[M][N] Names Are Hard 2 - Page 2

On August 25 2017 05:22 Koshi wrote:

Sleeping it is 4am where he is. Or later.

On August 25 2017 06:11 Holyflare wrote:


ahhh that's my point exactly though!

it's a weird train of thought to go through koshi's scum games and then get met with three people saying "But what about his town games?" and then decide that if koshi is mafia then they're all town

did you conclude that koshi does this opening as town too? <-------- super important question plz answer

On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.

1/20

On August 25 2017 06:39 Koshi wrote:
I made this myself

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 25 2017 06:21 geript wrote:

I'm the towniest of all. Also, I'm pretty sure that Koshi is mafia. His post towards you and asking about Damdred's townread is pretty out of place. As Town, you love to lynch stupid; it's like your kryptonite. But as mafia you have much less of a hardon for stupid from what I've seen and just push 85% bullshit. Koshi not getting this after the last two games is pretty odd; especially since Tina brought it up in generic and Koshi was bussing her at various points.

On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.


A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.



Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro

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On August 25 2017 09:34 geript wrote:

You don't find it interesting that Koshi is calling me scum both for noticing his posting and for not noticing his posting? That's not in any way weird about it?

IDK if I explained it well the first time. Like let me explain it this way. Koshi is scumreading me for, at 6:14, posting this:



I am posting about TW's post:

That post is here on page 10 at 5:47.

Koshi's first relevant post on the subject is:

That post is here at 5:49.

Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for something I couldn't even have read if I'm following the thread in any kind of reasonable way. Like Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for how he reads Rayn in when the whole Skynx situation doesn't even really resolve until my first post is already made.

Like that's a really fucking weird argument to be making. It's strikes a bunch on the idea of, "You'll scumread me for the right reasons." Like you should be scumreading me at point A for what I do at point B when point B follows point A.

On August 25 2017 19:02 Koshi wrote:
Oatsmaster, Ruxxar, Geript

I think I am lynching into this. If town wants Skynx it will be without my support.

On August 25 2017 22:22 Damdred wrote:
@Geript, while I appreciate your need to explain your koshi scum read elaborately. Please do not avoid my questions, What is your read on hf?

@LS was there a post of arts you specifically did not like?

On August 25 2017 22:41 Damdred wrote:


Help me la who scum?

On August 25 2017 22:53 Damdred wrote:


Does it seemed forced both ways or just geript towards koshi?

On August 25 2017 23:03 Koshi wrote:
Anyway LS. If you want bigger targets. Which are they? Xcept geript?

On August 25 2017 23:05 Skynx wrote:
Art's comeback to the thread seemed kinda underwhelming for me, he's been called out i think for 1st post and disappearing. Most of the content he posted recently felt like he had to post something to me.

On August 25 2017 23:24 Skynx wrote:

That's a pretty good list. I'm flying on a similar route, just more reluctant to have LS, rayn and HF as super towns.
rayn's push on me seems like towny but there is no conclusion to it. No vote on me and his last thoughts when i was around looked like he had me as bad town but he's still pushing the agenda of mafia!skynx.
HF and LS are playing a pretty laid back and safe game so far, maybe HF a bit less but thats just HF being in the thread. LS in general seem to lack having any opinions other than me and rayn as town.

On August 25 2017 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
I hard claim blue so you now know my reads are legitimate.

Join me please.

On August 25 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:

Well... Then who do you want to lynch if not geript and the afkers?

On August 25 2017 23:36 Holyflare wrote:


When have I ever done this as mafia day 1???

On August 25 2017 23:38 Holyflare wrote:
Ok then ignore the claim and read the content???