit?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:35 GMT

#498

On October 03 2017 19:34 Koshi wrote:

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Mafia needs to make posts that feel ok.

Ok to good. Better than rayn/onegu/chez/you.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:36 GMT

#500

If you can even find a game where I was mafia where I haven't tried my hardest then I'll be extremely impressed at your ability to fabricate events.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

October 03 2017 10:37 GMT

#501

And the focusing on rayn is quite clearly because i am playing like shit so I'm an easy lynch and he has had me as a back pocket mafia read this entire game and it looks so off to me. Don't expect you to agree but it doesn't bother me.