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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:07 GMT
#3067
On August 21 2017 23:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 23:33 CopCake wrote:
I am tired of answering the same thing over and over.



Quote me your answer then please.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:22 GMT
#3072
I think this is a completely different situation copcake. I am clearly a mafia read of yours but you have no drive to get me lynched whatsoever. Your tactic is to berate anyone that has any kind of logic that I'm town but do absolutely nothing to prove why my behaviour is mafia.

I think your reads don't actually exist. You've repeatedly been asked to provide evidence as to why I'm mafia but have failed on several occasions. Your logic that you used before is a double standard that you didn't apply to eversince.

You have used me being on fecalfeast as evidence to why I am mafia and a bad town leader but not once delved into my motivation or even asked me why I was on him. Nor have you stated that I didn't want to lynch any of them. You're simply not interested in discovering whether I am mafia or not or questioning my thought processes.

You flipped out on me after rels was lynched but rels was a perfectly fine lynch. Nothing he said actually said anything at all and if I had the chance again I'd lynch him all over again.

I am just going to say it, I think you're mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#3077
And like I said. What are your REASONS that I am mafia?? I don't care one bit about you disproving why I'm town but you haven't once stated WHY I am mafia. You just keep saying I am.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#3079
On August 22 2017 00:38 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads?

If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too.

i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day.


Because whenever I see you make a read it's based off dumb crap but it's resolute and you don't waiver on it. This uncertainty bugs me a lot.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:09 GMT
#3083
On August 22 2017 00:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 22 2017 00:38 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads?

If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too.

i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day.


Because whenever I see you make a read it's based off dumb crap but it's resolute and you don't waiver on it. This uncertainty bugs me a lot.

i haven't at any point acted too certain about my scumreads. except at eod2 when i really was that confident on you, and said so. and even if you don't understand them, i think my townreads are very good, and that is reflected too.


I mean that's my point. I'm used to you, as town, just making bold statements declaring someone an alignment. Here it's naybes and ifs ans buts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:17 GMT
#3084
On August 22 2017 00:41 CopCake wrote:
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On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
And like I said. What are your REASONS that I am mafia?? I don't care one bit about you disproving why I'm town but you haven't once stated WHY I am mafia. You just keep saying I am.


Your obsesion for trying to clear yourself, lying for the rayn mod cleared, overall town not winning atm. I had you in a high spot as a scumhunter.


I'm not trying to clear myself, I'm trying to get reads off of other people since I'm correct and they're wrong.

When on earth did I lie about rayn being mod confirmed? I genuinely believed it at the time.

Town not winning? No shit. We've had 1 cycle of all likely town people that nobody wanted and another that could ALSO be all town. None of those lynches are what I wanted as a primary lynch and this is why the game is shit.

I would have lynched tw day one because that clears up at least two people's alignments (yours and rayn's). I would have used that info to determine the rest of the town's motives because then hopeless wouldn't be able to fall back on that being his only read, geript too.

But no, we're stuck here in this shitty endless loop where the actual lynch people wanted hasn't been up for two cycles.

I don't work on imperfect information. My skill as a town player is working on lynch information and nks that we just don't have. (nks suggest mafia team that doesn't know me).

None of these are actually reasons to scum read anybody, let alone only be "15% wrong".

I think this read is extremely fabricated.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:25 GMT
#3085
I mean it's just flat out stupidity to think that as mafia anyone would extend their win by a whole extra cycle just because. I fucking hate playing as mafia (even though I'm good at it). I don't want to be in this game any longer than I have to.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:41 GMT
#3090
Geript been pretty towny and has reads and hasn't died for two cycles. They tried to shoot me last night which means geript isn't a threat to them or is mafia.

I chooose possibly mafia but maybe not :D I can't tell until tw dies.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:44 GMT
#3092
If geript is also mafia I trust him to do some bs sneaky play like "i saved hf" and there be no nk or some shit. So conversion is a much more basic and straightforward approach. He saves me and then we see if there's a nk on him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:45 GMT
#3093
On August 22 2017 02:43 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 02:41 Holyflare wrote:
Geript been pretty towny and has reads and hasn't died for two cycles. They tried to shoot me last night which means geript isn't a threat to them or is mafia.

I chooose possibly mafia but maybe not :D I can't tell until tw dies.

So if TW is scum, I'm Town? And vice Versa? i really don't get why you're even trying to push that TW is my only read.


It's probably not but it's all anyone is really pushing so it's all I remember.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:47 GMT
#3096
And no that's not strictly what I think that if he's town you're mafia but it's what you and hopeless do after him flipping that determines what you are.

If he's mafia you two are likely town though and so are rayn and cake.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:47 GMT
#3098
On August 22 2017 02:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
If geript is also mafia I trust him to do some bs sneaky play like "i saved hf" and there be no nk or some shit. So conversion is a much more basic and straightforward approach. He saves me and then we see if there's a nk on him

And the truth comes out... you really just want me to die so things are clear.


No i just want tw to be killed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 17:51 GMT
#3099
On August 22 2017 02:47 geript wrote:
Like, you get bitchy about people making that same argument against you. If you want to bitch, the read my filter. If I'm scum, it's obvious.


I already said you're towny? Don't see the problem. Also those arguments are different because damdred died and I got shot this game. Which is bizarre land.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 18:01 GMT
#3103
I dunno what to tell you. I'm voting for what I think is best and will give us the most information.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 18:26 GMT
#3110
^ that's my feeling don't steal it conversion
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 18:36 GMT
#3114
Me dying makes you learn absolutely nothing.

Me living generates endless discussion.

Have you seen threads after I die? They vanish from existence when nobody talks.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 18:38 GMT
#3115
I don't even think anything I've done this game has been mafia orientated one bit. All I wanted with the rels lynch was that mofo to actually play the game and he did shit all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 18:43 GMT
#3122
There's only two people in this game that think me dying would clear things up and one of them is mafia maybe even two
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 18:44 GMT
#3124
On August 22 2017 03:43 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
I don't even think anything I've done this game has been mafia orientated one bit. All I wanted with the rels lynch was that mofo to actually play the game and he did shit all.

pls
i think you qualify for mafia mvp when you push cases that people don't look suspicious sheeping onto two townies, all game. and if i recall, that was not your approach to the rels lynch at all.


What cases have I pushed onto two townies?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 18:49 GMT
#3129
On August 22 2017 03:47 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
On August 22 2017 03:43 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 22 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
I don't even think anything I've done this game has been mafia orientated one bit. All I wanted with the rels lynch was that mofo to actually play the game and he did shit all.

pls
i think you qualify for mafia mvp when you push cases that people don't look suspicious sheeping onto two townies, all game. and if i recall, that was not your approach to the rels lynch at all.


What cases have I pushed onto two townies?

hello, rels and me


Oh funny joke.
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