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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 21:15 GMT
#2701
Do the Judges know which ITEM the winner gets?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:16 GMT
#2702
I could easily fake a green check but I'd like to think I wouldn't as mafia. Not particularly a great play. I don't really think I'd even need to with the amount of people I could twist a mislynch onto this game.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:17 GMT
#2703
On August 20 2017 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 06:06 ritoky wrote:
so is it as simple as jealous flips red -> hf mafia, jealous flips green -> rayn mafia?

i might be simplifying too much.


No because I'm always town. In every scenario. I don't just randomly green check you in a lynch pool for shits and giggles to narrow it down to my partner and a random.


yeah....narrowing down the lynch pool to 2 randomly when your partner is in the lynch pool....when you could just fake green your partner out of the pool.....that is such a next level play that it probably didn't happen.

okay hf is probably town.....which means jealous is probably town for his day 1 power vote.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 21:18 GMT
#2704
Your misslynch was Rels ^^ please don't say that you would´t.

Last game you lied to have a Russian disease and fooled the whole town, I know you can lie, so that's it.

Like you saying Rayn is green checked by the mods and apparently he isn't now?

Who has been lying a lot lately HF? Huh?

ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:19 GMT
#2705
copcake, you think i am town right?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 21:20 GMT
#2706
On August 20 2017 06:19 ritoky wrote:
copcake, you think i am town right?


Yes I do via the filter analysis I did yesterday.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:21 GMT
#2707
I haven't lied at any point during this game. My opinion just shifts based on new information. If I think rayn's play is that bad to make me waiver on him being mod confirmed I think that speaks volumes about rayn personally.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:25 GMT
#2708
Let's imagine that HF is mafia for this post.

HF fake claims a green check on me, who you think is town. This renders the lynch pool down to 2 as no one is lynching the green check.

In the event that Jealous is mafia and I am town in this scenario, why would a mafia HF drop the lynch pool down to 2 people when 1 of them is his partner? Why wouldn't he claim the check to clear his partner from the lynch pool and render the vote to 2 townies instead?

In that sense you have to believe that either a) HF is mafia with me and clearing me from the lynch pool via fake check or b) all 3 of us (Jealous included) were town and HF checked the 1 that was most convenient for him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 21:25 GMT
#2709
On August 20 2017 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't lied at any point during this game. My opinion just shifts based on new information. If I think rayn's play is that bad to make me waiver on him being mod confirmed I think that speaks volumes about rayn personally.


How is Rayn twonfirmed?

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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:26 GMT
#2710
Are you trying to intentionally annoy me when I'm being civil?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:28 GMT
#2711
Like I'm trying to constructively discuss rayn and you're just dragging it down again. Stop.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:32 GMT
#2712
The thing is jealous was around and did absolutely nothing to stop his impending doom. Even when people were fighting the wagon over to him he just made a snide remark and nothing more. He looks genuinely annoyed tbh. Not really mafia-y? Am I going mad? I would think he'd at least give more of a shit about not dying as mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:33 GMT
#2713
Coupled with the giving me power thing I'm kind of forced to see him town.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:35 GMT
#2714
I got the opposite impression HF. I got the impression that he was scum who was too tentative to say shit because he felt like the slightest nudge may topple the house of cards over onto him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 21:35 GMT
#2715
On August 20 2017 06:25 ritoky wrote:
Let's imagine that HF is mafia for this post.

HF fake claims a green check on me, who you think is town. This renders the lynch pool down to 2 as no one is lynching the green check.

In the event that Jealous is mafia and I am town in this scenario, why would a mafia HF drop the lynch pool down to 2 people when 1 of them is his partner? Why wouldn't he claim the check to clear his partner from the lynch pool and render the vote to 2 townies instead?

In that sense you have to believe that either a) HF is mafia with me and clearing me from the lynch pool via fake check or b) all 3 of us (Jealous included) were town and HF checked the 1 that was most convenient for him.


This is easy to answer (I present myself, I am cake, and I am a terrific scum creating chaos)

There are two scenarios:

HF IS SCUM or HF IS A NARCCISSISTIC PERSON

Now to answer you in the scenario HF is mafia with Jealous.

1.- HF wins items, apparently he thinks he is cleared because he has a green check on you (You are town, and i don't see that to ever change) and because "Mafia hasn't role blocked" this is wrong because as mafia: He can fake a green check on you and town will never know if they got role blocked because town never have had a power role by this time if MafiaHF is the only one who gets powers.

Now, I am Mafia HF and I see no one wants to vote you. WHAT A TERRIFIC WAY TO CLEAR MYSELF! Guys Ritoki is town!!!!!! RELS IS MAFIA BOO BOO VOTE HIM OR I WILL PUT YOU IN LYNCH PILE MUAHAHAHAHAHA

- Rels flips town.

What does HF wins with saying you are town and flipping killing rels as town?

- Rels is probably one of the only players who can read HF (I also think Damdred can too)
- He wouldnt look so bad and be like "My mistake he looked scummy" and would use you as a "I GREEN CHECKED RITOKI I AM TOWN LOOK LOOK LOOK"

You would be his lifeguard here, so don't tell me that a mafia!HF is not possible.

Add the fact he also saved Jealous.

HF pretty much tried to scare people to lynch Rels over Jealous, and you, my dear nurse, are his "answer" of why he is town.

Now explain me how is it not possible that HF is mafia? You or anyone else.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:40 GMT
#2716
When I subscribe to that world I have to look into:

A) people that's didn't give a shit about either wagon
B) people intentionally driving confusion

People that didn't particularly care: geript/eversince

People spreading confusion: tumblewood/rayn/conversion

Conversion is an odd fellow. If you read today you'd see a shit fest between himseld and jealous and just outright calling him mafia but he ends up on rels and doesn't say much more about anything after that. If they're both town then that's the ideal strat. Leaves both wagons open.

Rayn confusion 101 in that he had 0 reason to not vote rels. He was setting up to switch off rels before rels even posted. I even prophesied that he was going to vote jealous and he did. His whole interaction with myself/rels is so bogus.

Tumblewood just posted nonsense about mechanics and questioning why I'm not dead and other drivel? Dude doesn't give a shit about this game but still pretends to be invested.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:40 GMT
#2717
Right but what I am saying copcake, is that HF (in the 1 game ever we have been mafia together) was very risk averse unless he was forced to take risks or in a losing position. HF is in a position where he has free license to fake a green check on any player in the lynch pool. You're saying in that case he risks his partner (Jealous) leaving him in the lynch pool rather than fake a green on Jealous and ensure 100% another town death because rels or I would have died.

I don't see that as a play HF makes, that is an unnecessary risk when the alternative is literally a guaranteed townie being lynched.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:43 GMT
#2718
I am probably the most risk adverse mafia strategist there is.

I also had free rein to kill absolutely anyone in the game and I sure as shit wouldn't pick damdred.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 21:44 GMT
#2719
On August 20 2017 06:40 ritoky wrote:
Right but what I am saying copcake, is that HF (in the 1 game ever we have been mafia together) was very risk averse unless he was forced to take risks or in a losing position. HF is in a position where he has free license to fake a green check on any player in the lynch pool. You're saying in that case he risks his partner (Jealous) leaving him in the lynch pool rather than fake a green on Jealous and ensure 100% another town death because rels or I would have died.

I don't see that as a play HF makes, that is an unnecessary risk when the alternative is literally a guaranteed townie being lynched.


Not really, not when RELS is one of the last few persons who can call out his bullshit. Notice how he immediately called scum whoever voted Jealous over rels. There is no way Jealous would have gotten lynched when TW (Considered mafia by majority) , Rels (Considered mega mafia) and Cake (Considered mafia/null/stupid living in another reality) are voting for Jealous.

Pretty much the people who voted for Jealous are the "worst" players.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 21:45 GMT
#2720
Like it doesn't matter. I've taken medic so ritoky won't die and if I die then your wifom games will have ended and that's fine right?

If they don't kill either of us cos no balls then we'll have 2 townies ezpz.
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