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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:32 GMT
#712
Ritoky isn't town? I have never called him town once this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:34 GMT
#714
Like your post is complete and utter shit. You complain about narratives and make a narrative.

My ritoky read progression is:

Ritoky looks angry and not playing the game => call ritoky mafia => ritoky makes ok post about tw but I don't see it => tw starts doing more of what ritoky says/ritoky looks better => ritoky doesn't push it => ritoky mentions lack of passion (hasn't had passion all game imo) => ritoky looks worse.

That's quite a simple progression. Nothing like your narrative suggests.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:39 GMT
#717
On August 15 2017 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like there are literally zero instances in this game where ritoky is "constantly paranoid with how he looks to other people".


Constantly paranoid... In the mafia qt.... About how he looks. That doesn't translate to you very well. I don't expect anyone to acknowledge it's correct. It's what I think. I've seen glimmers of ritoky but 50% of his filter is talking about people that mechanic talked and 30% about his work and 10-20 content or less.

I don't care if you like it or not. My thought progression on him is above. That's why he's at a big fat null right now. It's not a narrative it's an "i thought he looked good but he didn't follow through and made a paranoid looking post and didn't town read me like he always does" read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:42 GMT
#720
And do you know why I present the third random guy as an inactive guy?

BECAUSE THERE ARE NO MODKILLS FOR INACTIVITY
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:43 GMT
#721
On August 15 2017 22:40 CopCake wrote:
🤔 I was reading HF's filter (Just the first page) and reading your post and he said that the game is broken for town or too in favour for town. I would have posted that if I was you.

I didnt get to the "judges should nominate scummy people" I dont get it? He wants judges to give mafia bullets or vests or he wants judges to limit us to 3 suspects to lynch?

That is bullshit, someone said that the Judges we got this phase afk and etc and is so bullshit to nominate 3 mafia and then if mafia wins all town will blame the judges and not themselves for being bad at scumhunting.


I don't have a clue what you're saying. I thought the game was broken because we could keep the vests all game but you have to use them straight away. I also thought mafia had to pick within the 3 winners.

Now I know the actual setup then having everyone pick vests all the time is still the optimal setup.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:49 GMT
#725
Can someone else that's not me read this rayn post and talk about it please? Can you just confirm that he says that I think tumblewood and rayn are scummy and I do nothing to figure out other people but then he writes a wall of text about how my conversion post is ok and that my read on ritoky has changed and that I'm trying to figure out other people.

I'm not mad right?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:49 GMT
#727
On August 15 2017 22:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:40 CopCake wrote:
🤔 I was reading HF's filter (Just the first page) and reading your post and he said that the game is broken for town or too in favour for town. I would have posted that if I was you.

I didnt get to the "judges should nominate scummy people" I dont get it? He wants judges to give mafia bullets or vests or he wants judges to limit us to 3 suspects to lynch?

That is bullshit, someone said that the Judges we got this phase afk and etc and is so bullshit to nominate 3 mafia and then if mafia wins all town will blame the judges and not themselves for being bad at scumhunting.


I don't have a clue what you're saying. I thought the game was broken because we could keep the vests all game but you have to use them straight away. I also thought mafia had to pick within the 3 winners.

Now I know the actual setup then having everyone pick vests all the time is still the optimal setup.

Its not optimal its safest.


That sounds optimal to me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:51 GMT
#728
Like I just did an entire monologue a couple of pages back figuring out the game?

I'm not crazy, right?

Right???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:54 GMT
#733
On August 15 2017 22:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 22:51 Holyflare wrote:
Like I just did an entire monologue a couple of pages back figuring out the game?

I'm not crazy, right?

Right???

No, rayn's scum, you're fine bby


Thanks.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:54 GMT
#734
On August 15 2017 22:52 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 22:49 Conversion wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:42 Conversion wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2017 21:34 Conversion wrote:
On August 15 2017 16:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Conversion i am curious; why did you decide to "call me out" for making a read based on only couple of posts, and not anyone else who have done the same thing?



bc the only people who gave lists so far that I bothered paying attention to are you and hopeless

that's all

What was the list Hopeless gave?
Why weren't you interested in let's say Cake's read on me that i am mafia based on 2 posts?


On August 15 2017 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
welp lets get things off to a terrible start:

rayn - Townish
ritoky - null
geript - townish
damdred - scummish
tumblewood - scum
fecalfeast - scummish
conversion scummish
onegu - lurker
rels - lurker
hopeless - uhh..town?


hopeless caught my eye bc he was spamming the thread and I didn't like his posts

copcake's posts were irrelevant to me b/c I reserved the right to not make any judgment on you until you actually played the game

Hopeless gave that list after you called me out. How did you know about the list before he posted it as it is part of your reasoning now?
My read on him was posted: Aug 14 16:57 MSK
His list was posted: Aug 15 01:31 MSK

Why are you saying you treated me and him in the same way when you couldn't possibly have done so at the time?


when in the fuck did I call you out?

I asked you for clarification, then asked the thread about your meta

??????????????????


like you write a fucking essay on why HF is scum, passively insult every player in this game besides geript and Damdred, and now you think me asking you a question about how you "read" someone with only two posts is "calling you out"

jesus you and HF are gems no wonder you don't want to talk with him


Welcome to the town list.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 13:57 GMT
#735
On August 15 2017 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 22:32 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky isn't town? I have never called him town once this game.

Oh, then i misread your post and you just called ritoky not town for what he is town for.


This is a complete bamboozle by the way. I said welcome to the nominated townies list to ritoky and said he was towny. It's also in your post.

Caught out scummer. Top tier bamboozle.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:01 GMT
#737
Wait so now rayn scum reads my scum read but I'm mafia tooo? Wut.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:06 GMT
#743
On August 15 2017 23:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Wait so now rayn scum reads my scum read but I'm mafia tooo? Wut.

Actually you are scumreading my scumread and i am mafia too.
If you think that ALSO makes me mafia then you are mafia too, right?


Except you didn't say any shit about it until now and it's for inferior reasons about some shit list post statement thing?completely different tbh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:08 GMT
#746
On August 15 2017 23:05 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 22:54 Conversion wrote:
so by your logic your read should be fucking confidently and solid beyond all reason and doubt in your head.

100% is he scum or town


also answer this question thanks

@HF can you explain to me where you stated you meant ritoky was paranoid in QT? I can't find the quote in ur filter. was that in ur head?


I said he was looking a bit paranoid because of his lack of motivation post out of the blue. I implied in a qt. He's not going to say he's concerned with how he looks in a thread after all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:12 GMT
#749
On August 15 2017 22:42 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2017 21:34 Conversion wrote:
On August 15 2017 16:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Conversion i am curious; why did you decide to "call me out" for making a read based on only couple of posts, and not anyone else who have done the same thing?



bc the only people who gave lists so far that I bothered paying attention to are you and hopeless

that's all

What was the list Hopeless gave?
Why weren't you interested in let's say Cake's read on me that i am mafia based on 2 posts?


Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
welp lets get things off to a terrible start:

rayn - Townish
ritoky - null
geript - townish
damdred - scummish
tumblewood - scum
fecalfeast - scummish
conversion scummish
onegu - lurker
rels - lurker
hopeless - uhh..town?


hopeless caught my eye bc he was spamming the thread and I didn't like his posts

copcake's posts were irrelevant to me b/c I reserved the right to not make any judgment on you until you actually played the game


I see what rayn is saying btw.

Rayn calls out 2 post hopeless.
Conversion calls out rayn on this point.
Rayn asks why he didn't call anyone else out.
Conversion says because he's only read two list posts and links hopeless one.
Rayn says some nonsense about how conversion is scum because hopeless' post hadn't happened yet.

Thing is it did happen.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:14 GMT
#751
On August 15 2017 23:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 23:05 Conversion wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:54 Conversion wrote:
so by your logic your read should be fucking confidently and solid beyond all reason and doubt in your head.

100% is he scum or town


also answer this question thanks

@HF can you explain to me where you stated you meant ritoky was paranoid in QT? I can't find the quote in ur filter. was that in ur head?


I said he was looking a bit paranoid because of his lack of motivation post out of the blue. I implied in a qt. He's not going to say he's concerned with how he looks in a thread after all.

I'm sorry, what?


?

If I say ritoky is paranoid with how he looks it's from experience being in a mafia qt with him previously. It's a meta read. Ritoky is still null now because it's a minor point in the grand scheme of things.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:22 GMT
#760
On August 15 2017 23:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:42 Conversion wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2017 21:34 Conversion wrote:
On August 15 2017 16:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Conversion i am curious; why did you decide to "call me out" for making a read based on only couple of posts, and not anyone else who have done the same thing?



bc the only people who gave lists so far that I bothered paying attention to are you and hopeless

that's all

What was the list Hopeless gave?
Why weren't you interested in let's say Cake's read on me that i am mafia based on 2 posts?


On August 15 2017 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
welp lets get things off to a terrible start:

rayn - Townish
ritoky - null
geript - townish
damdred - scummish
tumblewood - scum
fecalfeast - scummish
conversion scummish
onegu - lurker
rels - lurker
hopeless - uhh..town?


hopeless caught my eye bc he was spamming the thread and I didn't like his posts

copcake's posts were irrelevant to me b/c I reserved the right to not make any judgment on you until you actually played the game


I see what rayn is saying btw.

Rayn calls out 2 post hopeless.
Conversion calls out rayn on this point.
Rayn asks why he didn't call anyone else out.
Conversion says because he's only read two list posts and links hopeless one.
Rayn says some nonsense about how conversion is scum because hopeless' post hadn't happened yet.

Thing is it did happen.

How did rayn have a read on me from literally 1 post though.


Because he's mafia lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:27 GMT
#763
I have in no way made this game unplayable for you because I simply asked you a basic question about a read you made that didn't add up for me and you treated me with hostility instead of pandering to me and being nice and answering it.

You made this game unplayable for yourself to be honest. Everyone else quite easily answers the questions I throw at them.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:30 GMT
#766
You could have said "why does me reading copcake null have anything to do with Tumblewood?" or "the way he was discussing it looked like he should come to a conclusion but he didn't".

That's like 8 words to dispel everything and you instead spent about 1000 on a waste of time case on me, making yourself annoyed(?) with me and afking? Telling me I'm twisting words.

It was pretty simple and you dragged it down. Last game you quite easily answered questions like that. I remember actually you had the exact same argument with someone last game where we were both town and you made that simple statement.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 15 2017 14:37 GMT
#770
On August 15 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
You could have said "why does me reading copcake null have anything to do with Tumblewood?" or "the way he was discussing it looked like he should come to a conclusion but he didn't".

That's like 8 words to dispel everything and you instead spent about 1000 on a waste of time case on me, making yourself annoyed(?) with me and afking? Telling me I'm twisting words.

It was pretty simple and you dragged it down. Last game you quite easily answered questions like that. I remember actually you had the exact same argument with someone last game where we were both town and you made that simple statement.


Actually yes. Skynx made a case on you in generic 3 for these exact same reasons. He was town, you called him town even though you didn't agree with the logic. I agreed with skynx in that game too and you just shrugged it off. Completely out of character with your behaviour here.
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