• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:15
CEST 18:15
KST 01:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
Mihu vs Korea Players Statistics BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 21461 users

[M][N] Names Are Hard 2 - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 24 2017 21:58 GMT
#279
I am afk a bit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 24 2017 22:15 GMT
#287
So in your world I have a wrong read on Skynx but a correct read on geript. But because I have a wrong read on Skynx I can't have a correct read on geript.

Looks like bad logic to me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 24 2017 22:21 GMT
#291
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 24 2017 22:24 GMT
#294
On August 25 2017 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
What the shit are you saying? Why can't he just be mafia independently for not talking about important things and giving free reads?

You don't probably understand, but trust me, i am telling you this:
If Skynx is town in this game, geript is not mafia.
100%.

If geript is mafia. Does that make Skynx mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 24 2017 22:27 GMT
#296
On August 25 2017 06:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:46 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:43 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:36 Koshi wrote:
Oh TW. If you are town. Pay attention to geript. Him entering the thread with a townread on you is suspicious as fuck.

I do not know why mafia geript would enter like that.
I do not know how town geript can have that read.

are you telling me to watch out for geript because you think i'm mafia and he's supposed to know that

No. I am telling you that if you are town. You should know it is pretty weird with 4 townleaders yelling in a fast growing thread geript comes in with a townread on you. There are easier townreads to have in this thread.

And that townread on you is lazy as fuck.

geript called other people town too.

We are not going to be friends this game rayn. Sad days.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 24 2017 22:32 GMT
#299
I am also going to bed. geript being mafia makes TW and rayn more likely town. Which is pretty insane because I have townreads on all other people that posted today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 24 2017 23:03 GMT
#302
Well you came back in when all townleaders were gone and gave pretty mediocre analysis. Hopefully we will see more.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 24 2017 23:05 GMT
#303
Also dont see why I am null while you suggest I am a top town read in your skynx segment.

I'll think about it tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 07:34 GMT
#318
On August 25 2017 15:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 06:02 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk what else there is to do, you tell me.

I dnu.

Isn't it weird Artanis made a couple of post seemingly on a computer then says he is working so he can't post more.

Dnu. It's 23h00 and the guy is working on a computer but can't follow the thread? Meh.

For some context: I was actually phoneposting and my work is in social media where there's constant activity that I have to respond to so no I actually can't post when I'm working.

It's fine. I was reaching because I wanted to change subjects.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 07:35 GMT
#319
On August 25 2017 14:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
In hypocritical news, I want to call HF scum but I have absolutely no reason for it.

I don't want to murder irl him because he makes sense.

↑free reason
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 07:49 GMT
#320
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do.

3/20

Might be nitpicking but I don't understand why there are suddenly 4 townreads and their reasoning in this post. I don't understand his case on me anyway.

This entire paragraph is a big pile of defensive shit from geript:
1) I (geript) am not mafia because I don't play mafia like this. (hiding in an entire story about HF and thread control)
2) Here are my townreads + excuses why I din't post them earlier (So Koshi his point on me about not having townreads on the thread leaders is wrong.)
3) I (geript) am downplaying/ridiculing Koshi his scumread on me.



It should be quite clear to everybody what I meant that geript didn't get triggered/talked about the thread leaders. Him coming in with only something on TW and not the 5 people who posted the most is weird. Him only creating a townread on rayn after getting called out by rayn, and then in the same breath call me mafia does not nullify my initial point.

I hope that is clear to everybody.



tldr: geript is still mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 07:57 GMT
#321
This is pure theorycrafting for when I reread my filter.


I don't think TW is mafia with geript. I don't think rayn is mafia with geript.
Due to geripts first 2 posts.

I think if geript is town, rayn might be mafia.
Which makes it that geript is completely off track. Which makes it annoying for me to read him town. Which makes it hard to catch rayn. Luckily some people are townreading rayn so I shouldn't worry too much about this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 08:19 GMT
#324
Town for a very long time:
Damdred

Going to read them town for now:
LightningStrike
Vivax
HF

LS. looks innocent. He should stop being mainly innocent and try to solve the game more active though.
Vivax. Fooled me once with superb play on D1. If he shows the same commitment like he did yesterday today he is lock town.
HF. Probably lock town as well. Bad reasoned read on me off the gate. And then was mediocre active. Needs to upgrade his activeness to become town. I think it is a bit too low atm.

Very very slight townread:
Artanis[Xp]
Tumblewood

Going to accept them as potential town but I don't know why, most likely because I don't want to call them mafia just yet.
raynpelikoneet
Skynx

MIA
Oatsmaster
ruXxar

Mafia
Geript
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 08:21 GMT
#325
On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.

1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given
2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx
3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing

His read on you is better explained. I agree that the analysis yesterday was lacking.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 08:24 GMT
#327
Town for a very long time
Damdred

Going to read them town for now
LightningStrike (looks innocent. He should stop being mainly innocent and try to solve the game more active though.)
Vivax (Fooled me once with superb play on D1. If he shows the same commitment like he did yesterday today he is lock town.)
HF (Probably lock town as well. Bad reasoned read on me off the gate. And then was mediocre active. Needs to upgrade his activeness to become town. I think it is a bit too low atm. )

Going to accept them as potential town but I don't know why, most likely because I don't want to call them mafia.
raynpelikoneet
Skynx

Very very slight townread
Artanis[Xp]
Tumblewood

MIA
Oatsmaster
ruXxar

Mafia
Geript
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 08:32 GMT
#332
On August 25 2017 17:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 17:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.

1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given
2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx
3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing

His read on you is better explained. I agree that the analysis yesterday was lacking.

So you are saying you have a townread on Artanis because he can correctly townread me (when you for example can't).... weaaaakkkkkk.

very very weak like I explained.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 08:37 GMT
#337
Yeah rayn is becoming more and more likely town. His D1 has been lacking for a while now. It's ok.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 08:40 GMT
#340
On August 25 2017 17:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:46 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:45 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

rayn told them to.

Nha they left earlier. Meh.
It's good that you stayed.

Didn't like that Vivax/TW/LS aren't mafia with Koshi line tbh. But I like that you are posting and trying to solve the game. You are fine for now.

Got anything you want to discuss?


Please tell me this was a sentence of courtesy cause he was just answering questions that arose from his really weird conclusion.

Maybe it was. I'll admit that my feels on Skynx are not townie. More like... w.e let's move on and lynch him if we can't find better later.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 08:42 GMT
#342
On August 25 2017 17:40 Holyflare wrote:
Geript post was so trash it pains me. Like he expects me to read or what? None of his quotes contained the name koshi and it was all in reference to koshi. Then he basically just calls a bunch of us town and feeds my ego.

It was a pure defence post that looked like a scum or pressure post on me. Superbad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2017 08:45 GMT
#347
Well. With my current townreads being town bosses we can lynch Artanis for funzies.
I had a good night of sleep.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Fire Grow Cup
15:00
#10 - Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings194
MindelVK60
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .273
Vindicta 147
BRAT_OK 113
ProTech95
MindelVK 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5359
Rain 2536
EffOrt 1319
Horang2 658
firebathero 253
Aegong 167
TY 144
PianO 91
sSak 79
sas.Sziky 73
[ Show more ]
Hyun 72
Sea.KH 70
Barracks 60
Mong 18
soO 18
GoRush 16
yabsab 11
Terrorterran 10
Britney 0
Dota 2
Gorgc9379
qojqva2613
syndereN289
XcaliburYe273
boxi98140
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 39
Counter-Strike
fl0m6047
olofmeister3410
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang02174
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor287
Other Games
tarik_tv44553
singsing1948
FrodaN1149
mouzStarbuck418
Fuzer 305
KnowMe118
ArmadaUGS115
XaKoH 103
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream7415
Other Games
BasetradeTV118
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3666
League of Legends
• Jankos2210
Other Games
• Shiphtur200
Upcoming Events
BSL: ProLeague
1h 45m
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
7h 45m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 18h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 18h
GSL Code S
2 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
3 days
GSL Code S
3 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Cheesadelphia
5 days
GSL Code S
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-05
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.