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On August 20 2017 06:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2017 06:06 CopCake wrote:On August 20 2017 06:03 Holyflare wrote: I cannot cope with reading another things copcake writes. I'm just going to write her totally off as town and not play with her again instead. Insult me all you want, I don't care, I am not one who said "Rels is super mafia if you don't vote him you are claiming mafia" I am not scared of you. I have nothing against you. It's just clear that everything I write you either don't understand the phrasing or you do and then reply and I don't understand your phrasing. It's infuriating to even bother deciphering. So I'd rather just not have the hassle in future.
No, the problem is your attitude, even Ritoki would have to feel more frustrated, TW, etc and they never did.
Sorry to say this, but your attitude is clouding your sight.
I am trying to be polite here, your passive aggressiveness is too much to tolerate so the feeling is mutual.
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If the judges don't know what you take (Vest, cop, etc) then you can easily fake a green check as mafia to win town trust tho.
That is why I am asking EVERYONE if the judges get to know which item the winner takes.
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It is here but it doesn't explain that if the Judges know or not.
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Do the Judges know which ITEM the winner gets?
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Your misslynch was Rels ^^ please don't say that you would´t.
Last game you lied to have a Russian disease and fooled the whole town, I know you can lie, so that's it.
Like you saying Rayn is green checked by the mods and apparently he isn't now?
Who has been lying a lot lately HF? Huh?
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On August 20 2017 06:19 ritoky wrote: copcake, you think i am town right?
Yes I do via the filter analysis I did yesterday.
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On August 20 2017 06:21 Holyflare wrote: I haven't lied at any point during this game. My opinion just shifts based on new information. If I think rayn's play is that bad to make me waiver on him being mod confirmed I think that speaks volumes about rayn personally.
How is Rayn twonfirmed?
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On August 20 2017 06:25 ritoky wrote: Let's imagine that HF is mafia for this post.
HF fake claims a green check on me, who you think is town. This renders the lynch pool down to 2 as no one is lynching the green check.
In the event that Jealous is mafia and I am town in this scenario, why would a mafia HF drop the lynch pool down to 2 people when 1 of them is his partner? Why wouldn't he claim the check to clear his partner from the lynch pool and render the vote to 2 townies instead?
In that sense you have to believe that either a) HF is mafia with me and clearing me from the lynch pool via fake check or b) all 3 of us (Jealous included) were town and HF checked the 1 that was most convenient for him.
This is easy to answer (I present myself, I am cake, and I am a terrific scum creating chaos)
There are two scenarios:
HF IS SCUM or HF IS A NARCCISSISTIC PERSON
Now to answer you in the scenario HF is mafia with Jealous.
1.- HF wins items, apparently he thinks he is cleared because he has a green check on you (You are town, and i don't see that to ever change) and because "Mafia hasn't role blocked" this is wrong because as mafia: He can fake a green check on you and town will never know if they got role blocked because town never have had a power role by this time if MafiaHF is the only one who gets powers.
Now, I am Mafia HF and I see no one wants to vote you. WHAT A TERRIFIC WAY TO CLEAR MYSELF! Guys Ritoki is town!!!!!! RELS IS MAFIA BOO BOO VOTE HIM OR I WILL PUT YOU IN LYNCH PILE MUAHAHAHAHAHA
- Rels flips town.
What does HF wins with saying you are town and flipping killing rels as town?
- Rels is probably one of the only players who can read HF (I also think Damdred can too) - He wouldnt look so bad and be like "My mistake he looked scummy" and would use you as a "I GREEN CHECKED RITOKI I AM TOWN LOOK LOOK LOOK"
You would be his lifeguard here, so don't tell me that a mafia!HF is not possible.
Add the fact he also saved Jealous.
HF pretty much tried to scare people to lynch Rels over Jealous, and you, my dear nurse, are his "answer" of why he is town.
Now explain me how is it not possible that HF is mafia? You or anyone else.
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On August 20 2017 06:40 ritoky wrote: Right but what I am saying copcake, is that HF (in the 1 game ever we have been mafia together) was very risk averse unless he was forced to take risks or in a losing position. HF is in a position where he has free license to fake a green check on any player in the lynch pool. You're saying in that case he risks his partner (Jealous) leaving him in the lynch pool rather than fake a green on Jealous and ensure 100% another town death because rels or I would have died.
I don't see that as a play HF makes, that is an unnecessary risk when the alternative is literally a guaranteed townie being lynched.
Not really, not when RELS is one of the last few persons who can call out his bullshit. Notice how he immediately called scum whoever voted Jealous over rels. There is no way Jealous would have gotten lynched when TW (Considered mafia by majority) , Rels (Considered mega mafia) and Cake (Considered mafia/null/stupid living in another reality) are voting for Jealous.
Pretty much the people who voted for Jealous are the "worst" players.
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On August 20 2017 06:45 Holyflare wrote: Like it doesn't matter. I've taken medic so ritoky won't die and if I die then your wifom games will have ended and that's fine right?
If they don't kill either of us cos no balls then we'll have 2 townies ezpz.
No really, you can be mafia and kill anyone else and say "mafia didnt have balls" like you are doing here. It doesn't clear you in the slightest if they attack or not ritoki.
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On August 20 2017 06:47 Holyflare wrote: You think mafia killing not ritoky or myself is a bad thing? That would be my perfect scenario :D
Yes I do, you are the mafia here, not Ritoki in this hypothetical scenario. Why would mafia try to clear you or Ritoki? If you are town I doubt mafia would take that step. If you are mafia I can see you say "Oh mafia didnt attack me"
Tell me any movement and I can tell you how it can't clear you.
The only thing that clears someone atm is their inside game.
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On August 20 2017 06:49 Holyflare wrote: Like cake do you even scum read me? Total role reversal to everything you've said all day.
I am answering Ritoki in a HFMafia! Scenario, I think your reads are bad now tho.
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On August 20 2017 06:56 Holyflare wrote: Like you realise the judges have put one of the hardest to read players in their vote both times? I think it's quite obvious I'm town imo and clearly they do too. So it's not "kill off people that are good at reading hf" (rels isn't at all) it's simply kill people that are scummy.
I have been up twice too tho, does it make me town for you?
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Have you called me town cleared?
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But the judges have put so much effort and they have putted me twice, if they think I am town is because I am.
Even more because I don't make sense.
Let me see...
If the Judges don't think I am not town, why they put Jealous on scum pile?
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On August 20 2017 07:00 Holyflare wrote: You also haven't played with the judges for over 5 years
So? You fooled superbia last game.
You are also one of odd kills when you killed rsoultin last game.
Who was it? Koshi, HF and Rels the mafia trio right?
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On August 20 2017 07:04 Holyflare wrote: But that's my point though. I'm chronically hard to read but the fact that I've been voted twice means I'm pretty solidly town read by them. They wouldn't risk giving me powers in a game if I could just roll over it as mafia.
Let's see if in the next 3 town they pick you.
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Sarcasm, someone is triggered.
Unlike you, I don't use the judges as a way to "clear myself", nor a "green check"
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On August 20 2017 07:10 ritoky wrote: ok i have to go to the store and then wrangle children. i will try to do more solving tonight.
basically i am at
town: ritoky jealous
mostly town: copcake hf
everyone else.
i think i made a solid case for why jealous is basically always town now if any1 wants to rebutt it (yes i know i just voted on him, but fuck off). i think it being 3 town up for lynch, doesn't look good for people who didn't care about the lynch very strongly or were content...
Jelaous as mafia / HF town -
Fuck I don't think I can win the pr, everyone is starting to suspect and even daring to vote cake, fuck it seems cake can win it.
- Votes HF
Now I won Town HF trust.
Jelaous as mafia / HF mafia (in their quick topic)
Fuck people are starting to vote cake, she might win. Pls hurry up Jealous, vote for me so I can win the pr.
BOOM.
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On August 20 2017 07:12 Holyflare wrote: Please read the pages where rayn interacts with rels. I beg you. Read my prophecy and tell me rayn hasn't predetermined he's going to switch.
He never switched, he waited for rels to answer and at the end voted Jealous.
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