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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 03:47 GMT
#1507
On August 17 2017 12:40 CopCake wrote:
Oh yeah I know how I can clear myself, well rayn can and MAYBE damdred because he claimed I am a good mafia player and a good scum last game.

I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER put suspicious on my team mates.

NEVER

EVER.

I'd rather lynch myself than give up my team.

Only exception was with moosydoosy whatever his name was because he gave us (glowing bear and me) to the town so he would look "townie"

That game fucking pissed me.

You fucking called him town. You fucking "cleared him"

I'm done. Lynch TW, lynch Rels, lynch Cop. GG
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 04:01 GMT
#1515
On August 17 2017 12:50 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 12:33 geript wrote:
@Jealous
On August 17 2017 11:08 geript wrote:
Like you just gotta accept that HF is a liar regardless of his alignment. You have to read him on what he's trying to do; like what his goal this game is. Who he pushes is kinda relevant, but it's also what he lets go of.

QFT. Literally just ignore HF claiming a gun because it's totally irrelevant. Go do something useful.

Did you just quote yourself and QFT? Lol. There's a first for everything xD Not a dig on you or anything, just thought it was humorous.

I don't see how it is irrelevant. Can you explain how that could be the case?

Pretend for a second that HF is town. I guarantee you that in 100% of cases in that situation he will claim receiving a gun.
Pretend for a second that HF is scum. I guarantee you that in 100% of cases in that situation he will claim receiving a gun.

I assure you that while HF may have a gun, his claiming a gun has absolutely 0 impact on his alignment. He will claim a gun whether or not he receives said gun. He will claim it (especially after winning the election). That's just him. He has a mad compunction to claim a role (any role though usually cop) on D1. Any number of us can confirm this. Everyone has their own little idiosyncracies and that's his.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 04:14 GMT
#1517
On August 17 2017 13:10 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 13:01 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 12:50 Jealous wrote:
On August 17 2017 12:33 geript wrote:
@Jealous
On August 17 2017 11:08 geript wrote:
Like you just gotta accept that HF is a liar regardless of his alignment. You have to read him on what he's trying to do; like what his goal this game is. Who he pushes is kinda relevant, but it's also what he lets go of.

QFT. Literally just ignore HF claiming a gun because it's totally irrelevant. Go do something useful.

Did you just quote yourself and QFT? Lol. There's a first for everything xD Not a dig on you or anything, just thought it was humorous.

I don't see how it is irrelevant. Can you explain how that could be the case?

Pretend for a second that HF is town. I guarantee you that in 100% of cases in that situation he will claim receiving a gun.
Pretend for a second that HF is scum. I guarantee you that in 100% of cases in that situation he will claim receiving a gun.

I assure you that while HF may have a gun, his claiming a gun has absolutely 0 impact on his alignment. He will claim a gun whether or not he receives said gun. He will claim it (especially after winning the election). That's just him. He has a mad compunction to claim a role (any role though usually cop) on D1. Any number of us can confirm this. Everyone has their own little idiosyncracies and that's his.

I see but... wouldn't that be dumb of scum!HF? Or are you saying that because he does this so consistently, that we should just ignore it? In which case, why would anyone set such a precedent - just to have a better scum game in future games? That's deep.

Yes, he does it so consistently it should just be ignored. Can we move on? Like readin filters and talkin about things that matter.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 05:30 GMT
#1520
On August 17 2017 13:53 Jealous wrote:
Conclusion: I do agree with a lot of geript's analysis; I will have to revisit my H1 read to see how much I can agree with the universe that is being created as a result, if I understood it correctly. Perhaps geript can clarify for me if my analysis of her argument is correct. I did have a strong H1 town read, but that was quite some time ago; however, I don't recall seeing anything scummy from H1 recently.

In short: Potentially plausible, need more feedback to be sure and need to do more research in the morning to confirm.

I'm going to ignore the peripheral arguments and go straight to the meat. I think the argument is pretty straight forward and obvious, but since you may be town... Let me ask you this question. Let's presume that TW is town. Why would he lie about how much he's read? Like there are things you sometimes lie about as town, but for the most part as town you don't lie about anything. Town generally doesn't lie because it doesn't serve any useful purpose. More importantly, town doesn't lie about how much they have or haven't read; that actually hurts town's ability to scum hunt. The thing is if TW was town, he wouldn't lie about having read all of both filters. He wouldn't try to misrepresent how much he has done. So him lying about that itself is alignment indicative.

Like there are number of other spin off arguments that can support it, but they're all icing.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 06:43 GMT
#1527
On August 17 2017 15:32 Holyflare wrote:
Jesus christ why did leave this guy alive?

Is this like bizarro world? Like my case on TW is rock solid. Fuck it. Lynch them both. I don't care.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 06:57 GMT
#1532
On August 17 2017 15:49 Holyflare wrote:
Also jealous come on, another 50/50 post?

Yah it was eh. Idc atm. Cop's response was pretty meh too. Push my TW case through. Shoot Rayn. After that idk. Probably Rels. Maybe Ever. I kinda think Damdred is Town. I think Hopeless is Town just super unhelpful. As a matter of fact, don't lynch Hopeless.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 07:00 GMT
#1536
@Damdred. Make sure you explain your Ritoky read fully. He's gone mia and I cba to care about him right now.

As a reminder, shoot inactive fucks like Rels/Ritoky/Ever if they continue to be that way.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 08:17 GMT
#1548
On August 17 2017 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No. Tumblewood has no reason to lie there because as mafia, he can just choose not to. The only reason for him to lie, is if he makes up shit to put his vote on town instead of his scumbuddy. We all know this is not the case since ff flipped town.

Do you seriously think Tumble says hes gonna read filters, doeant read them, and puts down a vote with quoting some random post as mafia? When the alternative is he can just what he did after, that he thinks there is no right answer, and just place a vote. Do you think he doeant see or think he will get caught on what he did if he is mafia and the narrative others have given for his action?

Seriously, has everyone lost the ability to think lately? This is like the stupid case on skynx last game..

You're so absolutely fucking right. Mafia never spends time to talk about how they're trying to evaluate their vote. Never in a million years have mafia lied about reading the thread or what they've read of it just to sound active. Never does scum bring out an "oh this is kinda townie" while then putting the guy in the scummy group.

Night HF
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 17:27 GMT
#1789
On August 18 2017 00:26 Damdred wrote:
Like really this whole thing is idiotic and it would be better served looking elsewhere.

Like where ever since went. If jealous could be scum. If ritoky could be scum (it's possible)

Hey. Explain your ritoky read pls. <3
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 17:40 GMT
#1796
On August 18 2017 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
paint me a picture

And the hat comes off
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 17:42 GMT
#1798
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.

i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.

Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 17:46 GMT
#1802
On August 18 2017 02:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
paint me a picture

the fuck is this

I think that SL is Conversion or Jealous. Probably the latter.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 17:47 GMT
#1803
On August 18 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, i am mostly interested in your geript read (after you filter him) and your ES read. Also why do you think ritoky si town?

he has made quite a bit of very good analysis.

I agree. I had a bunch of very good analysis during D1 and N1. We should probably lynch the person I'm pushing.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 18:41 GMT
#1850
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 18:53 GMT
#1861
On August 18 2017 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 03:41 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.

Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.

No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


On August 18 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 02:42 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.

i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.

Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable

i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.

Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.

Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 18:56 GMT
#1862
Like no matter how important it is to discuss Ritoky, Rels, Cop, Damdred, Ever, etc. We still need to remember that TW is fucking scum and why. We need to make sure that we don't get swept up lynching maybes when we have guaranteed scum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 19:03 GMT
#1867
On August 18 2017 04:01 Damdred wrote:
Why you ignore me geript?

Sorry, I saw your post on ritoky and liked it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 19:16 GMT
#1876
On August 18 2017 04:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 03:53 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:41 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.

Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.

No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


On August 18 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:42 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.

i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.

Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable

i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.

Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.

Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.

  • i explicitly said i was still catching up (and i still haven't gotten to the middle pages between where i left off and page 80)
  • i did not say you are scummy. i said you are PoE, not that you are scummy. you will remain PoE until i read your filter, which i will do when i am at home at my pc. also i don't know what huge case you are referring to. (and my top townreads are strong. i reserve the right to shove it in your face postgame if i am right on all of those.)


so basically you have misrepresented me in every single thing you said. congrats.

TW: "Here's my updated reads"
Also TW: "I haven't finished catching up"

TW: "Puts X person in a list that contains all scum"
Also TW: "X person is not scummy"

The yo-yo is real
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 19:31 GMT
#1884
On August 18 2017 04:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 04:16 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 04:07 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:53 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:41 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.

I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.

What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
[quote]
So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels

So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.

I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.

Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.

Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.

No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


On August 18 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:42 geript wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels


can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.

i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.

Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable

i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.

Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.

Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.

  • i explicitly said i was still catching up (and i still haven't gotten to the middle pages between where i left off and page 80)
  • i did not say you are scummy. i said you are PoE, not that you are scummy. you will remain PoE until i read your filter, which i will do when i am at home at my pc. also i don't know what huge case you are referring to. (and my top townreads are strong. i reserve the right to shove it in your face postgame if i am right on all of those.)


so basically you have misrepresented me in every single thing you said. congrats.

TW: "Here's my updated reads"
Also TW: "I haven't finished catching up"

TW: "Puts X person in a list that contains all scum"
Also TW: "X person is not scummy"

The yo-yo is real

have you ever heard of process of elimination? it seems you have not, so let me break it down for you:
step 1: read the game thread and, when i feel like it, people's filters. post also.
step 2: when someone looks very townie, especially if they have looked that way for an extended period of time, eliminate them from the lynch pool.
step 3: as the game goes on, you may spot more very townie players, and eventually you will have a lynch pool where you can be reasonably confident in the success of a lynch from it, despite not having reasons that those players are mafia.

First, when I do a PoE and separate the groups into "town" and "contains the whole scum team," by definition you are calling the people in the second group scum. Sure there's probably 1-2 townies in that group, but again you're saying those people are likely scum.

Here's the important question: If you're town and haven't even caught up yet STILL, why are you even doing PoE reads or giving "updated reads" to begin with?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 17 2017 19:36 GMT
#1888
Like seriously if TW is town and hasn't caught back up to the thread, why is he making this post?

On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels




Since when does town think it is important to give an updated list of reads when he's 20+ pages behind on the thread? Since when does a townie find it more important to post about where he stands 20+ pages ago, than to actually read the fucking thread to figure out what if anything has changed in his read?



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