[T] MS Paint-Off Mafia - Page 20

On August 20 2017 07:16 ritoky wrote:
scenario 1) jealous gives the PR to you because handing it to HF is worst case scenario.

scenario 2) they can't be mafia together because HF fake greens jealous to exempt him from the pool instead of me.

On August 15 2017 17:20 Holyflare wrote:
And it also implies koshi/vivax/Superbia actually care about being judges.

On August 20 2017 07:53 Holyflare wrote:
I mean all you're doing is yelling loud noises and trying to discredit me because I'm a victim of judges picking a bad set of three people that cycle.

If you don't like a specific read then fair enough you can talk about why you don't like that read but the only purpose you're serving now is mafia agenda to discredit my character based on falsified scenarios instead of discrediting my actual scum hunting theories.

On August 20 2017 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
Perhaps if it's any semblance of a coherent scum read then I'll acknowledge it. Until then you should interact with me about my scum reads rather than fictitious scenarios you are trying to paint.

It's really hard holding back from calling you Mafia for your recent posting spree.

On August 20 2017 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't failed anything? I don't get to pick who we lynch.

On August 20 2017 08:06 Holyflare wrote:
You mean I don't make a list with my scum reads and town reads repeatedly throughout the game and ask for Tumblewood to be put into the lynch and write a slam dunk case on him and he doesn't get put in any of the lynches?

Really copcake? Have you read this same game?

On August 20 2017 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
Like I'm REALLY trying to be civil here. I'm trying to determine people's motives post lynch and you are trying your damned hardest to derail any sense in this game and discredit me as much as possible.

On August 16 2017 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
Like when the fuck did mafia people get so thin skinned? I hate this shit. It makes me not want to play. I don't want to baby a person because they can't handle a basic accusatory question or interrogation. That's literally the fucking game. Grow up people. Stop shining.

On August 17 2017 02:42 Eversince wrote:
Generally speaking I think:

Probably town-
Jealous: The paintings don't bother me. Simple enough to follow for rough ideas. And while I wish it didn't take as long for him to elaborate some thoughts in clearer words he eventually does.
Geript: Aside from the terrible early setup talk crap, I've liked his train of thought throughout the entire game.

Slightly town-
Copcake: I thought the early stuff was ok if some of it was weak. Kind of fell off after nominations, but I can totally understand getting frustrated and unmotivated when people aren't listening to you. Despite the meh feeling I've had in the second half of my read today as long as she'll just says her piece, ignore the antagonist (This should be a thing more people do), move onto the better things (Like finding mafia! Flesh out those HF catches maby?) I don't have any real issues with her atm.
Conversion: I don't remember a whole lot of his early play but reading today doesn't seem like he's pushing an agenda. Short of maby border-line 'don't worry about me, i'm just trying to be super reserved' But more in a way that shows he's trying to use critical thinking to re-evaluate his reads rather than just not having them. Could be just a front to take non-committal stances but I don't think so.

Null-
Rayn: Hasn't been particularly useful. I have to admit that at some point I started skimming through some of the repeated bulk/ rage of his points. The biggest problem I have is that there isn't any town motivation behind rage-quitting the game but again Re: Copcake- I not only understand people getting frustrated and unmotivated, I expect it the temper out of Rayn. Which leaves me on trying to decide on which side of my brain to listen to "The bulk of this is an emotional, hard to read rant that took up way more space than i feel like it should of or needed to because town Rayn got triggered" ->"mafia Rayn wanted to shit up the thread and was handed the opportunity on a golden platter."
HF: I generally liked his train of thought. Same problem as with Rayn though, I skimmed some bulk/ antagonistic points. I really think the mod confirming of Rayn is ridiculous because Rayn didn't actually rage quit so he was never playing against win con. Just as much as him claiming to have shot in his mind confirmed town isn't playing against his wincon because we don't know Rayn's alignment.
Rels: Completely afk. He's known for doing nothing D1, not in the lynch pool, I don't see much point in trying to weigh out this read anymore than personal bias telling me he did this exact same afk first cycle the last game I played with him.

To be continued~ I figure I post this much now, I didn't disappear promise! I'm just trying to go through filters as well!
Will continue with rest in a few.

On August 17 2017 04:49 Eversince wrote:
##Vote: FecalFeast

I feel better this way. I can vote with my town reads. =D

On August 17 2017 02:42 Eversince wrote:
Generally speaking I think:

Probably town-
Jealous: The paintings don't bother me. Simple enough to follow for rough ideas. And while I wish it didn't take as long for him to elaborate some thoughts in clearer words he eventually does.
Geript: Aside from the terrible early setup talk crap, I've liked his train of thought throughout the entire game.

Slightly town-
Copcake: I thought the early stuff was ok if some of it was weak. Kind of fell off after nominations, but I can totally understand getting frustrated and unmotivated when people aren't listening to you. Despite the meh feeling I've had in the second half of my read today as long as she'll just says her piece, ignore the antagonist (This should be a thing more people do), move onto the better things (Like finding mafia! Flesh out those HF catches maby?) I don't have any real issues with her atm.
Conversion: I don't remember a whole lot of his early play but reading today doesn't seem like he's pushing an agenda. Short of maby border-line 'don't worry about me, i'm just trying to be super reserved' But more in a way that shows he's trying to use critical thinking to re-evaluate his reads rather than just not having them. Could be just a front to take non-committal stances but I don't think so.

Null-
Rayn: Hasn't been particularly useful. I have to admit that at some point I started skimming through some of the repeated bulk/ rage of his points. The biggest problem I have is that there isn't any town motivation behind rage-quitting the game but again Re: Copcake- I not only understand people getting frustrated and unmotivated, I expect it the temper out of Rayn. Which leaves me on trying to decide on which side of my brain to listen to "The bulk of this is an emotional, hard to read rant that took up way more space than i feel like it should of or needed to because town Rayn got triggered" ->"mafia Rayn wanted to shit up the thread and was handed the opportunity on a golden platter."
HF: I generally liked his train of thought. Same problem as with Rayn though, I skimmed some bulk/ antagonistic points. I really think the mod confirming of Rayn is ridiculous because Rayn didn't actually rage quit so he was never playing against win con. Just as much as him claiming to have shot in his mind confirmed town isn't playing against his wincon because we don't know Rayn's alignment.
Rels: Completely afk. He's known for doing nothing D1, not in the lynch pool, I don't see much point in trying to weigh out this read anymore than personal bias telling me he did this exact same afk first cycle the last game I played with him.

To be continued~ I figure I post this much now, I didn't disappear promise! I'm just trying to go through filters as well!
Will continue with rest in a few.

On August 18 2017 02:01 Eversince wrote:
@Damd,

New mess that will escalate way past in the time I write this post but w/e.

Rels: He can go to slightly mafia. I gave him a free pass because of last game. He has proven to be staying at least up to date with the thread though so why is he just lurking? Using a known townie playstyle as town to fuck off and afk D1 I can accept. Trash I think but fine. But using a townie playstyle to coast by lurking is super dirty. Like usually he's mia for a long time, comes back with a long winded short vr of the entire player list. He obviously could of done that by now but he hasn't.

CC: Moved to null. Snippy attitude is just preventing her from being productive. She seems standoffish. I don't see a reason for it. Not lynch material but I'm hoping for more.

TW: Not going to reiterate other peoples words. They said them. I agree with them. Would lynch.

HF: Can go to slightly town. Outside of my skeptical bias I think his abrasive playstyle is just that. Regardless of his alignment. And aside from the early mess he has been mostly on point. Could be good mafia play but right now there is just a lot of other options I'd put ahead of him. So for my own piece of mind I'm going to do this for now so I can worry on other things.

Jealous: He seems kind of lost atm? I don't like the HF speculation because I find it kind of pointless. I'm still think he's probably town though. Why would he put in the work to derail any progress on purpose as mafia? I'll keep it in mind but as long as he gets back on track D2 no worries.

Hope: I don't think he's done much other than agree with TW case, call for a gun, and now this big nasty waste of 4-5 pg of space dominated by a pointless mechanics discussion. I think this whole thing is fishy as fuck considering "I can sort of accept that, but your not out of you" so take your read and drop it. But that's not what we got at all.

Rayn: I liked Rayn catching up but this second fight about nothing makes me super nervous. #2 bout that I personally think is an entirely pointless agrument to be dragging out. but it being night I'm wait until tomorrow and see how he handles his reads then. Can stay at null for right now.

Damd: I feel like you haven't done much else still. I didn't like your position yesterday, I didn't like how you criticized my reads when we get no clear indication of how yours develop, and you haven't done much to change any of that. It's like you're turning in math homework with all the answers filled in but none of the work. We have no idea how you got there. Which could be mafia driven I think but I can see lost or lazy town possibility in it aswell. Not in my immediate lynch pool but definitely in my slightly mafia bracket.

Rit can get moved into slight mafia bracket too. Missing the vote is not un-heard of but since the only vivid thing I can remember is way early in the game being mad about being a clock. If Ritz is trying to blend into the background and be ignored, doing especially well.

On August 18 2017 07:49 Eversince wrote:


But why would mafia Ritoky afk for like 50 hours, come back, no reads, not read anything, the only reason it's not some huge "I'm mafia pls lynch" is that it's completely honest and I can't imagine the mafia team that sits back and lets that happen?

Despite the fact you're throwing dirt at me I don't think your mafia either. Just no clear direction. I've got a busy schedule that I don't like to use as an excuse for absence. What else makes me mafia?

On August 19 2017 08:34 Eversince wrote:


Meanwhile, I struggle along to make senses of a thing. I feel like I'm red riding hood. I try to believe the home I came into is honorable. But the more I try to re-evaluate the more I think 'every grandma is trying to eat me! The #) of people who I want to call mafia does not = #) that can possibly be mafia... '

To verify so far though; I think this recent argument is TvT. I have reason to give you both lead. I have reason to doubt it. I think Jealous is more questionable than Conv for his response. I will specify though; I like Conv & Jealousy way more than I like Rels/Ritz for a long time. I admit openly that I need to re-read both filters (I say both because ecuses lack for Rels not to have one by now, and Rit doesn't have per 1/3 D1) I'll get to that tonight.

On August 16 2017 22:35 Conversion wrote:
I'm still leaning towards lynching FF over hopeless atm unless FF actually does something