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People off wagon and on artanis look terrible
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Bla bla but people on koshi mislynch bla
Fuck that. Artanis wagon blazed into existence and still people felt like not giving a shit and afking while saying "oh last will not mafia-y!"
Skynx and damdred both guilty of that.
Also that vote count has two rayns so now i don't even know where he votef
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On August 27 2017 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:Well lex is pretty much town with that last post it kinda shitty though. Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
People off wagon and on artanis look terrible Says the person who hammered town!Koshi......
Dude looked mafia af
I also had reasons to be on this wagon. All the artanis ones are born from confusion and what even
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On August 27 2017 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
I also had reasons to be on this wagon. All the artanis ones are born from confusion and what even Stop this bullshit right now if you are town.
Um what? You waited until right at the end of the day to even say anything and it's all stuff that happened ages ago. Then suddenly a hundred people turn up and artanis gets voted. No that's fucking suspect as fuck.
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On August 27 2017 04:44 Damdred wrote:
You ignored my fucking points hf. You just brushed them off, that's such shit. I at least give you the time of day and don't ignore your points.
The artanis points are/were good I brought up. I was against the koshi lynch all day as were a multitude of other people. I am a sucker for a last will.
You were wrong, now read what I wrote and at least respond to me.
I read your points. I made the same exact points. I weighed them up and came to the conclusion I didn't care because he was lynching koshi.
Who is now confirmed extremely rude by the way. Fuck you koshi.
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On August 27 2017 04:30 Damdred wrote:
Fuck I'm a sucker for last wills.
Nvm this was at deadline on the dot. Ignore the hate.
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On August 27 2017 04:47 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:46 Holyflare wrote:On August 27 2017 04:44 Damdred wrote:
You ignored my fucking points hf. You just brushed them off, that's such shit. I at least give you the time of day and don't ignore your points.
The artanis points are/were good I brought up. I was against the koshi lynch all day as were a multitude of other people. I am a sucker for a last will.
You were wrong, now read what I wrote and at least respond to me. I read your points. I made the same exact points. I weighed them up and came to the conclusion I didn't care because he was lynching koshi. Who is now confirmed extremely rude by the way. Fuck you koshi. Fuck you. Koshi not defending was so fucking obvious. You should have showed in the thread.
No it's not obvious because he did the exact same thing when he was mafia that got caught out. He couldn't be bothered.
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On August 27 2017 04:29 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.
TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.
Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar
Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF
Null:
TW
Oats
Null-scummish
Geript
Scum
Damdred
Koshi You are not the lynch right now.
Why did your vote stay on artanis after this?
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Artanis points are simply he switched reads a lot. Why does that make him mafia?
I agree with them and it's a non alignment indicative thing. Especially since he was voting my lynch of choice AND basically sheeped my case without knowing it. Allegedly.
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And like I said before, him not defending did not make him town.
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On August 27 2017 04:52 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:49 Holyflare wrote:On August 27 2017 04:29 Skynx wrote:On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.
TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.
Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar
Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF
Null:
TW
Oats
Null-scummish
Geript
Scum
Damdred
Koshi You are not the lynch right now. Why did your vote stay on artanis after this? Such an irrelevant question. I still think Art is mafia, in case someone wakes up we lynch mafia. I knew koshi was town when he didn't defend.
It says you're not the lynch. Why would you post that if you think he's mafia??
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Artanis[Xp] (5) - Damdred, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, Lightningstrike, Skynx
So TW it's scummy that I question and hound the guy you voted for when you also said
hf post 404
That you liked post 404 which is
On August 25 2017 20:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective. I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong. Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong?? Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town. Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia." ................. Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+
The EXACT thing that you said is a good post for harassing artanis is now the thing that you use to base a scum read on me.
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It should be quite obvious why people off koshi are scummy though. The koshi train had legit points that I've argued and not one person countered them with anything whatsoever. Blanket "oh I think koshi is town though" statements are so so bull shit and disingenuous. The wagon had pure reasons, koshi was a shitter but yet people still were hesitant for 0 explained reasons.
Koshi is a ridiculously hars person to push when he's town and the mafia know it. That's why I'm looking at people who didn't vote him.
This is the rels 2.0 lynch.
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On August 27 2017 17:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 17:34 Holyflare wrote:
It should be quite obvious why people off koshi are scummy though. The koshi train had legit points that I've argued and not one person countered them with anything whatsoever. Blanket "oh I think koshi is town though" statements are so so bull shit and disingenuous. The wagon had pure reasons, koshi was a shitter but yet people still were hesitant for 0 explained reasons.
Koshi is a ridiculously hars person to push when he's town and the mafia know it. That's why I'm looking at people who didn't vote him.
This is the rels 2.0 lynch. To be fair, I normally am too. Us both being afk near EoD made either of our lynches a lot easier.
The people on koshi were on him for at least half a cycle so not particularly true.
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Your wagon formed in like 20 minutes
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I need to change my perspective. I was just annoyed by people not voting koshi for no reasons when they were pretty good. You're right about artanis' posts and it just reminded me about his koshi read switch.
What were the votes when he decided to sheep me?
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Oh you wrote a post about it om
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Artanis have you always been up to date with the thread when you post your scum reads?
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What about when you made the koshi read? Had you caught up at that point?
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