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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 18:53 GMT
#1861
On August 18 2017 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 03:41 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.

Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.

No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


On August 18 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:42 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.

i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.

Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable

i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.

Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.

Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 18:56 GMT
#1862
Like no matter how important it is to discuss Ritoky, Rels, Cop, Damdred, Ever, etc. We still need to remember that TW is fucking scum and why. We need to make sure that we don't get swept up lynching maybes when we have guaranteed scum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 18:57 GMT
#1863
On August 18 2017 03:53 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:41 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.

Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.

No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:42 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.

i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.

Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable

i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.

Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.

Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.

Sorry i mean atm. I don't know who thinks he is town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 18:58 GMT
#1864
geript i don't think you need to tell the town where everyone thinks TW is mafia that "remember TW is mafia".
table for two on a tv tray
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 19:01 GMT
#1865
Why you ignore me geript?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 17 2017 19:02 GMT
#1866
On August 18 2017 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 01:26 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
This post was directed toward Tumblewood. Now Tumblewood is hard defending rayn effectively because he for some reason magics up that town rayn can be passive if he wants???

i'm not hard defending rayn. rayn is null at best for me. i'm just arguing against an attack on what i don't think is grounds for an attack.
ta da



Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i think 1der is town for his response to this

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 01:35 Tumblewood wrote:
thanks euros for the 20 pages while i was sleeping
i read half of them and i think cake is the clearest town. i'm also moving 1der into weak town.
i appreciate rayn but i'm waffling on him hard. not necessarily defending himself in a townie or scummy way, just very actively.
damdred seems like town, but that said i don't know if i've ever played with scum!damdred.



Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels


Hopeless is town, then weak town. Rayn is null then waffle hard because reasons. I don't see any mention of ff from you at all other than an "oh i thought he's towny".

Somehow rayn isn't your vote. Why?

did you notice that ***two days and rayn's mini-blowup passed*** between the posts you quoted
Also you spend your time making a town case on copcake, why? Why do you spend all your time on that but run out of time to look at the 3 people up for lynch and somehow read hopeless in 3 minutes?

i spent my time ***before the lynch pool was announced*** casing my strongest townread because i did not trust the other two as much. and then when i knew who we could even lynch into you announced that you were shooting rayn and so i left for a bit, and then when i came back (admittedly much too close to deadline) i realized rayn wasn't going to die anyway so i speed-read ff's and 1der's filters and came to the conclusion that ff was highly likely town and 1der was less likely town.
good times for all
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 19:03 GMT
#1867
On August 18 2017 04:01 Damdred wrote:
Why you ignore me geript?

Sorry, I saw your post on ritoky and liked it.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 19:05 GMT
#1868
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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 17 2017 19:07 GMT
#1869
On August 18 2017 03:53 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:41 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.

Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.

No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:42 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.

i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.

Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable

i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.

Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.

Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.

  • i explicitly said i was still catching up (and i still haven't gotten to the middle pages between where i left off and page 80)
  • i did not say you are scummy. i said you are PoE, not that you are scummy. you will remain PoE until i read your filter, which i will do when i am at home at my pc. also i don't know what huge case you are referring to. (and my top townreads are strong. i reserve the right to shove it in your face postgame if i am right on all of those.)


so basically you have misrepresented me in every single thing you said. congrats.
good times for all
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 19:08 GMT
#1870
On August 18 2017 04:02 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 01:26 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
This post was directed toward Tumblewood. Now Tumblewood is hard defending rayn effectively because he for some reason magics up that town rayn can be passive if he wants???

i'm not hard defending rayn. rayn is null at best for me. i'm just arguing against an attack on what i don't think is grounds for an attack.
ta da



On August 15 2017 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i think 1der is town for his response to this

On August 16 2017 01:35 Tumblewood wrote:
thanks euros for the 20 pages while i was sleeping
i read half of them and i think cake is the clearest town. i'm also moving 1der into weak town.
i appreciate rayn but i'm waffling on him hard. not necessarily defending himself in a townie or scummy way, just very actively.
damdred seems like town, but that said i don't know if i've ever played with scum!damdred.



On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels


Hopeless is town, then weak town. Rayn is null then waffle hard because reasons. I don't see any mention of ff from you at all other than an "oh i thought he's towny".

Somehow rayn isn't your vote. Why?

did you notice that ***two days and rayn's mini-blowup passed*** between the posts you quoted
Show nested quote +
Also you spend your time making a town case on copcake, why? Why do you spend all your time on that but run out of time to look at the 3 people up for lynch and somehow read hopeless in 3 minutes?

i spent my time ***before the lynch pool was announced*** casing my strongest townread because i did not trust the other two as much. and then when i knew who we could even lynch into you announced that you were shooting rayn and so i left for a bit, and then when i came back (admittedly much too close to deadline) i realized rayn wasn't going to die anyway so i speed-read ff's and 1der's filters and came to the conclusion that ff was highly likely town and 1der was less likely town.

I think he means you don't imply your read on me changes between there anywhere.
table for two on a tv tray
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 19:10 GMT
#1871
yeah! fuck you tumblewood! dunno what we're on about, but every1 is doing it!
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2017 19:11 GMT
#1872
On August 18 2017 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
-> ritoky is top scum
-> ritoky lies
-> "i thought damdred is most likely mafia but you lied so now you are"


That is not how happened and even in my post said it <_< "Damred was more scum but because you lied HERE now you are more scum"

Is this so hard to understand or do I need to use apples with you?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 19:15 GMT
#1873
i have clicked a filter! is any1 proud of my effort?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 17 2017 19:15 GMT
#1874
On August 18 2017 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 18 2017 04:02 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 01:26 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
This post was directed toward Tumblewood. Now Tumblewood is hard defending rayn effectively because he for some reason magics up that town rayn can be passive if he wants???

i'm not hard defending rayn. rayn is null at best for me. i'm just arguing against an attack on what i don't think is grounds for an attack.
ta da



On August 15 2017 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i think 1der is town for his response to this

On August 16 2017 01:35 Tumblewood wrote:
thanks euros for the 20 pages while i was sleeping
i read half of them and i think cake is the clearest town. i'm also moving 1der into weak town.
i appreciate rayn but i'm waffling on him hard. not necessarily defending himself in a townie or scummy way, just very actively.
damdred seems like town, but that said i don't know if i've ever played with scum!damdred.



On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels


Hopeless is town, then weak town. Rayn is null then waffle hard because reasons. I don't see any mention of ff from you at all other than an "oh i thought he's towny".

Somehow rayn isn't your vote. Why?

did you notice that ***two days and rayn's mini-blowup passed*** between the posts you quoted
Also you spend your time making a town case on copcake, why? Why do you spend all your time on that but run out of time to look at the 3 people up for lynch and somehow read hopeless in 3 minutes?

i spent my time ***before the lynch pool was announced*** casing my strongest townread because i did not trust the other two as much. and then when i knew who we could even lynch into you announced that you were shooting rayn and so i left for a bit, and then when i came back (admittedly much too close to deadline) i realized rayn wasn't going to die anyway so i speed-read ff's and 1der's filters and came to the conclusion that ff was highly likely town and 1der was less likely town.

I think he means you don't imply your read on me changes between there anywhere.

yeah, and i don't think i posted about anything but hf's vig shot in that gap either. but at about the point where i heard about hf's vig shot i had started townreading you, and it may or may not show in those interactions with hf.
good times for all
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2017 19:15 GMT
#1875
I cant believe someone who raged over a clock, then goes emo and then turned "rayn be happy i hope you have a good day" couldnt remember the game or forgets what he has done, at least the basic he should remember.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 19:16 GMT
#1876
On August 18 2017 04:07 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 18 2017 03:53 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:41 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.

Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.

No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


On August 18 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:42 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.

i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.

Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable

i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.

Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.

Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.

  • i explicitly said i was still catching up (and i still haven't gotten to the middle pages between where i left off and page 80)
  • i did not say you are scummy. i said you are PoE, not that you are scummy. you will remain PoE until i read your filter, which i will do when i am at home at my pc. also i don't know what huge case you are referring to. (and my top townreads are strong. i reserve the right to shove it in your face postgame if i am right on all of those.)


so basically you have misrepresented me in every single thing you said. congrats.

TW: "Here's my updated reads"
Also TW: "I haven't finished catching up"

TW: "Puts X person in a list that contains all scum"
Also TW: "X person is not scummy"

The yo-yo is real
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2017 19:16 GMT
#1877
Like faking emotion and passion into something is fucking mafia.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 17 2017 19:16 GMT
#1878
On August 18 2017 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
paint me a picture

Audience member, please do not actively engage the contestants or enter the game area.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 19:17 GMT
#1879
On August 18 2017 04:11 CopCake wrote:
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On August 18 2017 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
-> ritoky is top scum
-> ritoky lies
-> "i thought damdred is most likely mafia but you lied so now you are"


That is not how happened and even in my post said it <_< "Damred was more scum but because you lied HERE now you are more scum"

Is this so hard to understand or do I need to use apples with you?



On August 15 2017 02:45 CopCake wrote:
If I have to lynch someone I think I would lynch Ritoki

[B]On August 15 2017 05:15 CopCake wrote:
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On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...




You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.

I said Damred was the mafia more likely.

How is that not what happened?
table for two on a tv tray
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 17 2017 19:21 GMT
#1880
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
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On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
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On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

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On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
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On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

is this the case geript is talking about?
because it seems to be entirely predicated on me disliking 1der's posts and me claiming to read the filters when in reality i did not. to which i say:
- i didn't dislike 1der's posts (in fact, i only said positive things about them), but i liked ff's posts more than i liked 1der's posts.
- i skimmed the filters, but i skim filters most of the time anyway, because what i am looking for is tone and reactions. (plus i had already read through the first parts of the filters so that sped things up considerably.) not Systematically and Logically analysing people's Logic in Every Post, though i am sure you would like me to.
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