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On August 17 2017 00:35 Conversion wrote:my view on cop Show nested quote +On August 16 2017 04:48 Conversion wrote:On August 16 2017 04:45 Damdred wrote: What did you figure out conversion from questioning cake? honestly when cake answers my questions the play itself seems fine everything outside of it is confusing me though (like I never called her mafia, never insinuated it, never directly stated it). the only two people I ever remotely called scum were HF and hopeless, and I pushed rayn pretty hard after I came back and dropped that the logical disconnect && bad memory seems like a byproduct of being at work and not communicating exactly what she(?) tries to mean. that doesn't seem like a scum play? she also did this a bit in CCCP more town than not. I was meh about her answer on Rels, but I don't disagree with it her forgetting and sort of zoning in and out on points is exactly what she did in CCCP and she flipped town. she even misread her role PM and though we killed off a cop with a learn role mechanic. I don't really see her being scum, and if she is, she's doing way more than lurkers + FF because she bothered to actually answer my questions
Here he is saying Stuff that makes me look town then...
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On August 17 2017 00:40 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2017 00:39 Jealous wrote: Quick catch-up post:
1. @conversion: Cop couldn't be in the lynch pool, please familiarize yourself with the game because this was a major point in the early hours of phase 1 to the point where Artanis had to step in.
2. @HF: Looking at your progression throughout the game through memory, it looks a lot like this: spend the majority of your time antagonizing rayn which becomes the main topic of conversation for many hours and gets heated and likely contributed to him being in the lynch pool, throw in some okayish reads on other people but don't discuss them much (until recently), then claim to have vig shot and to have shot rayn while also claiming that he is townlock which effectively "made him quit" and ushered in a decent period of silence from everyone, then come back and judge people for still voting for rayn. There are different ways to interpret this:
1. That you were in fact in the heat of the moment and kicked in the door guns blazing and have cooled off, and that Artanis' post does in your mind town lock rayn, and that you genuinely do think the vote should be on one of FF/H1.
2. You almost singlehandedly sparked into motion a series of events which led to approximately 36 hours of almost no one doing anything not - rayn related, or at least not close to what it would be if you hadn't launched your endless assault. Then you tell people to not vote rayn.
I can see 1. I can also kinda see 2, but if the ends is confirming one town (in your mind) and simultaneously killing their motivation to play, I don't know how much I like that. My wariness is rising and I'm not going to take my vote off rayn just because you said so. I want to see this chapter closed and see what the outcome is without a doubt so that there are no lingering questions. It would be a marvelous scum performance if it was MvM, perhaps overplayed but I can't let the possibility of that go. Ultimately, while I don't think the judges are infallible, they did nominate rayn so as you said earlier, I feel justified.
Also, heavy misrepresentation on your part when you say I have all 50/50 reads. I said that H1 and geript are hard town for me. I said that Damdred is scum lean. I said that rayn townlean. Please no misrep. Also curious how I moved down your list in towniness with no input on my part, after you said that my vote for you was the "towniest thing ever" but I can understand the wifom involved in that as well (I was curious why no one other than you said anything about it and you viewed it so purely positively... that's a topic for another discussion. For the record I just couldn't risk it going to CopCake).
3.@geript: Thank you! wut I was saying they could have left cop not as a winner and put her in the pool. No need to spout mechanics arguments when it was overall frustration at the current pool
I should be lynched? @_@ ???
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On August 17 2017 00:44 Conversion wrote: my argument against the pool is that we have NO way to pressure people who are playing bad/inactive if the judges don't deem them scummy enough to put in the pool
you decided to raise a counterpoint saying cop couldn't have been in the pool due to mechanics
we're on different pages here I think
This kinda explains but suspicious
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On August 17 2017 21:59 Conversion wrote: anyways I woke up late and am rushing to work. caught up on the thread
I'll filter dive/make bigger posts later but I don't like Jealous making a big post of nothing on HF's hypothetical gun
still don't like Rels and honestly think he should be lynched/vig'd just from his inactivity alone
getting weird vibes about Eversince (stronger than what I found scummy about hopeless)
hopeless still AFKing
You voted FF but you say this shit?
Stronger than Hopeless? hopeless yout top tier read and still voted FF? Because afking and hopeless did/is doing the same? What is this?
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On August 18 2017 10:48 Conversion wrote: I mean my scum reads are rels/tw/jealous + maybe hopeless or ever
like 3 of them are afk at a given time so I can't even tell how to proceed
Idk, here it looks you are trying to satisfy two theories (case against jelaous and case against tw and afk rels) to satisfy the town that you are doing something.
Suddenly hopeless is not top tier scum
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On August 19 2017 06:23 Conversion wrote: with that said he's still playing the game somewhat so I'm less inclined to lynch him over Rels or ritoky in this exact moment Jelaous is part of your top scum but suddenly Ritoki is super top tier scum? What is this? Lynch the inactive?
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On August 19 2017 23:13 Conversion wrote: I'm just gonna scumpile Jealous and move on
geript can you explain to me why you were so adamant on defending Jealous, even to the point of replying to my point where I said we can agree to disagree and calling me out saying Rels/ritoky is a better lynch, even though I said that earlier? before I even pushed Jealous? So far here mate, you never pushed Jelaous, you found him scum yet you forever claimed you would vote ritoki/rels over him.
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Conclusion: Conversion is mafia
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Clear town never lynch:
Cake, Ritoki, TW, Ever
Probably town:
Geript
The rest are scum, I need to clear my head.
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1. Raynpelikoneet 3. geript 6. Jealous 8. Holyflare 11. Conversion 16. Hopeless
Mafia is here but is still 3v3
Conversion is so fucking scum, he is good with words and his post look so polite but his actions dont match his words it annoys me so much.
I think there is a strong mafia which is either HF or Rayn, COULD be Geript who smartouted them, but definetly there is a super top tier mafia, a mastermind, I havent had the privilege to play with the others (I know I played last game bt the only new people I remember is beentheredonethat, ruxxar and tiktok)
Damdred's dead fits Rayn's scum agenda. Could also fit HF. But Raynscum makes sense with killing Damdred and focusing on me so much.
Hopeless actions are annoying (I am annoying too I know) I feel like I have to read his filter but from super nice he became an evil machine.
Thinking in a Jelaous/Hopeless/Geript is possible but Geript it the clearest of all these 6 people.
Jelaous/Hopeless/Conversion make sense, but that would also mean the JelaousvsConversion was staged.
I dont wanna think Rayn got outsmarted, yet again Rayn is super good at scumhunting but he hasnt done it here. I have thins thing that if Rayn doesnt die in two nights he is completely mafia. Have this in mind.
Holyflare is annoying as fuck and is too arrogant, Idk if he is bad town or just straight mafia, the rayn/hf team makes sense. A LOT.
I could see "TownclearedHF" saying "I got a greencheck on rayn lol" remember everyone, HF is NOT cleared by any means by game actions like giving a green check or havent been blocked. Remember mafia can also send a no kill and pretend that it was the vest in case that way they want to clear HF. It also annoys me how he is like "the judges are dumb" to "they judges picked me twice I am so town" that is bullshit.
Pressure this 6, you all have power, you dont have to wait and be passive.
Judges give a signal of what you think with your next top super town players.
I am tired and I also feel dumb for putting too much effort.
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On August 20 2017 14:26 Conversion wrote:in what world am I ever mafia with Jealous? do you really think I'd cause that big of a scene with him as an act between us to hide the fact that we're both mafia? and suddenly drop the act so Jealous all of a sudden looks suspicious of bussing me? so is Jealous town all of a sudden, or are you seriously not counting that possibility? so is Jealous a town read for you now?
Read post above.
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On August 20 2017 14:28 Conversion wrote: the fact that you think both Jealous and I are dumb enough to think that fight would ever pass anyone's eyes as a nonstaged fight is actually insulting
also I am not "polite" ? I literally raged at rayn and jealous, how does that make me polite and good with my words?
Why didnt you vote jelaous? Why did you went with rels? Why did you find ritoki mafia? You never played with the idea that town could be afking for real?
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Who are mafia to you and why?
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Conversion Ritoki was never town to you...
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On August 20 2017 14:56 geript wrote: I'm curious Cop, why do you have ritoky as Town?
Read his filter, so clear, pure, lineal, there is no shade, no secretive, no mistakes, you know I had him as top mafia but reading his posts all in one line was... Wow.
I also found out he is a nurse and a dad and explains his change of moods and afkings, also when we talked about the HF mafia scenario.
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On August 20 2017 15:21 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2017 15:05 CopCake wrote:On August 20 2017 14:56 geript wrote: I'm curious Cop, why do you have ritoky as Town? Read his filter, so clear, pure, lineal, there is no shade, no secretive, no mistakes, you know I had him as top mafia but reading his posts all in one line was... Wow. I also found out he is a nurse and a dad and explains his change of moods and afkings, also when we talked about the HF mafia scenario. I don't disagree with you that he's town; I disagree with your reasons (kinda). Considering HF claimed a green check on him, I just was curious as to how you incorporated (or didn't) those two.
I said Ritoki was town before HF claimed "Green check" and also worked on the scenario how that doesnt clear HF as town becuae the judges never know what the winner pick and is so easy for mafia to claim a green check on town to pocket them.
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I am not posting anymore. I am done with both of you. "I am being civil" my ass, you two can suck it. All game is insult after insult after insult.
Ps. Ever needed to pick between rit/rels/jelaous and also I doubt would have said how HF townreaded/confirmed/explained Rayn being town if he was mafia.
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JUDGES NEVER GIVE A GUN TO HF
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On August 21 2017 01:51 geript wrote: I like ritoky's posts and reads on D2. The only possible scum team for HF imo is HF+Rayn+Ritoky. While the green check on ritoky is mostly free if Jealous + Rels are town (as I don't think ritoky has any reasonable chance of getting lynched there); I don't see a world where HF greenchecks ritoky and mod-confirms Rayn when he's scum and they aren't partners. HF might mod-confirm town!Rayn as scum to prevent having to go through the backlash of lynching town!Rayn when he's OGI, that seems less likely than HF just powering through. Plus, HF 100% shoots mod-confirmed Rayn if HF is scum and Rayn isn't.
I like how ritoky gets to "all 3 lynch candidates are town" on D2. I'm kinda biased because I already have a reasons to think Jealous is town (which are kinda shared).
That leaves us with: 1. Raynpelikoneet 5. Tumblewood 9. Copcake 11. Conversion 13. Onegu replaced by Eversince
This is not true, as mafia you can pretend to have a green check on a town just to fake you got cop and not a role block.
Is this so hard to understand?
Should I go spanish?
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It could be HF+Rayn+someone else
Like, you seriously think that "green check" is the only thing that clears HF's horrible performance?
Ofc I get this because i am town, because how rels turned out, ff turned out, mod confirming rayn, etc. HF had done several bad things, and you want me to trust that?
Nope.
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You faked a rusian disease last game.
NOT
TRUSTING YOU
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