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No. Tumblewood has no reason to lie there because as mafia, he can just choose not to. The only reason for him to lie, is if he makes up shit to put his vote on town instead of his scumbuddy. We all know this is not the case since ff flipped town.
Do you seriously think Tumble says hes gonna read filters, doeant read them, and puts down a vote with quoting some random post as mafia? When the alternative is he can just what he did after, that he thinks there is no right answer, and just place a vote. Do you think he doeant see or think he will get caught on what he did if he is mafia and the narrative others have given for his action?
Seriously, has everyone lost the ability to think lately? This is like the stupid case on skynx last game..
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You dont make up that you tried so hard when you know yourself you didnt. Especially tumblewood.
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He didnt evwn fucking say he tried so hard. In fact he said the opposite.
Speed read != try hard
I think there is no right answer != try hard
Even if he was mafia, he basically said he didnt try hard. So how about people stop saying stuff that is factually incorrect.
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Another newsflash; people defend people against shit cases even if they dont necessarily have a town read on them. I can point out many games where i have called out shit logic even when i think the said target is mafia. Because ahot case is a shit case. You can give me 100 offenses of that in basically every game i have ever played.
Tumblewoods defence on your case against me was 100% logical and correct. There is that. That is not TMi because he only talked about evidence rhat was at the time in thread. Unlike Koshi for example last game.
I dont even think tumblewood has any reason to "defend me" there as mafia.
Maybe he decided to do something else instead of calling ff/hopeless mafia because he did think neither of them was mafia... why is that impossible? Why does tumblewood not just simply talk about hopeless and ff as mafia? wow now he cared about the lynch and assuming hopeless is town which is very likely, he did the "right thing" with basically zero risk. Why do you think my conclusion makes less sense than yours?
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I already made one on you. I dont care if people believe it or not.
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Nah i am just gonna afk again. I am getting angry and i have better things to do than being angry.
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One thing though. I dont give anu fucks if i am the only one having my opinion on tumblewood. I was the only one who could come to a corrwct conclusion on skynx, even in the obs qt, and if it wasnt for the cop check he would have been 100% lynched based on something mafia 99,9% certain never does, aka garbage.
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Okay. That makes more sense on TW. I forgot he had hopeless as possible mafia earlier. The tmi point isnt good though. I know i would have made the same thing as town when you called Koshi mafia or 3rd party when i was mafia.
Maybe i am wrong and he is scum. I can agree to the FF thing.
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Why is conversion town? Or is he in your opinion? Rels can die for all i care.
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Btw cake is town because she is actually posting at 3am.
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On August 17 2017 21:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2017 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. That makes more sense on TW. I forgot he had hopeless as possible mafia earlier. The tmi point isnt good though. I know i would have made the same thing as town when you called Koshi mafia or 3rd party when i was mafia.
Maybe i am wrong and he is scum. I can agree to the FF thing. I mean that's not what happened at all. Below is what happened. Show nested quote +On August 17 2017 18:58 Holyflare wrote:
Tw's progression is:
Hopeless must be town for this post => votes hopeless => let me read hopeless' filter in 3 minutes => i like this post => hopeless is in a scum list
Does he talk about ff being his top town read anywhere? I can't remember much if anything.
Yeah okay it still makes sense. I am sorry i read the wholw thing in parts during work.
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I have a food break on ~30mins. O try to get on computer there.
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Could you do me a favor and point out wjere rhis conversion tging atarts?
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Okay so:
Again, why is Conversion interested in Rels here (over Onegu for example). I think ritoky makes a good point, same i thing i asked from Conversion and he misrepresented what happened (or didn't understand my question), and got mad???
In the next post he explains why, but i am not really sure if i buy the explanation. Also why am i town? If i was doing something so stupid earlier, why does he think i am town?
Regarding Rels, this is what i found earlier this morning:
in my head, the best possible action as town isn't to just say "lynch afkers," it's to find who the scummiest is on your list and pressure them to slip or keep posting until they look scummy
Okay, Conversion, for any reason, wants to pressure Rels to play. Why does he then say, if rels doesn't play we shouldn't be pressuring him, and instead calls out someone (hopeless) here for wanting to do what he earlier wanted to do -- voting or wanitng to lynch someone who doesn't play is usually the best course of action, if you otherwise can't convince them to play. i don't even know what the last "...keep posting until they look scummy" means? Can someone with better english explain that to me. Basically:
- Conversion wants Rels to play and pressures him (but not other people who don't want to play) -> hopeless wants to lynch Rels (because Rels is not playing) -> Conversion finds this course of action scummy??
The one thing i like is his point or geript. I don't know if it makes geript mafia but it is a decent point.
Then on me:
On August 16 2017 20:48 Conversion wrote:
also I really don't like that a train formed on rayn with barely any discussion
I'm taking my vote on him
Especially how Conversion acts towards me, i think he is just calling off people without really calling them out. I felt that way when people thought i am mafia, and he didn't take any part of that discussion, and "called me out" for something else. Especially for newer mafia players this is quite usual behavior, you get to have a reason to vote for someone but you didn't really call them scum, you just "pointed something out". Then he takes his vote off me. why? Because "too many people are voting for rayn"? Who were those people whose votes are inconsistent in his mind? I dont remember what was the votecount at that time, but like... It doesn't work that way because if i am mafia, even if there are 10 votes on me i can still easily be mafia, and the only reason he represents is that "this wagon formed too quickly". And yes i know townies do use that kinda shit logic too but the fact that he is clearly scared to sheep opinions and thinks he must always form his own (even when there is no reason to and it is perfectly fine to sheep someone) is more likely to come from mafia, that's what i think.
Fuck geript even said that lol  Double town.
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On August 17 2017 04:04 Rels wrote:lol I didn't think anything about any of FF posts. Then I read this very last one in his filter. It's pretty townie. Especially given than from my experience FF is a no-risk scum player => so if HF is town I dunno why he would risk making him mad with that post. Show nested quote +On August 17 2017 00:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm also becoming suspicious that HF and rayn are both mafia and hf is just trying to 'confirm' mafia rayn town.
Where did this tinfoil hat come from
On August 17 2017 04:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 05:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
I was about to say geript lol..
I'm voting jealous. I dont trust HF yet and cake just pulled some shit at the end of the day there.
I feel like having legit drawings was a requirement at this point. lul maybe TMI on HF being town
On August 17 2017 04:18 Rels wrote:
##Vote Hopeless1der
Dont really think he's scum, but more than rayn and FF for sure.
This dude is scum though.
Gives reasons why FF / hopeless are mafia -> says they are town.
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Well not really on FF but the post on FF doesn't make any sense at all.
I don't know what this makes him -> then he reads a post -> makes a conclusion FF is town because "if HF is town, then..".
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On August 15 2017 22:09 Conversion wrote:
my read on rayn is null b/c cop said give him some time
in a few hours during my lunch break he does not contribute anything I will push to lynch him b/c a player of his caliber should be able to do SOMETHING in a small amount of time he has
basically play better than me at the very least, which I can't say confidently he is doing
Like look at this. Then i am the worst lynch because "wagon formed too quickly"....
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On August 17 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think conversion's stance towards you is really thst scummy. You were confirmed town and everyone jumped on you for a reason that I'm still not sure about? They didn't even discuss about hopeless or ff, just voted you and afkd.
I know they did but if Conversion thinks i am mafia why should he care? Like i said there are probably 10 townies and 3 mafia in this game. Did his other scumreads jump on me?
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On August 16 2017 03:19 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2017 03:09 CopCake wrote:On August 16 2017 02:14 Conversion wrote:On August 16 2017 02:10 CopCake wrote:
That angry rayn is so town ._. But I am alone in that Can I get your thoughts on Rels? I guess this is the question I havent played with Rels in a looooooonnnnnggggg time, and I think it was only on voicemafia if I did. Last game he was scum and hided in a very friendly attitude and after night 1 with 3 townie killed he said "I feel depressed" and dissapeared. Apparently his meta is not to be here on day 1 but I wonder if he actually knows the game started because it has been more than 24 hrs he hasnt been here. Hell he could even forgot the game is here, I honestly doubt someone like Rels would ignore the game on purpouse as mafia because I consider him to be honorable regardles of aligment. Okay. since there are no modkills in this game, how do you propose we deal with someone like Rels? since he might be more town than not, should we just ignore him?
You lynch them. You definitely don't call people out for wanting to lynch them.
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On August 17 2017 22:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 17 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think conversion's stance towards you is really thst scummy. You were confirmed town and everyone jumped on you for a reason that I'm still not sure about? They didn't even discuss about hopeless or ff, just voted you and afkd. I know they did but if Conversion thinks i am mafia why should he care? Like i said there are probably 10 townies and 3 mafia in this game. Did his other scumreads jump on me? You just linked a post where he called you null? Does he say you're mafia?
Did he? not literally. But what do you think this line says then:
in a few hours during my lunch break he does not contribute anything I will push to lynch him b/c a player of his caliber should be able to do SOMETHING in a small amount of time he has
Did i? What do you think his conclusion should be? At the time, when he took his vote off he said NOTHING about any confirmed town thing, he just said "the wagon formed too quickly".
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