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Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 13:50 GMT
#3571
well thanks for hosting.
10/10 game, would replace into that again.

*cough* okay more serious like:
as i said in scum qt: setup was really really dependant on the judges being good and a lack of interaction with them can make it really hard/frustrating for either town and/or scum. def a cool idea though.

a bit sad about the ragey posts, there were a few in there that were really bad.
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Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 13:53 GMT
#3573
On August 22 2017 22:40 rsoultin wrote:
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On August 22 2017 22:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 22 2017 22:29 rsoultin wrote:
On August 22 2017 22:25 Conversion wrote:
let me first say:

I am sorry rayn for raging at you. I haven't been great personally and I took that out on you calling everyone shit, and pushed it too far.

On August 22 2017 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 22 2017 21:24 Conversion wrote:
duly noted btw Koshi, on your big post calling me trash


Meh don't take it personal. I call everybody that once in a while.


I was pissed off with the fact I knew rayn was mafia and was pretty sure 1 out of hopeless and fefe were mafia. And then there were people calling the 3 picks bad.

1/3 was pretty ok for a list pre flip.

We made a mistake thinking fefe vs h1 was TvM



oh I'm not taking it personally!! I think I have a lot to improve on (especially with my raging this game). I think I was just frustrated because in a normal game I could read your motivation for putting people up for lynch, but since I couldn't, I was lost. I couldn't think of why (until the geript/disinfo/rayn lynch pool) the pool was what it was

stuff to learn in trying to figure out the judges instead of being mad about it, right?

EDIT: also thank you hosts for being patient with me even though I took it too far this game. I'll probably cool off for a bit before getting myself into a mafia game next time!


Well, this is why we can't keep judges separate from the thread entirely if we try a setup like this again. Damdred's idea may just be the best one. Make everyone a player and judges pick pools for power-ups, not lynches.

The judges were awesome this game. Great reads compared to their town counterparts, very active (other than Night 2 which was weekend). And players presumed they must be afk, or mafia was picking pools, because the reads didn't line up with theirs. Eh. I see no way around that presumption without interaction, and frustration on all sides, unfortunately

Judges gave us a free carry. If mafia tried to play that through I think they stood a chance. I wasnt going to lynch geript for days.


yeeeeaahhh...we made a mistake. namely, we were dealing with a separate issue when hf asked about rb notification on the shot, and did not have the context for hf's question. the concession felt highly emotional to me on the back of that announcement in-thread

i by no means think that there was any form of inevitability to the scum loss this game. reads change. who assumes that the lynch pool was all mafia anyway? one more mislynch and judges are out and town loses lynching tumble because only the judges had a good read on him. but i understand the reaction to the rb notification

*in b4 geript/rayn come back with how imbalanced the game was lol >> i agree we could have balanced it better but no, i don't think the setup was the reason for your loss, or the reason for the bad position some of you were in

onegu/eversince did nothing for their slot
rayn got caught out early. not setup related at all
both rayn and geript showed major face on d2...ritoky's analysis was sexy

that's gameplay, not setup. the setup probably didn't help...but i wouldn't blame it entirely on that

oh fml. i did forget that the judges would be gone in lylo/mylo/whatevs.
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Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 14:24 GMT
#3585
On August 22 2017 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 22 2017 22:19 rsoultin wrote:
also, apologies for not cracking down on the "mod said x" going on in the thread

i personally don't give a flying fuck about the normal things people say 'mod-confirms' anyone. if someone's being a shithead to scum rayn, i'm not going to let that continue just because he's scum. if someone tells me 'yes, i'm working extra hours and i need to lie to my gf and that's awkward for me but the real reason i want to replace out is people are scumreading me for the wrong reasons when i'm scum', yes, i'll tell them tough titty. obviously we didn't just tell rayn to suck it up, but no, that will never be a suitable replacement excuse for me

and ultimately i don't care if someone says 'the host told me x' when i'm playing in a game; of course they can be lying or leveraging it. but because so many in the community here seem to, we should have cracked down on that in thread. instead, rayn used it and we didn't say anything. then eversince abused it. then cake used it. so, lesson learned. much as i think it's dumb for people to think i'm going to modkill someone for mentioning my name in thread, it was becoming disruptive to the game and should have been stopped. apologies

Did you even read what i wrote to you on skype?

Alright, it is good to know telling someone to go choke on bag of dicks or burn and die is alright and you shouldnt get upset about it. I will remember that next time.

i was super surprised there was no modkill for that post.
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Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 14:59 GMT
#3593
dunno i legit didnt like tw d1 or the first part of d1 or sonething kike this and i thonk hf had good points on that.

he got way better later in the game though i have to admit/agree to that.

he is kinda hard to interact with though, cause he kinda just posts his reads and gtfos then.

kinda wish i could play a bit more like him, but i feel i need to validate/confirm my reads by bouncing them off other ppl, because i dont trust myself that much. or sonething like that xD
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Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 21:44 GMT
#3648
hf is one of the few ppl i often think "wow he is having fun this game!"
while i go all freaked and stressed out.
though when i think he is having _too_ much fun i am getting massive paranoia...
cause of that koshi/hf/palmar scum game...

=D
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Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 22:42 GMT
#3651
i dont mind being scum. though i go with the flow too much and late game i run into zhe prob of havong a hard time conjuring up fake scum reads.

though i guess i also have some probs wuth my town game that make it harder to fake stuff as scum.

and i really need zo stop being a huge effort monster as either alignment, cause that burns me out fairly hard since i alsi work nowadays as either alignment.

kinda miss my student life
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