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If Skynx is somehow town then geript will always be mafia. Also Koshi will always be town then. I heavily disagree with people who say geript and Koshi can be mafia together.
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On August 26 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Skynx is somehow town then geript will always be mafia. Also Koshi will always be town then. I heavily disagree with people who say geript and Koshi can be mafia together.
why?
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I feel like artanis is trolling with this koshi read because it's just word for word copying my big post on him.
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On August 26 2017 20:04 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something. Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous. See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process. On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
It is very simple. Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y. No way. He just intentionally leaves out the second part of my post here "TW is not a +1 imo". Which completely invalidates the safe mafia play Koshi implies.
See here is another thing. At the time i intentionally asked Skynx who HE THINKS was the first one (and who is +1'ing).
On August 25 2017 05:44 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Skynx wrote:
What i was thinking posting that is I wouldn't make that comment if i was mafia with Koshi, thats literally it. It doesn't matter, could you please answer me who came to the conclusion first? You can find your answer by reading the thread. I am unsure what you think, what i think doesn't matter if i am trying to get a read on you. You know aswell as i do that Vivax posted it first. I appreciate getting ganged up on guys keep it coming.
You're lying again. At the time Skynx thought Vivax was the one first to point out this. Then TW and LS.
Now he is saying he didn't actually think so after all. If he thought TW and LS were +1'ing Vivax, then the Koshi quote and his 180 after that makes no sense at all. And he DID think so at the time. Now he is saying something else, again...
Classic mafia play, change your story as you see it bet fit.
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Artanis is feeling way off this game. Not only for the skynx read and how he spent ages defending that just to vote him but now he's scum reading geript AND koshi. Koshi read is straight rip of what I said but artanis made no mention of that and how can he scum read both of them??
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On August 26 2017 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 20:04 Skynx wrote:On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something. Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous. See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process. On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
It is very simple. Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y. No way. He just intentionally leaves out the second part of my post here "TW is not a +1 imo". Which completely invalidates the safe mafia play Koshi implies. See here is another thing. At the time i intentionally asked Skynx who HE THINKS was the first one (and who is +1'ing). Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:44 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Skynx wrote:
What i was thinking posting that is I wouldn't make that comment if i was mafia with Koshi, thats literally it. It doesn't matter, could you please answer me who came to the conclusion first? You can find your answer by reading the thread. I am unsure what you think, what i think doesn't matter if i am trying to get a read on you. You know aswell as i do that Vivax posted it first. I appreciate getting ganged up on guys keep it coming. You're lying again. At the time Skynx thought Vivax was the one first to point out this. Then TW and LS. Now he is saying he didn't actually think so after all. If he thought TW and LS were +1'ing Vivax, then the Koshi quote and his 180 after that makes no sense at all. And he DID think so at the time. Now he is saying something else, again... Classic mafia play, change your story as you see it bet fit.
You know how i think better then me?
See my reply to HF,
Vivax was first to bring it up, no objection and thats what i said.
TW's reaction was "lmao", not a +1, thats a fact.
TW's reaction to me continuing my push is same as Vivax, which is not a +1 cuz it came as a second thought.
/finalreplyonthismatter
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On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.
We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be? Mind meld? The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling. You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you. That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo
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On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.
Like i cannot see how anyone can actually think (1) and (2) are true at the same time.
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On August 26 2017 21:01 Vivax wrote:
I'd settle for killing Ruxxar who sits in the sidelines occasionally sniping vulnerable posts as well and other reasons mentioned earlier. I think he's also mafia cause he doesn't sound as pants on head while being spammy as fuck like the last game I was in with him.
Also Oats, but his bad tunnel on me might have clouded my judgement.
Then Artanis for pretending to agree with the whole skynx issue then immediately starting to post a case on Koshi and laughing at skynx while doing it.
Then HF for a bit of paranoia and cause he's also after Koshi.
That should also be enough reads for skynx. The rest of the game is pretty much in at the very least a weak town pile. I still don't see how anything makes Koshi mafia besides for wanting to kill afkers at some point, and jokish posts where he claims scum.
So thats a scumread on Oats, Art and HF?
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On August 26 2017 21:11 Holyflare wrote:
Artanis is feeling way off this game. Not only for the skynx read and how he spent ages defending that just to vote him but now he's scum reading geript AND koshi. Koshi read is straight rip of what I said but artanis made no mention of that and how can he scum read both of them??
Yeah i don't really know how he can scumread them both. Probably individually but still.. One of them is always going to be town imo. Why doesn't he care which one we lynch?
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On August 26 2017 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:1: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:
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(that shitty bastard game, koshi town)
yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general
##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be? Mind meld? The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling. You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you. That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo 2: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game. Like i cannot see how anyone can actually think (1) and (2) are true at the same time.
You're just focusing on "That's what I'm trying to say"
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On August 26 2017 21:16 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:1: On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
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72 hours mafia. Town.
I don't think that's how you should hunt scum.
And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this.
What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be? Mind meld? The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling. You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you. That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo 2: On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game. Like i cannot see how anyone can actually think (1) and (2) are true at the same time. You're just focusing on "That's what I'm trying to say"
Then what did you mean by it?
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I would really like to give you the correct answer here but sorry i can't, you have to say it yourself.
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I see how i constructed it horribly actually.
TW +1'ing was not true so what Koshi implied wasn't true so i said that's what i mean trying to imply the opposite was true as his basis was wrong.
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Okay i am completely fine with that.
##unvote
##vote geript
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On August 26 2017 21:29 Skynx wrote:
I see how i constructed it horribly actually.
TW +1'ing was not true so what Koshi implied wasn't true so i said that's what i mean trying to imply the opposite was true as his basis was wrong.
Koshi didn't ask whether TW +1d, he asked why ppl asking you to check his town games can't be mafia.
This isn't about TW +1ing.
You said that it's what you mean (that they can be mafia) after saying that they are town if Koshi is mafia.
This really isn't about TW +1ing or not.
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On August 26 2017 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i am completely fine with that.
##unvote
##vote geript
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On August 26 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 21:29 Skynx wrote:
I see how i constructed it horribly actually.
TW +1'ing was not true so what Koshi implied wasn't true so i said that's what i mean trying to imply the opposite was true as his basis was wrong. Koshi didn't ask whether TW +1d, he asked why ppl asking you to check his town games can't be mafia. This isn't about TW +1ing. You said that it's what you mean (that they can be mafia) after saying that they are town if Koshi is mafia. This really isn't about TW +1ing or not.
They can't be mafia because of mind meld. But mind meld wouldn't exist if they were easily just +1'ing you but thats not the case.
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geript can form a read on Tumblewood for one post, geript can't form any read on Ruxxar. I don't wanna explain this again, go read what he says in his post where he implies he can meta ruxxar and when ruxxar acts completely different from geript's meta on him, he just doesn't even care to do anything with it.
Furthermore geript loves proving me wrong when he thinks i am lynching stupid. In this game he apparently thought i am lynching stupid (Skynx) since he doesn't care to comment on it in any way, or scumread me (what other conclusion there is?). But he doesn't care at all pointing me out onto right track, he doesn't care to comment on this in any single way.
Basically geript doesn't think i am mafia, doesn't agree with my case, and doesn't do anything with it. Makes sense if he is mafia.
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Vivax, he is saying he did not actually say "i think what Koshi says here is right", which is probably correct. In that light his thought process actually makes sense, regardless of how good or bad it is.
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On August 26 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
You said that it's what you mean (that they can be mafia) after saying that they are town if Koshi is mafia.
This really isn't about TW +1ing or not.
He has already explained this.
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